what happened tonight???? CL FINAL

Originally Posted by dabdob

You can't blame Dudek, because you have to blame Dida two years ago for the same act against Montero.

Sheva was unlucky tonight. I agree. I hope this won't affect his future play

Dida was not THAT far off the line, Dudek was 3 or 4 meters out, totally unacceptable.

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Ancelloti lacked the balls to substitute sheva instead of crespo. Crespo scored 2 goals, he palyed really well, why u substitute him?!?!?
Ancelloti didnt know how to close the games. ITs sad to say but with capello or lippi that would never happen. We need to rejuventate the team also bot drastically but in some positions i think aimar and samuel would be good additions to our squad. We can say goodbye to tomasson and rui costa i guess...

Originally Posted by lolofernandez

Ancelloti lacked the balls to substitute sheva instead of crespo. Crespo scored 2 goals, he palyed really well, why u substitute him?!?!?
Ancelloti didnt know how to close the games. ITs sad to say but with capello or lippi that would never happen. We need to rejuventate the team also bot drastically but in some positions i think aimar and samuel would be good additions to our squad. We can say goodbye to tomasson and rui costa i guess...

if he subbed sheva, he would be shot by berlusconi, the milan mafia, this forum and galliani would hire a hitman to assasinate carlo.

Originally Posted by dabdob

You can't blame Dudek, because you have to blame Dida two years ago for the same act against Montero.

I disagree. Dida took two steps in that shot...in this one Dudek took FOUR steps before Pirlo's foot touched the ball: totally unaccepatable.

Liverpool showed heart, perseverance and character but Sheva's ONSIDE goal; the inexistent penalty shot all helped them truimph. The ref seemed to be caught up in the momentum and failed to see the Pool player take a dive on Gattuso's touch.

No excuse for letting go of a three goal lead especially after DOMINATING the first half...however, in extra time Milan really pushed hard and cannot be accused for standing back.

Nevertheless....as dark as this day is ...


FORZA MILAN

..forever

CRESPO: 'Too beautiful to be true'
5/26/2005
ISTANBUL - Hernan Crespo, who scored an useless double, said: ’It was too much. It was too beautiful to be true. It is hard, but this is football. Three-nil at half time, with me scoring two goals. I repeat... it was too beautiful to be good. I cannot understand how it happened, I cannot find a reason, however we will try again next season, we will take our revenge. Liverpool did very well, they also risked much, but when things must go the wrong way in football, they just do it. We had many chances, it went like this, the save on Sheva was incredible at the end, but we gave our best. I congratulate them.'

Originally Posted by Nadir

if he subbed sheva, he would be shot by berlusconi, the milan mafia, this forum and galliani would hire a hitman to assasinate carlo.

I think this is another one of milans big problems. maybe not so much the "mafia" part but the Berlusconi part, he needs to shut his mouth, I think his demeanor undermines the coach. ok he wants a flat back 4 and 2 strikers, it's his club, he can decide that, but to constantly threaten and moan is unacceptable.

the other problem is our complete inability to respect the opposition when we think we've done enough. we should have been out there working our socks off to make it to 65-70mins without conceding knowing that by then liverpool would be dejected and lost, instead we came out and messed about and hoped liverpool wouldn't bother trying to hard.

p.s what is it about english teams and ****e flukey wins in the CL?

I do think attitude was the problem, but I can't say it was due to overconfidence. In fact, to me it seemed more a lack of confidence.

I hate to say it, but since previous encounters, of which the Depor match is at the helm, the players seem to lose confidence if a team has a slight hope of getting back into a match in which we are dominating.

The final was no difference, Gerrard was left unmarked for the first goal. At this point, the players should have composed themselves, taken note of the situation and realised that Liverpool would attempt to apply great pressure. Instead, it seemed the players went into a state of panic and lost control of not only the game and possession, but also tactical awareness and positioning, which allowed Liverpool space in front of our defence. Then, once Liverpool level things up, the players were put under so much pressure that they were forced to attempt to dominate the match and control precedings, which they once again began to do, stopping Liverpool completely.

To deal with this problem, firstly the players must at all times make sure that there are never any lapses in concentration in the side. If the opposition score, then the side must regain its composure and shape as soon as they kick off, to prevent the opposition from taking advantage of our vunerability at the time.

I think the most important element needed above all atm in this Milan squad is growth in confidence and mentality to deal with pressure. Since Depor, we seem to have gotten weaker at dealing with such problems, which results in us struggling against pressure.

i cant sleep at all, im still shocked from the defeat it was like fate made sure we didnt win, this is the hardest defeat i must accept. But the refs decisions were dubious, especially the linesman not letting shevas goal stand. The one thing i can not understand though is why did ancelottie not change his tactics when we clearly saw liverpool put 6 men in their miffield second half. Surly we should of gone to a 4-5-1 formation. to help us out, but im still in desbelief what happened tonight

Sometimes u have to substitute ur franchise player. I love sheva but it wasnt his night, just as simple as that. Why Ancelloti sacrifice crespo on the last 30 minutes of the most improtant game? why he didnt play against juve either? he is one of the best centre foward of football and the only one who adapts his style to shevas's.

Do milan have to change coach for next season? i dunno. right now i will fire him but thats because im angry. Carlo needs to fix the mentality of the team, quite frankly thats our weakest point right now.

One question. Why the hell italians sides doesnt know how to ****ing shoot a pk??? the same thing happen on 1994-98 world cups, intercontinental, etc. Its not possible that we lack character to shoot PKs. On this instances shoot in the middle with eyes closed with all ur heart, kill the mofo for god sake!!!

Originally Posted by lolofernandez

Sometimes u have to substitute ur franchise player. I love sheva but it wasnt his night, just as simple as that. Why Ancelloti sacrifice crespo on the last 30 minutes of the most improtant game? why he didnt play against juve either? he is one of the best centre foward of football and the only one who adapts his style to shevas's.

Do milan have to change coach for next season? i dunno. right now i will fire him but thats because im angry. Carlo needs to fix the mentality of the team, quite frankly thats our weakest point right now.

One question. Why the hell italians sides doesnt know how to ****ing shoot a pk??? the same thing happen on 1994-98 world cups, intercontinental, etc. Its not possible that we lack character to shoot PKs. On this instances shoot in the middle with eyes closed with all ur heart, kill the mofo for god sake!!!

yah. why jdt instead of crespo against juve. i heard he was injured but who knows. right now, who cares. it's all over. will anyone even care about the game against udinese?

he left a hungry pippo inzaghi on the stands. IF inzaghi was on the bench and he came on instead of tomasson i tell you this now, the moral of milan would have been lifted, pippo is one of those players who gets the team going

A lapse which was capitalised on! To our defeat. We need to pick ourselves up from this, and move forward as a team. We know where we are going wrong, and where we are so strong. We played to our best and worse tonight. Despite being disappointed, I'm proud. Dudek needs a slap for being off his line tho, why are referees so quick to give penalties, and slow on issues just as important? But that's football, the beautiful game at it's best.

i can accept 1 goal being conceded. i can accept 2 goals being conceded. heck i can even accept 3 goals being conceded - but i can't accept 3 goals being conceded in 6 minutes!!!