Winter Mercato

Livorno, Juventus and Torino have recruited very well. Livorno have made many solid signings with Rossini, Dhoroso and Tavano. The Lucarelli/Tavano combo unfront could push them in a spot for Europe.

Can anyone confirm whether Milan have Andrea Raggi in a co-ownership deal with Empoli?

last I read on Raggi was that Milan was very interested in him but we weren't the only club chasing him.
I don't think he is a Milan player yet, be that a full or co-ownership contarct.

Originally Posted by Graeme C

doesnt matter if its eto, tevez or Torres. There is a huge possibility that all of these players could fail in italy. Oliviera struggled, and to be honest its a gamble to play huge amounts for eto and him fail in seria A.

Also Barca might not want to sell mr Eto, so what do we do then?

So you sit down and dont sign any players since anyone could fail? Thats why you scout players. Obviously it could fail, buy you got to do your homework.
Milan didnt invest much in Oliveira, there wasnt any excitement at all with him arriving here.
On the other hand, we did spend some money on Gilardino and we didnt get what we expected, at least for now. Worst case: you lose some money selling him to Juve (or some random team).

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

We're starting to see the effects of the TV deal on the smaller clubs.

Livorno: Tavano and Dhorasoo.
Udinese invested pretty heavily in Quag.
Catania bought two Argentineans.

This says nothing. Two unknown Argentinians is something the smaller clubs have signed for years. Dhorasoo is in most likelyhood a free transfer, Udinese only want Quagli because he can bring them bigger bucks. so out of the ones you mentioned I geuss only Tavano may be a investment, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is a loan deal...

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

I beg to differ...I thought we bought both Helveg and Bierhoff from Udinese when we got Zacc, who was coming off a good season with both players as coach of Udinese...but I could be wrong...

From all reliable sources I heard Capello was the one who wanted Bierhoff and Bierhoff was our first transfer... Zaccheroni had Helveg first on the list of players he wanted...

Originally Posted by kris

This says nothing. Two unknown Argentinians is something the smaller clubs have signed for years. Dhorasoo is in most likelyhood a free transfer, Udinese only want Quagli because he can bring them bigger bucks. so out of the ones you mentioned I geuss only Tavano may be a investment, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is a loan deal...



From all reliable sources I heard Capello was the one who wanted Bierhoff and Bierhoff was our first transfer... Zaccheroni had Helveg first on the list of players he wanted...

Wrong.

Bizzarri and Llama are not unknown Argentineans. I had heard of them a while back, and they are rated in Argentina. Obviously not superstars, but not "unknown" either.

I don't know if Dhorasoo is a free transfer, but Tavano is quite a coup. The smaller clubs are going to have fresh funds available for some serious transfers. Quag is another indication that Serie A is slowly (long way to go yet) moving towards a level playing field. Some clubs will see their transfer money quarupled in the next few years.

By the way Bizzarri has plyed his trade at Real Madrid (backup), Valladolid and Gimnastic.

The TV deals starts for the 2007/08 season for many clubs. I cannot remember Livorno moving so enthusiastically in the market.

Let's get started early:

Milan are rumoured to be making a 36 million bid for Drogba (Corriere).

compare with 24m for henry, do you think the news is true?

Originally Posted by Sleep

compare with 24m for henry, do you think the news is true?

I think its a lot of money and I don't know what his wages are but all in all he´s a player we could use to the fullest, strong, fairly good with the ball and pretty fast, at least compared to Gila and Pippo! maybe not as exotic like someone from Brazil or Argentina but we know what we would get with Drogba! In my opinion a guy like Fred from Lyon would be acceptable to do anyone know how old he is?

Originally Posted by zlatanov

quite frankly, I know close to nothing about the guy ... his daddy was something special though
from what I know the son isn't even Levski's starting GK but is more of a young prospect coming thru the youth ranks ... so Pool must have seen something in him ... somehow

If they are going for him, he is either really good ... or his agent is a magician

Well, I think it's the second option.
Let me give you some info about Nikolay Mihailov.
He's 19 and he is (or was already...) even the 3rd GK in Levski. He's been known like a problematic person. He is more famous about what he was doing out of the field than on the pitch. Just like Adriano he loves the discoteques. He also had some minor car crashes. He's been often fined and even excluded from the squad.
He's girlfriend is a former Playboy star.
On the field he was very very poor and the fans always booed him.

So I'm not sure that L'pool are fully aware with what they will deal But who knows, may be this will be the turning point for him
Deffinately he has skills, but his temper...

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Wrong.

Eh, no.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Bizzarri and Llama are not unknown Argentineans. I had heard of them a while back, and they are rated in Argentina. Obviously not superstars, but not "unknown" either.

They are pretty unknown, a few may have heard of Bizzari, not even I with all my football following and CM playing know who Llama is. Hardly the stuff of legends. Now if you could come up with some juicy transfer sums then that could support your argument.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

I don't know if Dhorasoo is a free transfer, but Tavano is quite a coup.

Yeah, which was what I said, Tavano is the only "coup/big" transfer out of the one mentioned and it hardly shows anything of a trend. Dhorasoo was free: http://it.eurosport.yahoo.com/270620...-dhorasoo.html

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

The smaller clubs are going to have fresh funds available for some serious transfers.

The relative small money we talk about is hardly enough to cover their huge debts and large deficits. Udinese is the only club not in red in serie A. to then talk about "serious transfers" is a quantum leap.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Quag is another indication that Serie A is slowly (long way to go yet) moving towards a level playing field.

Udinese and Sampdoria halfowned him. Udinese wanted him just so they could sell him for a profit. There is even talk about them doing that this summer, but more likely next. Udinese is the only club with green figures because they always sell their stars. I'll easily bet you 1000€ that Quagliarella will leave before next transfer season is over if he doesn't play like crap next year. Nope, he will end up (and more or less are) just another sign that the big fish will eat the small fish.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Some clubs will see their transfer money quarupled in the next few years.

Highly doubtful statment based on nothing unless you actually cough up some figures. This by the way was how Lazio went more or less bankrupt, they spent money they thought they would get in the future.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

By the way Bizzarri has plyed his trade at Real Madrid (backup), Valladolid and Gimnastic.

Being second/third choice keeper in Real Madrid is nothing special. How many third keepers in the big clubs do we even know of? How many second choice do even know off?

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

The TV deals starts for the 2007/08 season for many clubs. I cannot remember Livorno moving so enthusiastically in the market.

Livorno have some semi-ambition. But one serie A team buying one €6M player is hardly a trend or sign of things to come.

Milan and Inter are both competing for Maresca, but Milan are favourites as Inter prefer Diarra. Also the report on tuttomercatoweb say he would be the ideal partner for Pirlo and gattuso. Plus he started playing in the Milan youth team, so he will help when the Uefa rules change.


Inter e Milan si starebbero sfidando per il centrocampista Enzo Maresca del Siviglia. Il ventisettenne regista salernitano, che sta vivendo un periodo molto felice della sua carriera in Andalucia, è molto gradito a Roberto Mancini, ed è considerato dai rossoneri partner ideale di Pirlo e Gattuso per implementare il valore del blocco di centrocampo dei rossoneri. Maresca è valutato circa dieci milioni di Euro dal Siviglia, e, se il presidente andaluso Del Nido accetterà di trattare la cessione del giocatore, il Milan sembrerebbe favorito, visto che l'Inter per il centrocampo è concentrata a trattare Diarra del Real Madrid.

according to some news, Real has made a new Kaka bid: Emerson + Baptista + P50M for Kaka.

Old news. Same reply from Milan -Big NO, and P off.

That bid is worse than the last one we heard from as.