Milan-Sampdoria

Our title hopes have now dealt a major blow. I still want to remain optimistic, but it is getting harder, in addition, it does not seem like Juve is going to have any dip in form anytime soon... However, I have started to lose my confidence on Carletto as well, even though I have always trusted him till today I really hope Milan can bounce back in style and Ancelotti can prove me wrong

Hmmm... I was thinking about something: why the 'shinny happy people' of the forum, the 'everything is fine / nothing is wrong' section of the pack, didn't appear to express their opinions today...?

Originally Posted by GRE-NO-LI

Hmmm... I was thinking about something: why the 'shinny happy people' of the forum, the 'everything is fine / nothing is wrong' section of the pack, didn't appear to express their opinions today...?

Oh well, I tired to tell you that several times but I guess it didn't go through - you and your posts are just plain irritating with your constant whining about things that, one way or the other, DO NOT depend on you or anyone else in this forum. And I honestly don't know how long is it gonna take you to realize that calling for multimillion $$$$ transers and mentioning the names of at least 50 players so far is not gonna change the fact that Milan's transfer policy is so very different than what you, in your perfect pink and dreamy world, would like it to be. Now that's what I meant by telling you that live in CM world and you need to get down to the real one as soon as possible - the sooner you make that transition, the better for you ... and I guess for everyone else here, as well, 'cause we won't have to make herculean efforts to look away as soon as we see your trademark - a whiny, pessimistic post that has zero effect on REAL things.
Oh, and btw, by constantly adding new and new faces to your "must buy" list of players, you are just showing that you have no clear idea what the team needs and how this difficult moment can be overcome as you are just shooting blanks in the dark, hoping that you hit something. Well, my friend, the only thing you are hitting is that thin air in that CM world you live in.
And to answer your question - I don't think that anyone here is blind to the necesity for changes, it's just that those people you refered to above are more realistic in their views. And when they will come to post their opinions? Well, I think a good guess would be - as soon as you stop irritating the hell out of them, I am sure they might find some enjoyment in visiting this forum yet again and giving their opinions. Until then why should come here at all - read posts by heavily depresed people going through yet another one of their "it's the end of the world" moods? See that 15 out of 20 posts in every single active thread come from a person, who lives his life on the right side of Zero? Where's the fun in that?
Ciao e a presto.

couldnt have said it better myself! we are getting through this and keep having faith, anything can happen, there is still time..

have faith my beloved Milanistas!

zlatanov chill man.

now to talk about the game which is really what this thread is for. I think gila played a great game, and i wish that he started. Dida is really disappointing lately (maybe he is missing his homeland and wants us to do to him as we did after the leeds game).

Originally Posted by zlatanov

a whiny, pessimistic post that has zero effect on REAL things.

And of course your pathetic, conformist and deeply UNrrealistic posture have extraordinary effects on reality... by the way, you certainly think that we've performed superbly against Sampdoria, that crappy talk "oh, that draw was only a matter of bad luck, guys, everything is fine, our team is unbeatable"... come on, give me a break, Zlatanov!!! And if I don't have a clear idea of what do, if I'm 'lost in the dark', the same tag can be applied to Carlo, Galliani and Braida, all of them totally clueless of what to do! But there's a big difference, buddy: I'm a simple fan, so it doesn't matter if I'm lost, but the fact that our board is completely without ideas to revert that bad state of things is definitely terrible!

And I don't live at all on CM world, or on a pink world, or on whatever kind of **** your lunacy could figure out. Who lives in an unreal world is YOUR kind of fan, the 'everything is fine' lot of mindless dumbs.

BTW: Getting 'lost in the dark' or no, I want ALLWAYS the best for my beloved AC Milan, unlike the 'shiny happy people' folks, who are conformed with any kind of things!

I don't know what went wrong,the whole team just looked tired. And I want to talk about Gattuso again... every time he got the ball he stoped the play, he can't pass or shoot and every time he trying to help the offence... he looks useless. I have to hand it to him, when he was substituted Sampdoria got more possession in the middle and it looked like no one trying to take the ball from them, and I don't know if this happned because Gattuso steped down or because the team was just tired.
Look for example at Barca or Chelsea, even their hard working players can sometimes join the attack and help to creat something... I mean can a team at this level to allow herself to have a player in the middle that have no attacking or creative skills at all???

i did not see the game, i spent my time skiing today.. i was hoping to watch the game really, but now im thankful i didnt cuz it wud have just ruined my mood..

gre-no-li.. zlatanov is right, there r other members around here that really get annoyed with ur posts, including me.. u always want new players into the team, u want them to splash out the cash, u want to flame the players that dint play well... i dont mind u expressing ur opinion a few times, but u see with u bro, u keep repeating the same idea over and over and over agian in most of ur posts..u keep sayin that our management is bad for not making any transfers now, u keep sayin that ancelotti is to blame, etc..

im not attacking u or anything, im just trying to explain to u how others think.. maybe it'll be better if u simply just try to not blame the board or the players about it.. ofcourse u may be right, but remember that neither ur opinion, nor anyones opinion here counts for anything, and it will not change the way milan play unfortunately.. i really used to be very negative about everything.. i have recently noticed that no matter how much i complain, it'll not do anything, so i really dont bother much.. maybe u shud try

i just saw the highlights of the game and it seems like we have been having most of the chances, with 3 dangerous chances through sheva, kaka, and seedorf, but for a team like Milan and with a team like ours, we were supposed to have more chances since they equalised early..i dont know what on EARTH was dida thinking.. i really dont know what the hell went wrong, this is so wierd, ive never seen something like this.. maybe the guy needs 3 or 4 games at the sidelines.. i also think that ancelotti should have made changes much earlier to change our style of play to start getting more dangerous in getting the goals..

i have a Q for those who watched the game, how did Rui Costa and Gila play? and is it only me that thinks Inzaghi is not improving game by game? especially with his finishing?

Rui Costa didn't play...

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

gre-no-li.. zlatanov is right, there r other members around here that really get annoyed with ur posts, including me.. u always want new players into the team, u want them to splash out the cash, u want to flame the players that dint play well... i dont mind u expressing ur opinion a few times, but u see with u bro, u keep repeating the same idea over and over and over agian in most of ur posts..

It's just a matter of opinion, Hitmmanq8: I get really annoyed, even sick, for instance, with the rather silly conformism displayed by people like Zlatanov, who keeps preaching the same stupid thing over and over...

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

i really used to be very negative about everything.. i have recently noticed that no matter how much i complain, it'll not do anything, so i really dont bother much.. maybe u shud try

I guess that's a funny and odd conclusion, to say the least: it's pretty obvious that my complainings will change nothing at Milan, but 'oh life is so sweet' mindlessly sugarcoated and edulcorated attitude of Zlatanov & cia. can't do better, dude; it can do even worst, indeed, because it doesn't estimulate the critical refletion.

first of all, since milan is playing badly, there are lots of "fiights" on this forum, which i can understand. But still, we have to at least try to respect other peoples oppinions. I always say I dont agree with Zlatanov or some other people that say we are fine and no changes need to be done. On the other hand, we cant become Real Madrid, it would be awfull. We dont need to spend 150 mil on superstar players, our players and coach just needs to be good enough, just the way juve does it. In my oppinion, Carlo is doing a horrible job running this team, he has no authority and is not capable of making any team play 100% of their potential. He already prove that in Juve and Parma where he failed. Milan plays in individual way, not like a team, with hope kaka,sheva,seedorf will do something. Pirlos crosses were horrible, he didnt play well in defence, lost too many balls in the middle. How can someone say he did ok????? NO . he deserved a 5 grade! He should be a leader of this team and he behaves like he is ronaldinho and plays only when he has the ball, pathetic ( its Carlos fault-he is letting pirlo do what ever he wants ). One more question, how many trained attacks and actions did you see milan play?? We have no idea how to swich sides, rotate midfielders, cross from flanks.....our players simply dont run enoughj, they dont moove without the ball!! look at that detail next time. you cant play defence when pirlo,seedorf and kaka simply dont care about it, its unacceptable. we dont need ronaldinho or other superstart, but we do need tougher manager and young blood. Maybe even a man like Moggi to do us some of his magic. TO be realistic - players like serginho,rui costa,costacurta,amoroso,vogel,simic, are not world class, and its ok for now to have tham as a reserves ( which we do ), but we have to look forward and renew out team. This season is over for us, scudetto is gone. Lets focus on CL and stop talking everything is fine when you can see we play like shi! . now lets take on bayern with 120% of our power!

Originally Posted by mrki

I always say I dont agree with Zlatanov or some other people that say we are fine and no changes need to be done.

mrki, please find one single post of mine where I say that NO changes are necessary. Find just one and I will admit that I was wrong for saying that. I do believe, however, that there is a difference between asking for several players that would be relatively cheap and easy to get and asking for players like Aguero, Chivu, Teves, Torres, etc, etc each of whom will cost ~20 mil and in Torres' case at least twice that amount.
I honestly believe that there isn't a single person in this forum, who would say that nothing needs to be changed given out current situation. But again, how realistic is it to believe that a club like Milan, with its frugal and careful transfer policy, would splash enormous amounts of cash for unproven players, who may very well not change anything once they come at Milan.
And it is perfectly fine with me, and I am sure by saying that I speak for many other members too, if someone has some very unrealistic ideas of how things could get better. As far as I am concerned, there is nothing wrong in having those ans sharing them with other forum mebers in one, two, three, ... 5 ...10 of your posts. But repeating one and the same thing and complaining, and complaining, and complaining over and over, and over again in ... I don't know how many posts so far, becomes just plain annoying in the end. I have to admit that I myself start to lose interest in visiting some of my favourite threads simply because I read one and the same complaints posted 15-20 times and all of them coming from the same person. I don't see this as giving an opinion, I see it as trying to beat your opinion into the heads of other people, becase this is the only way you can get them to agree with you.
Oh, yeah, one other thing, as well - I am having a pretty cool head when I am posting this, and that previous entry too.
Cheers.

An overall excellent post, mrki, congratulations! That said, I only want to add further considerations on some of your brilliant remarks:

Originally Posted by mrki

One more question, how many trained attacks and actions did you see milan play?? We have no idea how to swich sides, rotate midfielders, cross from flanks.....our players simply dont run enoughj, they dont moove without the ball!!

You hit the bull's eye with that observation, that's exactly what's happening: our players are clueless on the pitch, and if wasn't for the great individual value of some of our players, the situation would be a lot worst, that's the sad true. It looks that we are running out of tatical alternatives, nothing capable of articulate an efficient gameplay.

Originally Posted by mrki

TO be realistic - players like serginho,rui costa,costacurta,amoroso,vogel,simic, are not world class, and its ok for now to have tham as a reserves ( which we do ), but we have to look forward and renew out team.

Couldn't agree more, my friend: the players you quoted
are great subs, but they cannot be starters on club like Milan, we need better players and more squad depth, everyone who is not blind can see that.

Originally Posted by mrki

Lets focus on CL and stop talking everything is fine when you can see we play like shi! .now lets take on bayern with 120% of our power!

We are not only playing like ****, we are also talking and acting like ****, which portrays an even worst state of affairs. I really hope we can overcome Bayern, but that will be a very hard task.

Well, when one talks about repeating the same stuff again and again, I'm certainly not the 'winner'....