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Old 19-02-2005, 17:30   #31

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Old 19-02-2005, 17:30   #32

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Sheva grave: frattura di zigomo ed orbita occipitale
19 02 2005

Si tratta di frattura dello zigomo e dell'orbita occipitale e dovrà essere operato lunedì per la riduzione del trauma. Il giocatore non sarà disponibile per il match di mercoledì di Champions League contro il Manchester United.

Sheva is out against ManUtd. But that doesn't matter.
But we'll still win, if carlo gets his sh*t right once and for all....
if sheva doesn't play then we HAVE to use a 4-3-2-1 formation. 2 strikers is not going to work if neither come back to get the ball. i can see crespo trying to move back only during the last minutes of the game. IMO that is not good enough, but then again man u shouldn't be playing like caligari.
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Old 19-02-2005, 17:31   #33
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I'm still pretty sure that Sheva will play, we just have to wait and see...
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Old 19-02-2005, 17:34   #34

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Sheva out deosn't really matter.
We have:
Seedorf...best CM in the world
Dhorasoo...according to L'Equipe ratings best player in French league last season
Kaka...world class Brazil starter
Serginho...imho still our most naturally gifted play in the team. Classy winger.
Rui Costa...whowas once Serie A's best midfielder and is still good if given confidence and some backing by the coach. Just look how he played for Portugal.

But then...you can have a coach, that despite having such a luxury midfield still fu*ks it all up by playing a wrong lineup. Thanks god Carlo made the right substitutions and we played like Milan in the end....despite 10 men.
So we should do against ManUtd. If we play Tomasson-Crespo, we are w/o CL football after wednesday.
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Old 19-02-2005, 17:39   #35
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Bayman real football is not like "Football Manager" on your computer, u can't say "Sheva is out but it doesn't matter", because it's very "matter". Didn't u see what happened today???? In the minute Sheva went out we like lost 70 percent of attacking force... Stop living in your theoretical world, u want to face Man Unt with players like Dhorasoo or Serginho??? They have players like Rooney, RvN, Scholes, Keane, Ronaldo, Giggs.... or maybe u forgot that??????
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Old 19-02-2005, 17:41   #36

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Unfortunately i got to see only Messina - Dopentus match, and i have to say.....BORING! This year Juve indeed play the most boring football i have ever seen,even against Messina who are, in all honesty at times quite interesting to watch because of their `fighter character`.But, a draw is a draw....and both Inter and Juve....it couldn`t be better!!

However,back to the topic....I`m simply delighted,this was our chance, we used it,simple as that.I hope to see some highlights,it seems to have been a good game.
Bad news about Sheva though. Nonetheless, i think we still have pretty good chances to win ManU match.FORZA MILAN!
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Old 19-02-2005, 17:42   #37

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Bayman real football is not like "Football Manager" on your computer, u can't say "Sheva is out but it doesn't matter", because it's very "matter". Didn't u see what happened today???? In the minute Sheva went out we like lost 70 percent of attacking force... Stop living in your theoretical world, u want to face Man Unt with players like Dhorasoo or Serginho??? They have players like Rooney, RvN, Scholes, Keane, Ronaldo, Giggs.... or maybe u forgot that??????

I agree we really need Shevchenko but Dhorasoo and Serginho match it with many Man U players so don't under-estimate them.

Dhorasoo deserves more of a chance !!
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Old 19-02-2005, 17:43   #38

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manUtd grabbed 41 out of 44 points w/o RVN. So what?
If we are unable to play football w/o our main striker then Carlo/Galliani is to blame for bargaining when they shouldn't or fielding a completely wrong lineup.
A team having by far the highest wage bill in Europe (165m€) I can expect fielding a very competitive lineup despite Sheva's absence.
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woww, what an incredible day! who would have thought that milan and udinese both scored a last minute goal!! i hope thats a good sign! I agree we should play with 1 striker vs man utd if sheva is unavailable! milan didnt play attractive football recently and man utd just keep winning convincingly! we need 5 midfielders to neutralise good manutd midfielders. i believe we have to score at least a goal at old trafford as manutd is in top form at the moment!

forza milan!! probably this is the first time that we are on top of juve this season! great!!!
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Sheva out deosn't really matter.
We have:
Seedorf...best CM in the world
Dhorasoo...according to L'Equipe ratings best player in French league last season
Kaka...world class Brazil starter
Serginho...imho still our most naturally gifted play in the team. Classy winger.
Rui Costa...whowas once Serie A's best midfielder and is still good if given confidence and some backing by the coach. Just look how he played for Portugal.

But then...you can have a coach, that despite having such a luxury midfield still fu*ks it all up by playing a wrong lineup. Thanks god Carlo made the right substitutions and we played like Milan in the end....despite 10 men.
So we should do against ManUtd. If we play Tomasson-Crespo, we are w/o CL football after wednesday.
If there is one thing called "Ungraciousness", you see a classic example here.

Also, if you have heard another phrase called "Emotion speaks louder than logic", you have another classic example here.

Lastly, if you don't understand what I am saying, then go to the "Hall of Fame" and look at the number of trophies we have won under this, hmm..
"f*cking coach"...

And you still don't understand, then probably your emotion speaks so loudly that your logic has gone.
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manUtd grabbed 41 out of 44 points w/o RVN. So what?
And they are still trailing Chelsea by 9 points = 3 games whereas Milan has cut down the deficit from 8 points (2.5 games) to 0 point (tie).

Now tell me, so what?
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Old 19-02-2005, 17:49   #42

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Yeah, Sheva seems to have taken a pretty violent blow to the head. The first reports are that he will miss not only Man U but the derby too. Hopefully the initial diagnosis for fractured cheek bone and orbit are wrong otherwise we will be lucky if he misses "only" the 1st ManU game and the Milan derby.
Anyway, I would also prefer a 1-forward Milan in the game at Old Trafford. I would leave Rui out, however, for we DO NEED away goals and he will only slow us down. I would rather have Dhorasoo in there and maybe Serginio in the second half. The ideal variant would be having the Concord from the start but Sergio is getting old and he can't sustain playing like that for the whole game.
I think we need to be patient in that game - close down ManU in midfield and take them at the back with swift counters using Crespo, Kaka, Dhorasoo or maybe Sergio. That's my view on a game w/o Sheva in the line-up.

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Old 19-02-2005, 17:50   #43

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I didn't say "fuc*ing" coach, as he thanks god did the right things in the end.
The 2 striker thing came from Berlusconi.
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If we are unable to play football w/o our main striker then Carlo/Galliani is to blame for bargaining when they shouldn't or fielding a completely wrong lineup.
I didn't say "unable to play", i just said "playing much weaker"... Very big part of our game-play is built on Sheva, like Ronaldinho at Barca. And money isn't the most important thing, Milan can spend 50-60 millions dollars and still not to find a proper substitution for Sheva. Just like I told u it's not a "fifa2004" or "football manager" on your pc, Sheva is a big part of our team this last 6 years, and his contribution to our game is irreplaceabe.

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Old 19-02-2005, 17:54   #45

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It's not about substituting Sheva, I think in a one striker system Crespo can do a good enough job.
Chelsea have a load of duds as strikers, but classy midfielder in quantity. We have them too but barely play them.
And Barca had their best run when R10 was off form, same goas for inter w/o Adriano. No team depends on one player.
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