Milan vs Livorno

Because Real is desparate... and what's so great about Ancheloti's work at Milan? We play the same football for the past 3-4 years... only getting worse each year.
I say sack Carlo, bring in some new coach.

Originally Posted by The-Fan

Because Real is desparate... and what's so great about Ancheloti's work at Milan? We play the same football for the past 3-4 years... only getting worse each year.
I say sack Carlo, bring in some new coach.

well 4 cl years : 4 cl semis, 2 final, 1 cup. we have so many old players and its quite remarkable how he manages them and still puts our club amongst the top clubs of the world. he is mainly responsible for our club's high european rankings. he brings in unity among players which brings in more creativity and understanding. I do not think that there is anyother coach in the world who understands our players more than ancelotti hence, the idea of bringing a new coach ( who doesn't know a sh!t abt our club some1 like mourinho,etc.,) is very very vague!

as i have mentioned earlier abt real's board, they have one of the best analyzers of the game and definitely they are not just looking for a coach, they are looking for THE COACH who can revive their past glory of del bosque.

currently, our club has the best rapport shared among current players, past players, administrators, coaches and fans; do u have any idea how much our club will be in a disarray if he is sacked? we might just become the second madrid of europe!

come on.... give him some credit! after all it will always be difficult to manage such a big club like ours!

Originally Posted by The-Fan

Because Real is desparate... and what's so great about Ancheloti's work at Milan? We play the same football for the past 3-4 years... only getting worse each year.
I say sack Carlo, bring in some new coach.

Well, what do you want him to do - get out 50 mil out of his own pocket every other year and spend it on the players he needs and wants, the ones that would really fit his plans not the ones Milan deems "right" to buy because of their low to no price at all?
I guess people are right though - you truely appreciate something only after you've already lost it.
P.S. Well said, rahul

Please! Does anyone have a direct link to tomorow's game? GOL TV is showing Juve-Siena instead. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Its a simple method of approaching this game. Focus on the win, and use wide areas against Livorno to stretch them as much as possible.

Mazzone is a coach who usually looks to play a disciplined, tight and fairly defensive game against us, so hopefully we can look to technically out do them and get a goal to make them open up.

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!

Zlatanov: Well, what do you want him to do - get out 50 mil out of his own pocket every other year and spend it on the players he needs and wants

No....
I want him not to lose twice after leading with 3 goals advantage in the CL.
I want him to win Scudetto more than once, specialy last year when we were so much better than Juve... same goes this year.
I want us stop conceding goals regulary from crosses and set-pieces, something that is purely coach's job to deal with this problem.
I want to understand another thing: we rested much of our main players against Lecce because we had a Lyon game a few days after... now we played our main squad against Messina a few days before much harder game with Barca. Can someone explain to me? If this isn't a flawed management than I don't know what is. Our players had to rest before home game with Lyon, and not rest before much tougher encounter in Nou-Camp being 0-1 down??????????? ah?????
And one more thing that I want for him is to make the players work... if Villareal average players can press and push Arsenal and Inter, than we should expect our players do the same at least with Lyon... I say u could see in Lyon that our team doesn't have what it takes anymore. We were humilated both by Lyon and Barca infront of all our fans, is this the team u want to see next year????? U won't get even that, because we will be even worse...

This is what I want from Ancheloti... is it too much????

Originally Posted by The-Fan

No....
I want him not to lose twice after leading with 3 goals advantage in the CL.
I want him to win Scudetto more than once, specialy last year when we were so much better than Juve... same goes this year.
I want us stop conceding goals regulary from crosses and set-pieces, something that is purely coach's job to deal with this problem.
I want to understand another thing: we rested much of our main players against Lecce because we had a Lyon game a few days after... now we played our main squad against Messina a few days before much harder game with Barca. Can someone explain to me? If this isn't a flawed management than I don't know what is. Our players had to rest before home game with Lyon, and not rest before much tougher encounter in Nou-Camp being 0-1 down??????????? ah?????
And one more thing that I want for him is to make the players work... if Villareal average players can press and push Arsenal and Inter, than we should expect our players do the same at least with Lyon... I say u could see in Lyon that our team doesn't have what it takes anymore. We were humilated both by Lyon and Barca infront of all our fans, is this the team u want to see next year????? U won't get even that, because we will be even worse...

This is what I want from Ancheloti... is it too much????

Give him a squad not with just 13-14 players he feels comfortable playing but 20 such players, and then expect him to deliver a Serie A and CL double year after year. Then Carlo won't have to field physically and mentally exhausted players, who let a 3-0 lead slip away from them, and the rest of your wishes will be granted as well, I guess.
If not, call Galliani and berlusconi, write them a letter if you wish, and ask them those same things you mentioned above ... ask them because carlo isn't the one who's respinsible for the squad - he is just an employee who's been paid to work with what's given to him. It's hardly fair for someone like him to bare all the consequances of the team's SUPPOSED failures because when Milan wins a Cl or scudetto, Silvio is first in line to go to the media and remind them that all that is because of him. Quite funny, when the team fails to win a scudetto or a CL, Carlo's the only one whose name is associated with words like "sacking", "failure", "missed opportunities", "this should have been done, not that", etc, etc ... while at the same time, Berlusconi is watching all that from a safe distance leaving Galliani to cover up the mess.
If you can't do even that, then I guess your best bet for having all those wishes come true is do nothing but wait for Christmas.

P.S. Explanation on the Lecce game - not sure where the mystery is but still here is the key to the door - did we lose the game vs Lecce after fielding a reserve team? Yep, we did and if we had won that game, we would have been equal qith juve right now, a position that would make us the champs in the end. Hence, the team fielded vs Reggina - our best players.
And why was that - because everyone asks and expects from Carlo double miracles with a team that's mostly improved by adding out of contract players in the end of each year.

I don't think we should be unfair either. Milan does have a lot of good players that aren't old: Kaladze, Nesta, Pirlo, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Kaká, Shevchenko and Gilardino, to mention a few. These players are the back-bone of the team, and they all play regularly.
I'd say that Milan actually has a decent combination of youth and experience in the squad - the problem is that some of the older players are getting too old now, and need to be replaced. Two of them (Stam, and probably Rui Costa) will be leaving us this summer, and I think everyone can see that Maldini and Billy aren't physically capable of being anything more than substitutes anymore. So I think we will see 3-4 players join us this summer, 3-4 players who can go straight into the starting 11.

I do agree that new and younger players should be brought in though, and I cannot understand that we can't afford to do so, while Juve can. However, maybe we are being more cautious with our money than other top teams, bringing in proven players who have shown that they can perform at the highest level. Bringing in younger players will always be a gamble, because you never know how well they will be able to do at a big club like Milan.

As frustrating as it is to see that Milan is bringing in older players every summer, I do wonder if it's not a way to ensure that Milan will be a top club for years to come. The financial climate in Italian football is not good at the moment, so we need to be careful with how we spend our funds. If we bring in a batch of younger, expensive players who ultimately fail to perform or are terribly inconsistent (as younger players often are), then where would we stand? With no money and a crappy team that wouldn't have any chance of winning any major trophies.

And I do wonder, if our players are too old and Ancelotti's ideas are getting dated and predictable, then how in the world did we manage to get ourselves in a position where we're fighting for the scudetto and making it to the semi-finals of the Champions League? Some magical coincidence? I think not.

Things are not as bad as we think they are. Milan, as a club, is in good health.

I also think we need to get it into our heads that we will probably never be as dominant again as we were 15 years ago. We're a big club, and we will win lots of trophies in the years to come. But that era is gone. We'll win the Champions League again, and we'll win the Serie A again (maybe even twice in a row), but we won't ever be as dominant again as we were back then.

I don't see how that would even be possible, considering that we are not the only club with a big name, money and an excellent training facility and business strategy anymore. We reached that position because we re-defined what it meant to be a football club, and the rest of Europe's top sides eventually followed our example. And now they have caught up with us, due to various circumstances. I don't blame Milan for this, as there is a limit to how much we can develop in such a (relatively) short time.

Football is in a recessive period right now. The financial bubble burst in Italy a few years ago (because Italy was at the forefront of this development - thus Italy was dominating European football in the 90s), and eventually the same will happen in the rest of Europe as well.
Already clubs in other countries are finding it hard to deal with the current financial climate of the sport. I just read that in Bayern Munich, they believe that they have won their last Champions League, because they're not making anywhere near as much money as the other big clubs in Europe.
The gap between rich and poor is constantly getting bigger, and eventually something will be done about this, because it is destroying the competition aspect of the game.

Wage caps, limits on how big transfer fees can be, an equal sharing of the money from TV rights. These things will happen, sooner or later. They have to, or watching a league game between Manchester United and Birmingham will be like watching the Harlem Globetrotters play the Chesterfield Donkeys in basketball.

A European super league would be another option, to just take the biggest clubs out of their domestic competitions entirely. But would we, as Milan fans, accept that we've won our last Serie A trophy? Would Real Madrid fans accept that they have won la liga for the last time? Would Liverpool fans accept that they'll never see their team win the Premier League again? I doubt it very much.

So for now, I think we should be pleased with how Milan is being run. They are doing things in a way that ensures that we'll stay competitive for years to come. It may not be glamorous. We may not get the same media hype as other teams. But at least we won't be bankrupt when the financial bubble of European football bursts, and we're not running the risk of bringing in expensive players who flop.

There may be better options, but Carlo isn't inferior to many, and may well be the best that are available to us. If I have to, I would rather point my fingers to Galliani for his notorious frugality and Berlusconi for his fading enthusiasm. As for Ancelotti, I personally like him a lot, as I think he has done decent job given what he has. I really don't mind if he stays with us for many years to come. If we weren't such a big club that forbids us to give up on any front, we probably could do what Liverpool did last season and what Arsenal are doing now, and we probably could have ended up with more trophies. It is unfortunate but let's face it.

Originally Posted by Xudong

There may be better options, but Carlo isn't inferior to many, and may well be the best that are available to us. If I have to, I would rather point my fingers to Galliani for his notorious frugality and Berlusconi for his fading enthusiasm. As for Ancelotti, I personally like him a lot, as I think he has done decent job given what he has. I really don't mind if he stays with us for many years to come. If we weren't such a big club that forbids us to give up on any front, we probably could do what Liverpool did last season and what Arsenal are doing now, and we probably could have ended up with more trophies. It is unfortunate but let's face it.

But, only the best will dream for the best. There is no point in giving up 1 trophy for another. Should always go for both because this is Milan. They are expected to win.

I wud say that we won't realize the sacchi era glory but in fact we will have have a much bigger success. Why do i feel that? becoz we have the right coach to do that ( and i don't want to tire myself by justifying it). Now that berlu is jobless he might start showing more interest in the club in terms of $$$$

what else do we need to do? we need to get just 1 or 2 good players per season, the reason why i reiterate that is because we have to make sure that the new players merge into our team and understand the rossoneri attitude and culture. what will happen if we get lots of new players? there will be formation of groups in teams which will disturb the healthy atmosphere. we also have to make sure that the players we buy shud have the committment of doing good and also a good character, otherwise we might end up having players like ibra who is young, talented but wild and arrogant! In my view players who are of the ideal stature are
-henry ( his loyalty towards arsenal and his love towards the great game proves what he is?)
-zidane ( he is just over worked, if he use him in the right games we will extract what he had been doing prior to 2003)
-riquelme ( his attitude speaks alot about his mental strength)
-del piero ( who has been saying all this season that he wants to actually play the game and not act as a backup)
-totti ( i accept that he may get too violent but that just coz he is too emotional, if he wanted he cud have had joined us or any bigger club in the beggining of his career but insisted upon roma coz it was the club he liked since his childhood)
-raul gonzalez ( 28 yrs, 400 caps, 180 goals and counting and captain of arguably the best club in the world )
-steven gerrard ( 2004 - 05 season, he is so different than other money minded english players like beckham and owen)
-whops forgot ronaldinho.

I know signing them is as unrealistic as asking morrati play for our club but they set the standard of the ideal player for any club

we need players of honour and character more than mere players of skills. Godspeed galliani and braida.

ppl grow with time. Arsene Wenger wudn't have been the wenger we know if he hadn't with arsenal for so long. Ferguson wudn't have been the person we know for the same reason. some how i feel that if we just have to have a change of coach i feel it shud be pellegrini, but its just an assupmtion that he might do very well at our club.

Give him a squad not with just 13-14 players he feels comfortable playing but 20 such players, and then expect him to deliver a Serie A and CL double year after year. Then Carlo won't have to field physically and mentally exhausted players, who let a 3-0 lead slip away from them, and the rest of your wishes will be granted as well, I guess.

Oh yeah? So that's the reason we can't keep a 3 goals advantage??? Because our team is exhausted? lol... I mean than how did we gain the lead from the begining??? I mean here we are crashing Depor 4-1 and two weeks later losing to them 4-0... did our players get so exhausted after only two weeks? I mean how? Did Berlusconi took them to work in one of his factories some extra-hours to carry big rocks on ther backs or something? Same for Liverpool, I remember before the CL final the Scudetto was all ready lost and we rested our main players, so they were all fresh before the game. And Liverpool was struggling for 4th place with Everton in premiership... and once again we go up on 3 goals advantage and in 15 minutes lose them all... exhaustion? What, Berlusconi took the team to work in some mine to extract some coal during the half time??
And u say Ancheloti feels comfortable only with 13-14 players in his squad??? That's complete nonsense, as I remember him to praise the team for having two players on every position both this and last seasons, so think before u talk.

Explanation on the Lecce game - not sure where the mystery is but still here is the key to the door - did we lose the game vs Lecce after fielding a reserve team? Yep, we did and if we had won that game, we would have been equal qith juve right now, a position that would make us the champs in the end. Hence, the team fielded vs Reggina - our best players.
And why was that - because everyone asks and expects from Carlo double miracles with a team that's mostly improved by adding out of contract players in the end of each year.

I didn't get ur explanation, or u didn't get my question. Whe had a relatively easy game with Lyon at home so we rested all our main players to prepair for it. And before much harder game with Barca in Nou-Camp with one goal disadvantage, we didn't rest our players with Messina and played with our main squad.... what's logic in that?? If we will lose the Scudetto, than it's [/u]completely[u] Ancheloti's fault, what the hell was his priorities??????? Do u get what I'm talking about, my point????

I always anjoy talking about Carlo Ancelotti... Its obviouse people in Italy like him very much. He is a coach that maintains a good atmosphere in a team, has built great spirit in Milanello, and so on...he has some great results in europe, he also has some horrible tactics played behind him, he also has probaly the best players in one team Europe has seen in last few years....HE HAS 1 SCUDETTO IN 4 YEARS. BUT, he is also a coach that has no needed courage for changesm cant choose the players he wants becouse he cant stand up toi Berlusconi and Galliani ( reason Cappelo went away from Milan....). Carlo cant change formations, cant integrate new players unless they are extreme world class ( kaka' ). He DIDNT develop Pirlo as a DM, they did it in Brescia. Milan does need fresh engine in locker room,and Van Basten or Donadoni need to come in.
I wish Carlo all the luck he needs in Madrid, but Milan is above personal simphatys, Milan needs to progress further, and it cant hapen with Carlo. We need to be faster and more brutal in midfield,and Carlo is not up for such changes. Thank you Carlo and see you....in the final somewhere.
He was very good,has some mistakes, had some great moments. Payers like him,but now its time to moove on.

MILAN-LIVORNO, LE FORMAZIONI UFFICIALI
30/04/2006
MILANO - Così in campo a San Siro per la terz'ultima giornata di Serie A:

MILAN: Dida; Cafu, Stam, Kaladze, Serginho; Gattuso, Pirlo, Jankulovski; Rui Costa; Shevchenko, Inzaghi. All: Ancelotti.

A disposizione: Kalac, Simic, Costacurta, Vogel, Kakà, Gilardino, Amoroso.

LIVORNO: Amelia; Fanucci, Grandoni, Galante; Balleri, Morrone, Passoni, De Ascentis, Pfertzel; Palladino, Lucarelli. All: Mazzone.

A disposizione: Acerbis, Vargas, Argilli, Cesar Prates, Ruotolo, Bakayoko, Paulinho.

From acmilan.com


I like the team he's got out

like acmilan918 asked... is there a direct link for the game???


very urgent!!! ... TV loves to break down when i need it the most!! FACK!!!