mzk57

mzk57 · 12-05-2007, 07:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWTaylor

Maldini...well, what better way to retire than on top?
...........................
Dida...he knows he may be granted immunity the rest of his Milan career if, in the match, he reminds the planet why he was once mentioned in the same breath as Buffon.

Point less post

Plus those who don't wana c Paolo Maldini playing for 2 more season r not AC Milan fans

The true fans want him leave football after winning the 18th Scudetto for ACM

mzk57 · 12-05-2007, 08:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWTaylor

And I'm sure he also knows not to confuse Bobby Charlton with Bobby Moore.

Young ppl confusing Bobby Charlton with Bobby Moore is nothing

(bcoz both of them played some 40 years ago

) compared to the confusion OLD PPL make with Cech and dida

by comparing dida

with Buffon. The whole world knows that there is only 1 gk whose name could be mentioned in the same breath as Buffon and that gk is Cech

& by the way Cech is not a bald-headed giant

He is a brave GK

Samuca · 12-05-2007, 10:47

Just remembering that São Paulo (brazilian team) is the team that most borned players in this final: Cafú, Fábio Aurélio and Kaká

Tony29. · 13-05-2007, 12:57

Tony29 and his trivia again

1 This is the 5th time in Champions League/Cup history the same 2 teams to play against eachother again in the final. And it's the 3rd time for Milan to play the final against a team they already played against in some other final before.

1955/56 Real Madrid-Reims 4:3 ( in Paris)
1958/59 Real Madrid-Reims 2:0 ( In Stuttgart)

1962/63 Milan-Benfica 2:1 (London)
1989/90 Milan-Benfica 1:0 ( Vienna)

1968/69 Milan-Ajax 4:1 (Madrid)
1994/95 Milan-Ajax 0:1 (Vienna)

1972/73 Ajax-Juventus 1:0 ( Belgrade)
1995/96 Ajax-Juventus 1:1, 2:4 pen ( Rome)

2004/05 Liverpool-Milan 3:3 , 3:2 pen (Istanbul)
2006/07 Liverpool-Milan ????????? (Athens)

Twice the same team won both matches, twice both teams won one final each.

2 This is the 5th final played in the Balcans, and for the 5th time there is an Italian team playing.
Juve lost both finals in the Balcans ( against HSV in Athens and Ajax in Belgrade) . Milan won one final in Athens and lost one in Istanbul.

3 This is Milan's 11th final in CL/CC ( European 2nd best record). Milan won 6 and lost 4 finals.
This is only the second time Milan plays a CL final against an English team, and for the second time it's Liverpool.

For Liverpool this is their 7th final. They won 5 and lost only one final so far.
This is Liverpool's 4th final against an Italian team. So far they won 2 finals against the Italians in 1984 & 2005 and their only defeat in CL finals came exactly against an Italian team in 1985.

4 In Previous 10 CL/CC finals Milan scored 20 goals and conceded 10.
It makes 2 goals scored per match and 1 goal per match conceded.

In previous 6 finals Liverpool scored 9 goals and conceded 6 .
It's 1.5 goals per match scored and exactly 1 goal conceded per match

5 In their 10 previous finals, Milan had to play extra time on 3 of them. Once Milan was defeated in the extra time, once they were defeated on penalties and once they won on penalties.

Liverpool had to play extra time twice and both times they won on penalties. Both times against Italian teams

6 Milan never lost 2 finals in a row, NEVER.
The first final in 1958 was lost, then 4 finals were won in a row and after that it goes lost-won-lost-won-lost- ? ...... Is there a pattern here and will Milan's next final be won ?

Just like Milan, Liverpool won 4 finals in a row, and after that it goes lost-won- ? ...... Lost again ?

7 And finally :
This is the 24th final where at least one Italian team plays. Italians won 10 of these finals.
This is only the 4th final Italian teams play against an English team and unbelievably, for the 4th time it's the same English team - Liverpool. Like i already mentioned, 1 win and 2 defeats in the finals for the Italians against the English

This is the 14th final for one English team. In previous 13 finals English teams have a pretty good record with 10 wins and only 3 defeats.

GL

bosnian_acfan · 13-05-2007, 15:08

Just one question.... Who holds the record of most finals played in CL/CC if Milan with their eleven is 2nd best?

zlatanov · 13-05-2007, 15:14

Real M with 13, I think

Vadim · 13-05-2007, 15:15

Real Madrid has played in 12 finals, winning 9.

rome1977 · 13-05-2007, 16:56

Tony, fascinating data, thank you for posting it.

It would seem that the historic data significantly gives Liverpool the upper hand.

Rayno_acm · 14-05-2007, 00:40

rome1977, I don't think so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony29.

...6 Milan never lost 2 finals in a row, NEVER.
The first final in 1958 was lost, then 4 finals were won in a row and after that it goes lost-won-lost-won-lost- ? ...... Is there a pattern here and will Milan's next final be won ?

Just like Milan, Liverpool won 4 finals in a row, and after that it goes lost-won- ? ...... Lost again ?

...

How about that, a?

curry chicken · 14-05-2007, 11:18

Something that's brightened up my day..and it came from Platini of all people, go figure.

UEFA: New look for final ceremonies
Monday, 14 May 2007

There will be a new, yet also time-honoured and traditional, look to the trophy ceremonies at UEFA's two big forthcoming club showcases - the UEFA Cup final in Glasgow on Wednesday and the UEFA Champions League final in Athens on 23 May. In this article, UEFA President Michel Platini explains why the winning teams will climb the steps to receive the respective trophies at the end of each final.

..."The winners will climb steps to receive the trophy amid the crowd of fans, the football people, those who are loyal to the game. Football is being restored to its rightful place - its heroes are being returned to the crowd, the winners are united with the fans in the grandstand, rather than the fans merely watching events on the big screen. Following the victory, the trophy, and the emotion...

OH and 9 DAYS TIL ATHENS...

Tony29. · 14-05-2007, 14:15

To cheer you up

http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/in...d0efdcaabbebdc

curry chicken · 14-05-2007, 15:26

Oh Tony.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maradona (10)

And next time we reach the UCL final, DO NOT TOUCH THE TROPHY!!!

I clearly have too much time these days, as I've finally brought myself to watch 'One Night In May' or as I like to call it, 'Istanbul Sucked A**'. And there one of the Liverpool players mentions how Garcia asked them not to touch the coppa, and when he saw Kaka and Sheva pat the cup, it gave him a hint of hope. I don't know about you guys, but am starting to beleive in the warning. Should we send out a message to the boys in Italy?

kastriot · 14-05-2007, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony29.

To cheer you up

http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/in...d0efdcaabbebdc

OMG....

+ rep

Hasan Rossonero · 14-05-2007, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony29.

To cheer you up

http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/in...d0efdcaabbebdc

zlatanov · 14-05-2007, 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony29.

To cheer you up

http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/in...d0efdcaabbebdc

haha, nice one Tony Spielberg.
I would gladly post that on our beloved forza-inter but I am affraid I would get banned, no questions asked ... and I have a feeling I would many reasons to go back there in the near future

13-05-2007, 12:57	#469
Tony29. Registered User Join Date: 09 2006 Location: South Slavia	Tony29 and his trivia again 1 This is the 5th time in Champions League/Cup history the same 2 teams to play against eachother again in the final. And it's the 3rd time for Milan to play the final against a team they already played against in some other final before. 1955/56 Real Madrid-Reims 4:3 ( in Paris) 1958/59 Real Madrid-Reims 2:0 ( In Stuttgart) 1962/63 Milan-Benfica 2:1 (London) 1989/90 Milan-Benfica 1:0 ( Vienna) 1968/69 Milan-Ajax 4:1 (Madrid) 1994/95 Milan-Ajax 0:1 (Vienna) 1972/73 Ajax-Juventus 1:0 ( Belgrade) 1995/96 Ajax-Juventus 1:1, 2:4 pen ( Rome) 2004/05 Liverpool-Milan 3:3 , 3:2 pen (Istanbul) 2006/07 Liverpool-Milan ????????? (Athens) Twice the same team won both matches, twice both teams won one final each. 2 This is the 5th final played in the Balcans, and for the 5th time there is an Italian team playing. Juve lost both finals in the Balcans ( against HSV in Athens and Ajax in Belgrade) . Milan won one final in Athens and lost one in Istanbul. 3 This is Milan's 11th final in CL/CC ( European 2nd best record). Milan won 6 and lost 4 finals. This is only the second time Milan plays a CL final against an English team, and for the second time it's Liverpool. For Liverpool this is their 7th final. They won 5 and lost only one final so far. This is Liverpool's 4th final against an Italian team. So far they won 2 finals against the Italians in 1984 & 2005 and their only defeat in CL finals came exactly against an Italian team in 1985. 4 In Previous 10 CL/CC finals Milan scored 20 goals and conceded 10. It makes 2 goals scored per match and 1 goal per match conceded. In previous 6 finals Liverpool scored 9 goals and conceded 6 . It's 1.5 goals per match scored and exactly 1 goal conceded per match 5 In their 10 previous finals, Milan had to play extra time on 3 of them. Once Milan was defeated in the extra time, once they were defeated on penalties and once they won on penalties. Liverpool had to play extra time twice and both times they won on penalties. Both times against Italian teams 6 Milan never lost 2 finals in a row, NEVER. The first final in 1958 was lost, then 4 finals were won in a row and after that it goes lost-won-lost-won-lost- ? ...... Is there a pattern here and will Milan's next final be won ? Just like Milan, Liverpool won 4 finals in a row, and after that it goes lost-won- ? ...... Lost again ? 7 And finally : This is the 24th final where at least one Italian team plays. Italians won 10 of these finals. This is only the 4th final Italian teams play against an English team and unbelievably, for the 4th time it's the same English team - Liverpool. Like i already mentioned, 1 win and 2 defeats in the finals for the Italians against the English This is the 14th final for one English team. In previous 13 finals English teams have a pretty good record with 10 wins and only 3 defeats. GL __________________ People always call it luck when you've acted more sensibly than they have

13-05-2007, 15:08	#470
bosnian_acfan Registered User Join Date: 06 2006 Location: sarajevo, bosnia herzegovina Fave Players: Kaka, Maldini	Just one question.... Who holds the record of most finals played in CL/CC if Milan with their eleven is 2nd best? __________________ FORZA MILAN!!

13-05-2007, 15:14	#471
zlatanov Moderator Join Date: 07 2003 Location: Nowhere near San Siro :( Fave Players: Zinedine Zidane, Genarro Gattuso, Alessandro Nesta	Real M with 13, I think __________________ "Everyone creates his own luck" - Carlo Ancelotti

14-05-2007, 11:18	#475
curry chicken Registered User Join Date: 01 2007 Location: Toronto	Something that's brightened up my day..and it came from Platini of all people, go figure. UEFA: New look for final ceremonies Monday, 14 May 2007 There will be a new, yet also time-honoured and traditional, look to the trophy ceremonies at UEFA's two big forthcoming club showcases - the UEFA Cup final in Glasgow on Wednesday and the UEFA Champions League final in Athens on 23 May. In this article, UEFA President Michel Platini explains why the winning teams will climb the steps to receive the respective trophies at the end of each final. ..."The winners will climb steps to receive the trophy amid the crowd of fans, the football people, those who are loyal to the game. Football is being restored to its rightful place - its heroes are being returned to the crowd, the winners are united with the fans in the grandstand, rather than the fans merely watching events on the big screen. Following the victory, the trophy, and the emotion... OH and 9 DAYS TIL ATHENS... Last edited by curry chicken; 14-05-2007 at 11:23.

14-05-2007, 14:15	#476
Tony29. Registered User Join Date: 09 2006 Location: South Slavia	To cheer you up http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/in...d0efdcaabbebdc __________________ People always call it luck when you've acted more sensibly than they have

12-05-2007, 10:47	#468
Samuca Registered User Join Date: 03 2007	Just remembering that São Paulo (brazilian team) is the team that most borned players in this final: Cafú, Fábio Aurélio and Kaká

13-05-2007, 15:15	#472
Vadim Moderator Join Date: 11 2005 Location: Chicago Fave Players: San Paolo	Real Madrid has played in 12 finals, winning 9.

13-05-2007, 16:56	#473
rome1977 Registered User Join Date: 05 2007	Tony, fascinating data, thank you for posting it. It would seem that the historic data significantly gives Liverpool the upper hand.

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