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zlatanov · 26-05-2005, 13:30

Unlike Vogel, Dhorasoo seems to be lacking in tactical awareness/discipline and this is probably the main reason why he never got Carlo to fully trust him. I fully agree with VMK on Vogel.

mk18 · 26-05-2005, 14:32

dhorasoo seemed to get the nod ahead of gattuso/seedorf up until his injury

vickirin · 26-05-2005, 14:49

I think he could play in the place of cafu or rino so I guess brocchi will leave

almilan · 26-05-2005, 15:00

surprised at this signing, he is very similar to ambroisini but not as good in my opinion. hope dhorasso is not sacrificed

shevagol_7 · 26-05-2005, 15:08

This signing really took me by surprise. He could be a natural substitute for Gattuso and Ambrosini could be Seedorf's (Ambro is much more creative than given credit for).

ACMILAN1983 · 26-05-2005, 15:15

Surprising signing at first glance but with some thought its quite a logical one. Firstly, Vogel will provide fair cover in midfield in helping when the pressure is on.

Brocchi is a strong candidate to leave and I believe Vogel will take his place on the bench.

Welcome to Vogel

Xudong · 26-05-2005, 15:37

How many players were from Switzerland in our history? That is an interesting question.

Honestly, I don't know anything about him. But being free is so good, especially when we are trying to save up for some other spectacular projects.

Franco6 · 26-05-2005, 17:10

I don't know.... let give this guy sometime to settle, I had doubts on Dhorasoo as well, but he proved me wrong.

However today I'm too destroyed to talk on new signinings

mrki · 26-05-2005, 17:57

I dont think carlo will play him often, but then whats the point of getting players when you dont let them play....
It seems that galliani and berlusconi have too much influence on our manager, its bad for the team and carlo too. He should make his own team and dont let silvio tels him what to do, if he has no results his way-by,by.
About Vogel, i dont believe he is better that dhorasso or ambro. But he is free soo.... Thing is that we need anothe classy CM. Not ronaldinho or gerrard but someone like...essien or rothen. Seedorf seems to be falling down, and rui is not getting any younger.

ac_milan_foreva · 26-05-2005, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by sf_esq

Vogel? I hope this isn't a sign of things to come. We need difference makers, not bench players. Carlo won't play Dhorasoo, who is better IMHO, so why would he play this guy?

he is for free.. FREEEE i mean what do we have to loose?

ac_milan_foreva · 26-05-2005, 18:24

oh and here is a link to what i consider the most realible source...
http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/may26i.html

meazza · 26-05-2005, 20:09

more free's

. all this achieves is we have to put one of Seedorf, Pirlo or Gattuso on the bench to play him and because that seems to ludicrous to do for some swiss player, he gets benched every game. We need someone who will allow us to rotate the midfield.

mk18 · 26-05-2005, 20:26

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Originally Posted by mrki

I dont think carlo will play him often, but then whats the point of getting players when you dont let them play....
It seems that galliani and berlusconi have too much influence on our manager, its bad for the team and carlo too. He should make his own team and dont let silvio tels him what to do, if he has no results his way-by,by.
About Vogel, i dont believe he is better that dhorasso or ambro. But he is free soo.... Thing is that we need anothe classy CM. Not ronaldinho or gerrard but someone like...essien or rothen. Seedorf seems to be falling down, and rui is not getting any younger.

rothen is no CM man

rothen is as left wingerish as it can get

ARIO · 27-05-2005, 00:01

We are gonna use Vogel in a deal for Massimo Oddo with Lazio....
Vogel was being linked with Lazio for a long time....
so that's my point of view....Logical enough??

MATNAT · 27-05-2005, 00:17

if vogel stays hell be good.

i remember him from euro 96 against england and he looked really good fro one so young.

however if he is a make weight for oddo still good business, although we still could do with another vogel like player to provide cover for ambrosini and gattuso

26-05-2005, 14:49	#33
vickirin Registered User Join Date: 11 2001 Location: the den Fave Players: Franco Baresi, Marco Van Basten, Paolo Maldini, Demetrio Albertini	I think he could play in the place of cafu or rino so I guess brocchi will leave __________________ We miss you Franco !! We miss you Demetrio !!

26-05-2005, 15:08	#35
shevagol_7 Registered User Join Date: 12 2004 Location: Canada Fave Players: Sheva, Maldini, Kaka'	This signing really took me by surprise. He could be a natural substitute for Gattuso and Ambrosini could be Seedorf's (Ambro is much more creative than given credit for). __________________ FORZA ROSSONERI!!!!!!

26-05-2005, 15:37	#37
Xudong Registered User Join Date: 10 2000 Location: U.S.	How many players were from Switzerland in our history? That is an interesting question. Honestly, I don't know anything about him. But being free is so good, especially when we are trying to save up for some other spectacular projects. __________________ FORZA MILAN

26-05-2005, 17:10	#38
Franco6 Registered User Join Date: 11 2004 Location: Malta Fave Players: Van Basten Baresi Maldini Gattuso Nesta	I don't know.... let give this guy sometime to settle, I had doubts on Dhorasoo as well, but he proved me wrong. However today I'm too destroyed to talk on new signinings __________________ CAMPIONI D'EUROPA No.7

26-05-2005, 18:24	#41
ac_milan_foreva Registered User Join Date: 01 2005 Location: Chicago, USA, but born in Bulgaria Fave Players: Sheva, Pirlo, Gattuso, Nesta, Maldini, Bojinov,	oh and here is a link to what i consider the most realible source... http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/may26i.html __________________

26-05-2005, 13:30	#31
zlatanov Moderator Join Date: 07 2003 Location: Nowhere near San Siro :( Fave Players: Zinedine Zidane, Genarro Gattuso, Alessandro Nesta	Unlike Vogel, Dhorasoo seems to be lacking in tactical awareness/discipline and this is probably the main reason why he never got Carlo to fully trust him. I fully agree with VMK on Vogel.

26-05-2005, 14:32	#32
mk18 BANNED! Join Date: 09 2004 Location: amman, JORDAN Fave Players: maldini, sheva, baggio, weah, mvb, cruyff	dhorasoo seemed to get the nod ahead of gattuso/seedorf up until his injury

26-05-2005, 15:00	#34
almilan Registered User Join Date: 07 2004 Location: Ireland Fave Players: Maldini, Baresi, Gullit, Shevchenko, Kaka	surprised at this signing, he is very similar to ambroisini but not as good in my opinion. hope dhorasso is not sacrificed

26-05-2005, 15:15	#36
ACMILAN1983 Registered User Join Date: 01 2004 Location: England Fave Players: Maldini, Pirlo and rest of Milan	Surprising signing at first glance but with some thought its quite a logical one. Firstly, Vogel will provide fair cover in midfield in helping when the pressure is on. Brocchi is a strong candidate to leave and I believe Vogel will take his place on the bench. Welcome to Vogel

26-05-2005, 17:57	#39
mrki Registered User Join Date: 04 2005 Location: Croatia Fave Players: Maldini, Boban, Inzaghi	I dont think carlo will play him often, but then whats the point of getting players when you dont let them play.... It seems that galliani and berlusconi have too much influence on our manager, its bad for the team and carlo too. He should make his own team and dont let silvio tels him what to do, if he has no results his way-by,by. About Vogel, i dont believe he is better that dhorasso or ambro. But he is free soo.... Thing is that we need anothe classy CM. Not ronaldinho or gerrard but someone like...essien or rothen. Seedorf seems to be falling down, and rui is not getting any younger.

26-05-2005, 20:09	#42
meazza Registered User Join Date: 03 2001 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Fave Players: maldini	more free's . all this achieves is we have to put one of Seedorf, Pirlo or Gattuso on the bench to play him and because that seems to ludicrous to do for some swiss player, he gets benched every game. We need someone who will allow us to rotate the midfield. __________________ I've had Delia Smith.

27-05-2005, 00:01	#44
ARIO Registered User Join Date: 06 2000 Location: Indonesia Fave Players: The divine swan himself : MARCO VAN BASTEN!!!!	We are gonna use Vogel in a deal for Massimo Oddo with Lazio.... Vogel was being linked with Lazio for a long time.... so that's my point of view....Logical enough?? __________________ A Milan con Affetto..... F O R Z A M I L A N - 2011/2012MARCHETTI;Abate,DAVID LUIZ,ASTORI,Vila;Thiago Silva;Flamini,Pirlo;Robinho;Pato,Ibrahimovic

27-05-2005, 00:17	#45
MATNAT Registered User Join Date: 05 2005 Location: Playboy Mansion Fave Players: Miss July	if vogel stays hell be good. i remember him from euro 96 against england and he looked really good fro one so young. however if he is a make weight for oddo still good business, although we still could do with another vogel like player to provide cover for ambrosini and gattuso

zlatanov

mk18

vickirin

almilan

shevagol_7

ACMILAN1983

Xudong

Franco6

mrki

ac_milan_foreva

ac_milan_foreva

meazza

mk18

ARIO

MATNAT