Official: Ronaldo signs for Milan

Originally Posted by Milanista4ever

BWAH, so true. Damn, some ppl are too passionate about Fatnaldo to even make sense in what they argue about....what kind of true fans would accept seeing a player of his team going to training DRUNK??

There's even more hope in Aubeymang (however u spell his name) than that Brazilian Fatty, not that Im agreeing with Galliani in his stance about not getting a FWD

Well I guess we'll agre to disagre then. If you didn't understand the intent of my hyperbole our conversation is by nature on paralell planes.
Perhaps some of you are here satisfied with a bunch of strikers who couldn't score in a whorehouse, but I love Milan and I want to see my club do well. That is what gave us our shiny image in the first place. If a player is contributing in a large and meaningful way to the team then that is all I ask of him. If on a personal level he is exemplary- then all the better. But as none of us can truly know what dwells in the minds and hearts of others, while sitting behind a conputer screen, I'd gladly accept tangible results first.

As for the person that called him Fatnaldo, I'm sure that with your acute awareness of current footballing events you are aware that Ronaldo is currently down to his WC 2002 weight.....but then again why should so trivial a thing as fact ruin your otherwise perfect argument.

I stand by my words....I rather a lazy drunk Ronaldo who can score a hattrick in 30 min then WALK and not defend for the rest of the game than a hardworking, consciencious Gila who goes for months without scoring and disappears completely in big games. Its just my opinion

We dont care what Ronaldo does in his personal life. But being late and unprepared in Milanello is simply out of the question! Those things interupt in Milan's team and relations between players and coaches. Ronaldo is not fit for years now, he is 30 and pretty seriously injured. I dont see any reasonable idea why we should sign that kind of a striker. He cant play top level football anymore, not to mention serie a football.

well well... the discussion continues... imagine the impact Ronaldo bein' late... drunk & unprepared for trainin' will do... you mean you wouldn't mind Kaka (or any of our promisin' youngsters) followin' that example (after watchin' Ronaldo constantly not bein' disciplined for doin' so) & in the process drink (and/or eat) his way to twice his weight?

honestly... i don't see how that can not be a problem... if we are goin' to set our standard so low... we should have decided not to fight the scandal & go down into Serie B...

Originally Posted by Milanista4ever

There's even more hope in Aubeymang

thanks for the free laugh. this topic needs it!

(talking about spelling, not the meaning...)

Ronaldo was a phenomenon. He was without question at one stage the best player in the world. No one is disputing that fact. The feeling that I get among Milan fans is that the signing of Ronaldo has many more negative aspects then possible positive ones.

Like others have expressed, an undisciplined Ronaldo could destroy the team’s atmosphere. It could cause troubles within the dressing room. Now with the transfer fee and wages paid, Milan could surely look elsewhere and sign someone like Alexandre Pato. I seen him play regularly and I have the feeling that he has the ability to become a great player. The only question mark over his head is will be adapt to Calcio.

There is lots of talk about Milan not have a great transfer kitty. If that is the case then the coach, management and Berlusconi need to sit down at seasons end and discuss what Milan really need. The last thing Milan needs is to buy players on their status that no longer deliver.

Drucurl, it is not the first time you express your LOVE towards Ronaldo. He seems to be your favorite player and because of that you don't want to see the truth and be realistic. Ronaldo may have scored at the world cup and he might have scored some goals this season as well, but it is clear that he is nowhere where he used to be and he looks really bad on the field. He looks slow, and the type of slow has nothing to do with how fast he runs the 100m for. When I say slow, I mean slow on the ball, slow with his decisions, slow on his runs.......he is just slow in footballing point of view and not from sprinting point of view.
When Ronaldo used to touch the ball a while ago it used to excite me because I had this feeling that something is about to happen, but when he touches the ball now I get no feeling. He looks like a slug. You said he can serve us as Larsson did Barcelona, but as someone here already mentioned Barca didn't pay nowhere as near as what Real is asking for Ronaldo. Plus his salary would probably be one of the highest in the club if not THE highest of all players. I just don't think that he has anything near what it takes to deserve that much money. Now because he is your favorite player, you might think otherwise, but put your feelings on the side for a while and think realistically.
Second, I don't like Capello that much as I think he is very arrogant and always wants it his way even if it is wrong, but on Ronaldo I'll have to agree with him.

Originally Posted by drucurl

You mean like his treatment of Baggio, Montella and DelPiero?
Or maybe its his refusal to play Robinho
Maybe its the fact that he never liked Miccoli / Maresca
How about his undying love and devotion to Raul?
Could it be his preference of Emerson over Diarra
Or his disdain for Cicchino
Maybe you could justify the harsh treatment of Cassano..........its not like anyone has mentioned to get the best out of a hot headed striker the way Wenger turned Henry to a superstar or Ferguson calmed down Rooney

Perfect, drucurl!!! Perfect...
Capello IS a primadona!!
Cleary Ronaldo isn´t a solution for the future, but right now, the guy is better than anything that we have.
Some of you guys forget how dangerous is our situation....We have half Serie A to try a C. League qualification... and we are far from the 4º position.

Cleary a guy like, Robinho, Nilmar or Alexandre Pato(just to put brazilians) would be a solution for now and the future, but NOW, in the winter window, is almost impossible to purchase a players to solve our problems for the future.

Regarding Ronaldo, these negative hype is not only unfair, but stupid(no ofense). For the first time in years, the guy is in shape(9% body fat), and even the spanish press that always bash his weight confirm that. So, please stop these weight thing, be at least fair.

Capello is a clown...the guy is the only coach that I know that after a to lose a game, blame his players. The last defeat against Deportivo, the clown blamed Casillas.

Off Topic: Man, this Robinho drunk thing is the most covard act that I saw. The press in Brazil loves to say wich players like the night, to drink and never, I said NEVER heard anything about Robinho. Even in these Christmas games here in Brazil, when the players come from Europe, and organize beneficient games(that always finish w/ barbecue, beer and samba)...never the press talk about Robinho even drinking an only beer...One famous journalist always joke on Robinho still lives with his parents, and on they always control where robinho goes
I don´t know if you guys remember, but after the most embaras defeats this year, Mijatovic and Capello had always announced a purchase(Marcelo first, Higuain and Gago), but since they can´t buy more players, put this Robinho thing in the press...

Just to put one more name to your list(Del Piero, Baggio and Montella), ask Toti about Capello...

IMO Ronaldo isn´t the better solution, but the guy also isn´t a cancer like Casano...a contract until june would be good.

Actually to be fair, I am in favour of us signing Ronaldo, not because he wouldnt be a good contribution to the team, but because I see no point in us dealing with the scum bags of Real Madrid. After the way they treated us during the summer, threatening to involve Kaka in every bid we made for R9, there is no point in helping them correct their own mistake now. They screwed up themselves, for having bought RVN and not selling R9 when there was a clear demand in the market (from us). They've got a problem now, let them deal with it. Let them pay the two fatboys their wages til their contracts expire. And besides, we have Aubameyang

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

Perfect, drucurl!!! Perfect...
Capello IS a F*** primadona!!
Cleary Ronaldo isn´t a solution for the future, but right now, the guy is better than anything that we have.
Some of you guys forget how dangerous is our situation....We have half Serie A to try a C. League qualification... and we are far from the 4º position.

Cleary a guy like, Robinho, Nilmar or Alexandre Pato(just to put brazilians) would be a solution for now and the future, but NOW, in the winter window, is almost impossible to purchase a players to solve our problems for the future.

Regarding Ronaldo, these negative hype is not only unfair, but stupid(no ofense). For the first time in years, the guy is in shape(9% body fat), and even the spanish press that always bash his weight confirm that. So, please stop these weight thing, be at least fair.

Capello is a clown...the guy is the only coach that I know that after a to lose a game, blame his players. The last defeat against Deportivo, the clown blamed Casillas.

Off Topic: Man, this Robinho drunk thing is the most covard act that I saw. The press in Brazil loves to say wich players like the night, to drink and never, I said NEVER heard anything about Robinho. Even in these Christmas games here in Brazil, when the players come from Europe, and organize beneficient games(that always finish w/ barbecue, beer and samba)...never the press talk about Robinho even drinking an only beer...One famous journalist always joke on Robinho still lives with his parents, and on they always control where robinho goes
I don´t know if you guys remember, but after the most embaras defeats this year, Mijatovic and Capello had always announced a purchase(Marcelo first, Higuain and Gago), but since they can´t buy more players, put this Robinho thing in the press...

Just to put one more name to your list(Del Piero, Baggio and Montella), ask Toti about Capello...

IMO Ronaldo isn´t the better solution, but the guy also isn´t a cancer like Casano...a contract until june would be good.

Finally soneone who actually does his own research
Look guys I'm not expecting him to come here and walk on water like in the old days...but he surely is better than anything we have at present and at the very least is going to create a lot of space for the other strikers.
The other thing is that he and Kaka play very well together...unlike the Ronaldinho-Kaka duo where these superstars seem to cancel eachother.

I didn't want to include Totti to the list even though I knew he hated Capello because Capello IMO got the best out of Totti.

Originally Posted by nefremo

Drucurl, it is not the first time you express your LOVE towards Ronaldo. He seems to be your favorite player and because of that you don't want to see the truth and be realistic. Ronaldo may have scored at the world cup and he might have scored some goals this season as well, but it is clear that he is nowhere where he used to be and he looks really bad on the field. He looks slow, and the type of slow has nothing to do with how fast he runs the 100m for. When I say slow, I mean slow on the ball, slow with his decisions, slow on his runs.......he is just slow in footballing point of view and not from sprinting point of view.
When Ronaldo used to touch the ball a while ago it used to excite me because I had this feeling that something is about to happen, but when he touches the ball now I get no feeling. He looks like a slug. You said he can serve us as Larsson did Barcelona, but as someone here already mentioned Barca didn't pay nowhere as near as what Real is asking for Ronaldo. Plus his salary would probably be one of the highest in the club if not THE highest of all players. I just don't think that he has anything near what it takes to deserve that much money. Now because he is your favorite player, you might think otherwise, but put your feelings on the side for a while and think realistically.
Second, I don't like Capello that much as I think he is very arrogant and always wants it his way even if it is wrong, but on Ronaldo I'll have to agree with him.

I'll keep your points in mind...please remember that Ronaldo has seen perhaps the worst series of events recently...I disagree with your take on the situation since I watch him a lot and it would be a dream for my favourite player to play for my favourit club. Maybe my love for him is blind, but so far I have referred to statistics to get my points across.

Ronaldo's main problem is that he is a victim of his own successes and high standards. For Example I remember his worst ever season where he scored 21 goals in the La Liga season....I mean ANY OTHER STRIKER ON THE PLANET scoring 21 goals would never be knocked...but Ronaldo was simply because he's capable of playing soooooooo much better. The season he scored 14 goals he played less than half of what he was supposed to.

The thing is whatever his position he is still a worldclass goalscorer and that is what we need. I agree that while his physical speed hasn't diminished much his decisionmaking is much slower.....but then again if everytime you faced a defender they gave you a tackle to injure you..I suspect you would be cautious as well. Also Ronaldo plays much more of a provider than he ever did. He set up Adriano this WC, and he had a couple of assists to Raul and RVN as well

Ronaldo accepts Milan offer Wednesday 17 January, 2007

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Ronaldo is on the verge of leaving Real Madrid after agreeing financial terms with Milan, according to reports in Italy.

The Brazilian is ready to leave the Spanish giants and his agent Fabiano Farah met Rossoneri Vice-President Adriano Galliani on Tuesday.

Farah has now flown back to Spain where he is scheduled to speak with Merengues sporting director Predrag Mijatovic about a transfer.

According to La Gazzetta dello Sport, Milan have offered the former Golden Ball winner a £4m per season contract, plus his entire image rights worth a lucrative £8m a year – which Ronaldo currently shares with Real.

The Rossoneri were initially interested in a loan deal, but have reportedly now decided to make a move to sign the player on a permanent basis until 2008.

Ronaldo is also a reported target for Flamengo, Arabian club Al-Ittihad and the MLS, but he seems interested in playing for one more important European club before ending his career elsewhere.

In the meantime, Real chief Ramon Calderon has renewed his threat of netting Milan star Kaka next summer.

“If I will still be the President in June, it is very likely that Kaka will join this club,” said the official while meeting a group of students on Tuesday.


source channel4.com

I, for one do hope that ronaldo comes....i think that his attitude of turning up to training drunk and being unfit is typical of the lifestyle in real madrid (though that might change now with the galactico sales)....

i think players there can do whatever they please....whenever they please....i dont remember (and correct if im wrong) of ronaldo tunring up drunk, unfit etc when he was at inter....

Ronaldo is still a world class striker.....i think he could make a fantastic pairing with Gilardino....it would be a good purchase...i dont think he will cost us a lot as Real are desperate to rid themsleves of him (and maybe vice versa).

So, if he comes, i hope he can recapture some of his former glories and become the player we know he can be....and there is no better place in the world to do that then at MILAN!!!!

it is good he comes(but if we only spend like max 5mil€ on em, that is the very max)
when he is in shape he can do things only few players can.

i also think ronaldo, milan want him for kaka, another brazilian player in the team, so another friend for kaka IMHO
they want to make kaka happy, and they are prepared to do everything to do so.
which is good : kaka is priceless

Originally Posted by drucurl

Look guys I'm not expecting him to come here and walk on water like in the old days...but he surely is better than anything we have at present and at the very least is going to create a lot of space for the other strikers.

Oh come on, look at what Gila has been doing for us lately. There is no way that Ronaldo is better than him.
That being said, I am in favor of Ronaldo coming to Milan, because he is surely a better player than Borriello and Oliveira, and maybe even better than Pippo (although that can be argued).

from the official Milan site:

MILAN - Arriving at the Football League this morning, Adriano Galliani had this to say about Ronaldo: 'The Ronaldo hypothesis exists. Now we are waiting to see what Real Madrid have to say. The hypothesis is for a permanent transfer and a contract for a year and half at a figure inferior to what I have read in the newspapers today. The contract is the same one in length that he has with Real. The offer is to free up his contract with a permanent deal.

So it could really happen. Altough I was sceptic at first on his arrival, I am now excited about his possible arrival. And if you look at it: Ronaldo would complete a perfect circle: Inter->Barca->Real->Milan, he goes from rival to rival.