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Old 25-08-2005, 10:06   #31

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Old 25-08-2005, 10:10   #32

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Our group looks like this:

Milan
PSV Eindhoven
Schalke 04
Fenerbahce

Looks to be a pretty tough group at first glance. But this is definetly an easier group than what we had last year. PSV have been weakend considerably losing most of there best players. Vogel will be able to play against his former club. Schalke are no longer the power they were in Germany we should be able to beat them. Fenerbahce are Turkish champions thats pretty well all I know of them.

But Milan should be able to top this group no problem.
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Old 25-08-2005, 10:12   #33

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......and Fenerbahce

not bad, quite good indeed.
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Old 25-08-2005, 10:22   #34

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I am still at a complete loss as to how Man U ALWAYS gets an easy group!

But to return to Milan...not a bad situation for us at all...PSV are worrysome, but as has been said, they have lost their best players, but to me still represent the toughest of all our group opponents, though none can be taken lightly.

We are Milan however, and I fear NO team. Memba dat!
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Old 25-08-2005, 10:24   #35

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I believe this is the toughest group ; however, we will rise to the top.
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Old 25-08-2005, 10:26   #36

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I am still at a complete loss as to how Man U ALWAYS gets an easy group! :dontkn:

But to return to Milan...not a bad situation for us at all...PSV are worrysome, but as has been said, they have lost their best players, but to me still represent the toughest of all our group opponents, though none can be taken lightly.

We are Milan however, and I fear NO team. Memba dat!
Warro bantan i echo your comments, Manyoo and madrid always get easy groups.
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Old 25-08-2005, 11:15   #37

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If ManU has an easy group, how about arsenal?
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Old 25-08-2005, 11:47   #38

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Our group looks like this:

Milan
PSV Eindhoven
Schalke 04
Fenerbahce

Schalke are no longer the power they were in Germany
Wha What? Schalke are going to have an even better team this year then they had last year when they went blow for blow with Bayern and finished 2nd in the Bundesliga . . They have picked up a couple of players that will make a difference. I am not saying they will beat Milan, however they are by no means a push over and I think they are equal to or possibly better then PSV. Schalke is a team you need to be on the lookout for.

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Old 25-08-2005, 12:30   #39

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I think this is a fairly decent group - in CL football there are no easy opponents but this for sure isn't that difficult of a group. My point is, if we can't get through this group, then we'd better watch CL foorball on TV, at least that way we will save ourselves any further embarrassment.
Our opponents are pretty ballanced, I would say, but none of these teams is even close to our level. I beleive that Milan will take 1st place but the battle for 2nd will be a ferocious one. PSV aren't the team from last year for they have lost some crucial players plus, I believe that it was physical and psychological tiredness that made us look like amateurs in that game in Eindhoven. I would expect Milan to cope with PSV much more easily this time around.
As for Schalke, they are the team I expect to give us a battle and I would expect them to take second spot. They are a very good team and play some very nice football, physically tough too, but deffinitely lack experience at this level and tend to get some rediculously easy goals.
Fenerbahce would fill in the numbers, IMO - they are not the team they used to be 3-4 years ago. I am sure they will make us work but so would any other team in this CL. I wouldn't expect anything special from them.
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Old 25-08-2005, 13:21   #40

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Warro bantan i echo your comments, Manyoo and madrid always get easy groups.
Its not actually that hard to work out why, teams in pot 1 will usually be better than their opponents

Looking at it i dont think any group is particularly hard, only Barca and Inters groups are hard to pick the top 2, and only then because its hard to pick 2nd and 3rd place apart.
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Old 25-08-2005, 16:02   #41

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well, seems like we know who we face for the first half of this year in Europe. Though I'm not going to complain, I do consider it a fairly tough group, with all the teams having certain qualities to be a threat.

Shalke as has been said are a very solid side and are looking strong. Fenerbache aren't brilliant (for example, personally I prefer them to getting Betis), but are a tough nut to crack and will probably be quite energetic for our matches. Add to this that we'll be returning to Instanbul in a more imposing atmosphere compared to the final last year and suddenly it could become a psychological issue. On the other hand, we get something positive from Instanbul and it could benefit our players from a mental perspective.

PSV are a tough one to call. They have lost some good (important) players for the new season and on paper aren't as strong as last year. However, they still have what I consider to be their biggest threat, which is Hiddink. Tactically, he completely tore us apart last year in the semis and with his mind behind proceedings, PSV can't be taken lightly.

I think the Shalke coach could well be right that this is possibly the hardest group of them all and I have read our group is being referred to as the group of death.

However, in the end I have nothing more to say about the draw than WE MUST WIN!

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Old 25-08-2005, 16:41   #42

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I reckon this year we wont have as much trouble with PSV as we did last year since they have lost some of their best players. The games that really worry me are the away games in Germany and Turkey. Shalke in their home ground will definitely be tough to crack. Real Madrid seem to have the easiest draw of all.
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Old 25-08-2005, 17:01   #43

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I actually wouldn't mind have two giant teams and two less significant sides in our group. As the top two could advance, that ain't so bad, as the other team will definitely help killing off the other two teams and make them give up as early as possible. (Like last year, Barcelona and us, after two rounds, the standings are like 6-6-0-0. ) How was that? What's a plus, is that we could have the chance to view them live on TV here in United States. I doubt they will do that in this year for us.

This current group has three other teams tangled with each other. Morale could be unusally high for them until the last moment as every team has a fairly good chance to qualify. and you never know what could happen against some Turkish team or German team. Last time, we were paired up with a Turkish team and German team, we bottomed the group.

I hope they will take a correct attitude, which is: give up against Milan, and try to bite each other to death.

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Old 25-08-2005, 18:37   #44

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Hey, I am a Fenerbahce fan and as I can see, you don't have much of information about us. Well, Fenerbahce is the Champions of Turkey for the last two years and last year we had the group like this

ManU
Lyon
Sparta Prag
Fenerbahce

Well, we had 9 points, 3rd place and went to UEFA cup. Lyon had 11, Manu had 10, or just opposite... I don't wanna remember about UEFA cup at all. I think this is a though group, and there will be a lot of draws, believe me. Lokks like PSV lost power, they still have Hiddink. Schalke will be though for us, even though I believe Turkish people in Germany will be filling up more than half of the stadium. You also better start worrying about them. For us, it's better to play in Milan on the first day, since Serie A did not start yet. I hope you guys are not yet prepared enough. Sorry, I am devoted to my team, even though I like Milan also. Well, talking about our team, let me tell you about some of the players you may know about. Our goalkeeper is Rustu, also the goalkeeper from Turkish National team. He is our goalkeeper for I don't know how many years, like centuries? He went to Barcelona, but he did not do well and looks like he had some problems with Rijkaard and he is back. Last year January we transferred Anelka, though he was injured at the beginning of the season, it looks like he will start playing from this week on. For the free-kicks, watch Alex de Souza, the Brazilian. Maybe you know Tuncay from our National team, he is fast like the wind. He is technically not very good, but he always is good at CL. (Ask ManU about his hat trick against them) We now have 4 brazilians (Alex, Nobre, Luciano, Aurelio) and our brand new transfer, Appiah from Juve. (I think you know about him) Hope you win against Schale and PSV.
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Old 25-08-2005, 18:43   #45

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Thank you for the information, Abyss. And welcome to MM.

I didn't really want your team in our group. Well, maybe we can qualify together.
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