Lucarelli: Inter Milan's Ibrahimovic better than Van Basten..

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

Except Ronaldo isn't better, an equal maybe, but not greater than that's for sure.

Also try writing in english, we might understand you better.

Excuse me!! i didnt know we had an English professor ...please dont ban me :*(!

DAT DAT DAT DAT !
ANd i still believe that Ronaldo has more talent. By saying that i mean excellent ball control, speed and precision when it comes to getting the ball in the net wich is a big plus ... MBV was a very intelligent player and also a great striker ... just not as fast and didnt have that excellent ball control. As some just said he was opportunist (just like crespo and VaNisteslrooy) wich is not a bad thing.

My point is that Ronaldo is not like any other player... he transfers the adrenaline all the way from the stadium to you where ever you are... for me and im sure for Drucull and many other Ronaldo fans, watching Ronaldo play is one of the best feelings ever... more than that ..is a pleasure

How old are you some of you? Ibraimovich cannot be compared to Marco. Ronaldo is very good, who is Crespo. When i was young enough i saw a goal from MVB, he was the leader of a team that was making fan for a lot of years with all European teams. I became Milan because of MVB, Sheva was great but in some big games was absent, MVB was always there. The best, not insult him.

Ibra?? whoz dat!!

anyway basten is one of the top in europe, ronaldo is one of the top in ronaldo, cannot compare, awards you say?
well the way i see it if marco was in this genaration he would have a pile of awards and trophies, he was just injured.

BTW, best legends IMO:-

-Maradona
-Zidane
-Van Basten
-Cruyff
-Pele
-PLatini
-Maldini
-Beckenbaur
-Barsei
-Ronaldo

Having more tricks and being better freestyler doesn't mean you're a better player by any means. In terms of impact on the game VB's contribution was historic. Ibra insofar has contributed nothing, and that's what counts. That's like saying Cristiano Ronaldo is better than Jairzinho or something. I can find some random dood on youtube with better freestyle skills than Brocchi, but who's the one getting paid? Ibra has nothing on VB when it comes to all around talent. And btw Ronaldo was only best in the world for a short 1, 2 seasons, so that kinda discredits his impact on the game. Since his injury he has never even been close to reaching his form in 96-98. Not in 2002, not now, NEVER.

Compares to what Marco had achieved throughout his prematurely ended career, Zlatan is nothing! I admit he has the skills, i recalled in Amsterdam tournament several yeras ago when he kinda made a fool at Maldini. i asked myself "wow, who the hell is that kid?" But Marco is much more than just a finisher (which is something clearly Zlatan lack of), he has a classy play too, that's why people call him "The Swan". Long before I read Pele quoted football as "a beautiful game", Marco (and Milan) showed the world the very meaning of the words.

Forget about the rather subjective talk about skill, let's talk about the number: what trophies had Zlatan won that Marco didn't have? How many times had he became the top scorer at Eredivisie or Serie A? Or helping the team win the league title? Zlatan is having a good moment now, but it takes more than just a brief moment of sparkling performances. YOU MUST BE ABLE TO PLAY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL FOR YEARS. That's what Marco had shown us, that's what differs a true legend from a mere good player

Originally Posted by Nalx Sijabat

Forget about the rather subjective talk about skill, let's talk about the number: what trophies had Zlatan won that Marco didn't have? How many times had he became the top scorer at Eredivisie or Serie A? Or helping the team win the league title?

First of all, this comparison you make is unfair because one of them is retired and the other one is still 25 years old only and has many more years ahead of him.
Number of trophies won shouldn't and mustn't mean the one who won more is better than the other. Roberto Carlos has more trophies than Van Basten, and so does Raul. Is Raul better than MVB ?
If you compare the trophies they won you should do it this way : How many trophies MVB won until he was 25 ? ( although, even in this case it shouldn't be decissive in creating the final decission on who's better). And in this case MVB is leading by far ( 2 Champions Cups, 1 European championship, 1 scudetto, 2 Eredivisie trophies, 1 Cup winners Cup and he was a top scorer 4 times in Dutch league, once a top scorer in serie A, top scorer on EURO 88, and topscorer of CL 1988/89)
Zlatan won two scudetto's with Juve with the third one on it's way ( so 3 out of 3) , 2 Eredivisie trophies ( 2 out of 3) and was voted the best player in Italy 2 years ago and has a chance to win the same title this year also.

Also, don't forget MVB had the oportunity to play in the best team of the world in last 30 years ( Milan of late 80's early 90's) , he was Dutch and played for one of the best NT's in the world while Zlatan plays for average Swedish NT.

Van Basten's trophy cabinet until his 25th year looks impressive, but what did he win after that ? Not much at all, not even 1/10 of what he won until 1990. Yeah, the fatal injury, i know. But what if i look at that fatal injury this way : If he continued playing maybe he wouldn't have been as good as he was and people wouldn't have concider him the best of all time just because he had 3-4 incredibille seasons

Lucarelli said this after an impressive match Zlatan had against Livorno. On this match Zlatan did things MVB never did. I guess that's what Lucarelli wanted to say, because comparing a 25 years old Ibrahimovic to a legend such as MVB is stupid and ilogical at this point of Zlatan's cariere.

And i'll say again how this 2 aren't comparable. We're talking about a target man and an attacker who plays more wide. That's why i said compare MVB with Crespo, Trezeguet, RVN and then say he was better than them. Don't compare him with Zlatan, Henry, Shevchenko, Del Piero.
Because it's more or less like comparing a defender like Zambrotta with defender like Nesta.
I remember Van Basten perfectly. I was old enough when he was in his prime. He was a goal machine, scoring from every single position in the box but it's a fact he was great for 4 seasons only - 1988, 1989, 1990 and 1992 and had the luck to have the best midfielders in the world suplying him with balls.

So, all of you and Lucarelli - wait until Zlatan finishes his carriere to give your opinion on who was a better player !

Ronaldo is better than slatan.

i mean zlatan

Originally Posted by R9naldo

i mean zlatan

I know what you ment.
And i know you mean nightmare , not knightmare

..nope i mean knightmare ... try posting something that makes sense dude ..please

Sorry !
But Calm down please , we ain't your enemies here

And i don't think Ronaldo is so good as Zlatan is. He's average, imo. Something like Julio Cruz from Inter . He's better than , lets say, Floro Flores from Arezzo , but he's not even close to players like Crouch and Simone Inzaghi. They're both better than Ronaldo !

hey, that Floro Flores is amazing... measure your words, man...

To end this ... Van Basten is class above Ibra, in any way. Screw the flicks, football is something else. Marco had it more and had it all! Forza Marco Unico!

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Sorry !
But Calm down please , we ain't your enemies here

And i don't think Ronaldo is so good as Zlatan is. He's average, imo. Something like Julio Cruz from Inter . He's better than , lets say, Floro Flores from Arezzo , but he's not even close to players like Crouch and Simone Inzaghi. They're both better than Ronaldo !

Hey hey, don't you go messing with Crouchy!

He's quite clearly the best in the world and plays on with a broken nose!

Ibrahimovic is so far worse than Ronaldo and Van Basten

Ronaldo and Van Basten are genious, Ibrahimovic is just a free-styler like Ronaldinho

This swedish player is a bluff

It´s like compare Oleguer with Maldini