Milan ponder for Thuram

Originally Posted by SANT

Xudong, how old are you? what do you do for a living?

I just turned 30 last month..

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

and out of leniency Xudong i will not tell you what i think of your post.

For you, and other people here too, I will quote my post one more time, and please do comment.

Originally Posted by Xudong

To all the old farts fan club members: I also believe that players over 30 are washed out and useless, and to make things worse, they occupy the places that should belong to the younger and more promising stars, which greatly reduces the watchability of this wonderful event. I think it is time for FIFA to take some action to change World Cup officially to U-30 and impose strict age restriction. Out of leniency, we probably can set another smaller-size senior event for over-aged players like Nesta, Cannavaro, Hislop, Figo, Crespo, Cafu, Beckham. they disgust me..

Xudong, you and Gre-no-li are over 30...

I'd be funny if I (being still in my 20's) proposed something similar to your WC age restriction... no posters over 30 in MM... then we could get rid of all this crap you're writing... in Gre-no-li's words, you both be "old farts", you'd be useless, and unemployed based on your own criteria...

However, I'd be insulting many other posters who are over 30, and are smart enough to make intelligent comments... so, we're back to the point... age is not the most important factor, neither is talent... it's a combination of all this, with love for ones work and good attitude... and I don't see you displaying it right now...

Originally Posted by SANT

Xudong, you and Gre-no-li are over 30...

I'd be funny if I (being still in my 20's) proposed something similar to your WC age restriction... no posters over 30 in MM... then we could get rid of all this crap you're writing... in Gre-no-li's words, you both be "old farts", you'd be useless, and unemployed based on your own criteria...

However, I'd be insulting many other posters who are over 30, and are smart enough to make intelligent comments... so, we're back to the point... age is not the most important factor, neither is talent... it's a combination of all this, with love for ones work and good attitude... and I don't see you displaying it right now...

I am surprised to hear this from you (and Jim_UK too) to say the least. Please read again (and this time, carefully, please. ) before commenting. (Hint: read the few names of 'old farts' listed there please. Please do read. I thought that was clear enough, and if you still don't get it after two or three times already, then I am out of here. ) I have been too busy to post often recently, so I guess that's why you don't know my style.

For your record, I didn't know GNL is over 30. That is a bit surprising to me too..

There are a few people in MM (probably no more than 3) who know what I do for a living. I am not unemployed for your record, but that's not important anyway.

Peace.

I think Xudong's post was total sarcasm.
Am I right? Do I win?

Originally Posted by Vadim

I think Xudong's post was total sarcasm.
Am I right? Do I win?

I think you won. Maybe I will meet you in Chicago this winter. I hope I can find some time then.

If it was a joke, it was so good that it was really bad... maybe it is just that I am too aprehensive after reading GNL...

please confirm it was a joke...

Originally Posted by SANT

If it was a joke, it was so good that it was really bad... maybe it is just that I am too aprehensive after reading GNL...

please confirm it was a joke...

Originally Posted by Xudong

To all the old farts fan club members: I also believe that players over 30 are washed out and useless, and to make things worse, they occupy the places that should belong to the younger and more promising stars, which greatly reduces the watchability of this wonderful event. I think it is time for FIFA to take some action to change World Cup officially to U-30 and impose strict age restriction. Out of leniency, we probably can set another smaller-size senior event for over-aged players like Nesta, Cannavaro, Hislop, Figo, Crespo, Cafu, Beckham. they disgust me..

That was my post.

Well, well, well... I'm not saying at all that people over 30 are useless, that's simple a calumny... all I've said, plain and simple, is that younger players fit better on today's football.

haha, Xudong's post was pretty funny. Btw, just in case people haven't realised yet, yes, it is sarcasm

Originally Posted by GRE-NO-LI

Well, well, well... I'm not saying at all that people over 30 are useless, that's simple a calumny... all I've said, plain and simple, is that younger players fit better on today's football.

I think your biggest mistake is to create "old farts fan club". Whoever is defending old dudes would become a member automatically. That is not fair and this is a forum for free and fair opining. Check out this statement: "To those stupid people who disagree with me, I hereby kindly ask this question... ". No one would want to disagree with you otherwise they would be stupid, according to the logic here. And I wouldn't call that fair.

well, back to the topic of older players. I like young and good players too. Between two players of same quality, younger age means possibly a longer period around. but that's just theoretically speaking, Milan is a club of success, so like many other big clubs, they don't want to take any risk. They want to have established stars. I know that we have probably overdone a bit, but to push it to the other extreme is simply what I don't want to see. And 30 is certainly a golden age looks to me, in any department. (not that because I am 30, I am not a player.)

back to the topic of older players on this WC. I actually think World Cup is especially such a place for them to shine. More and more of them will stand out as the tournament marches on. I would rather think that they are reserving their energy for the coming bigger games. I can't help thinking if Maldini (or even Costacurta) was still playing in the Azzuri, Italy wouldn't be in such a predicament after what Zaccardo did. but of course for the selfish sake of Milan, I don't want that to happen.

and back to the original topic, Thuram. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with us, knowing Galliani. And I agree with some members here, he would be a useful addition short-term speaking, but I was hoping that the departure of Shevchenko would trigger a drastic change in our transfer policy. And that is, I don't mind having Thuram, but I want Gallas or Lugano (why isn't anybody talking about him any more?).

Cheers,

Originally Posted by Xudong

I was hoping that the departure of Shevchenko would trigger a drastic change in our transfer policy.

That's also my biggest hope.

if juve went down to c/b, we've all been saying that we want zambrotta, buffon,trez or whoever.. but there's 1 player that none of us have mentioned yet and i think he would be an amazing signing.. he also is having the best world cup from all the players at Juve.. I really think he would fit in well in D alongside Nesta. Im talking about Fabio Cannavaro. I think he has at least 3 more good season ahead of him, so why not?

actually he has been mentioned, but im also surprised no one mentioned mutu, i think he can be a hit here, i always wanted him at milan

Cannavaro, Thuram and Trez?!? God may help us...

I agree with Gre-no-li. I think in general the club has done well with recruitments over the past 4 yrs, which include Seedorf, kaka, nesta, and gila. We need to go young. We need to get good young players such as Diego Lugano of Sao Paolo or snatch Mexes away from Roma rather than go for Thuram and Favalli. I know Kala Kaladze is not the most appreciated in these forums but I think he was one of our very best last yr and will get better as he keeps on playing as a CB. We got him young and his perseverence paid off. I don't want any of the frenchmen in Milan, including Gallas. He is already 29, and I haven't liked his attitude at the world cup. I would rather take chances on young players with potential such as Colocinni (who bombed by the way) than older players. Thuram and Gallas will not be 1st choice this season, because with all due respect, they are not better at this pt in time than Kaladze. Also, I know it is easy to discard old players, but the great captain will be back and healthy this coming season. Let's not forget that he was playing at an extremely high level before he suffered his injury in December. We need a youngster who can learn and absord what it is to be a great milan player.