All posts re: the Italian Football Scandal (Moggipoli)

Originally Posted by Kui

And when were the dates??? None of us have determined or established this.

Well, its near impossible to determine when this all began. It could be since Moggi first joined Juve.

However, what has been established is that the recordings were take since last season, and so the sensible option would be if Juve are guilty, to strip them from last year's and this year's titles.

I still don't understand one thing, exactly what has Milan done to possibly get points deduction, other than Meani asking about dodgy linesmen.

I think this thread should probably be merged with the Moggi and Giraudo one, as it doesn't seem to discuss anything new.

Its not your English, its just what has been translated is very unclear. So he was asking about why these two "clever" linesmen were involved in our game?

Ok, yes, one of the linesmen, Puglisi, is accused to work for "a favourable result for Milan" by prosecutors, but there are no proof except phone call and Milan attorney said he is sure there will be no consequences. We'll see.

Originally Posted by BlackRedInferno

Ok, yes, one of the linesmen, Puglisi, is accused to work for "a favourable result for Milan" by prosecutors, but there are no proof except phone call and Milan attorney said he is sure there will be no consequences. We'll see.

Ah, now thats much clearer. Thanks

Whatever it is, serie A is over and Juve is handed the Scudetto.

Get ready for world cup, and time for exam.

Have fun chatting guys~~~

Whenever this alleged match fixing was, i can't see us being awarded any titles ... they will just be put down as null and void with no winner assigned. I also can't see Juventus being relegated to Serie B/C, at the moment it's all hype and speculation. What we want to happen and what will happen i suspect will be two completely different things.

Juve relegated? Yeah, right...

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

. I also can't see Juventus being relegated to Serie B/C, at the moment it's all hype and speculation. What we want to happen and what will happen i suspect will be two completely different things.

Maybe we are wrong but here in Italy there is a precise and clear sensation that Juventus will be relegated.
It is the worst scandal in italian soccer history.

Well, I hope you are right!

Originally Posted by Cowboy

According Planetfootball, Juventus will drop to Serie B next seaon!!

I would wait for the celebrations until a credible source claimed this. and them I talk about written in stone news, not speculations however likely.

I believe Leonardo Meani's involvement is discussed here :

http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/C...nchiesta.shtml

I've been told that he congratulated a linesman. If that's all there is to the story I doubt any action will be taken against Milan. There has to be proof that Meani met this official previously.

edit - seems I was a bit misinformed

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

A couple of points about these wild claims.

Juve is giving one half of the starting XI...er... Buffon, Zambrotta, Canna and Camoranesi.

That is not one half of a starting XI. Del Piero will only start if Totti does not.

Secondly...what Meani said is by no means more proof...hahaha...Moggi was asking for refs for CL game for God's sake!!!

Jeez take off those black and white tinted glasses. Many on here admit that if Milan have done something wrong they should be punished...you just keep trying to excuse Juve... albeit in a passive-aggressive manner.

Hasan, ok, it's not a half team..it's more than 1/3, but it is still not a peace of cake.
Moggi was asking for refs in CL .....hmmm, he asked who will be the ref, he didn't ask for a specific referee. And what the hell it has to do with Serie A ?
Guys, let's not misunderstand eachother..i'm not defending Moggi because i'm sure he was doing not allowed stuff.
My main point is this :
1. We have a dog
2. I ,as a Juve fan, am making a fly out of the dog
3. You as Milan fans are making an elephant out of the dog


I will answer few more posts now and then i would like to ask you guys to postpone this discussion for tomorrow. Our moods after todays matches are different, and it may lead to some not wanted arguments and harsh words. I wouldn't like something like that to happen, because i respect you all, and because i wouldn't like to spoil my celebrations because of some things , some guys we don't even know did !!

The next reply will be on Jeff

Silvio announced we will go for last 2 scudettos, and we should!

Originally Posted by BlackRedInferno

Ok, yes, one of the linesmen, Puglisi, is accused to work for "a favourable result for Milan" by prosecutors, but there are no proof except phone call and Milan attorney said he is sure there will be no consequences. We'll see.

That linesman screwed Milan over by dissallowing a valid goal against Siena.

Originally Posted by Tony 29

And Ok, Moggi was caught asking for refs for 2 friendly matches, you do have a right to acuse him....but if what you're saying above stands, then does it means what you were saying in last years about Moggi bying refs, was only lack of objectivity ?
You also didn't have proves, did u ?

I can see you have no knowledge what so ever then. I mean have you not read anything? What you mention here is only the FIRST thing printed. We have so many other things that it is silly. Only two friendlies? , Like the UCL games against Djrugården? Or what about when Moggi locked in Paparesta in his locker room and he didn't dare speak about that since he KNEW he would lose his job if he went against Moggi.

I don't have time to write about all the other examples. Don't you post them on Juventuz.com?