Milan Want Ronaldinho

Originally Posted by mrki

Agents are the ones who take a large procent of transfer deal that they seal. To be honest, its not love that connects Ronaldinho and Milan, its money.

Well, that's it Mrki !
We don't know if Moratti will offer 10 M more to Dinho, 20 M more to Barcelona and another 5 M more to his brother.

He can do it, you know. His team is covered on every single position and he can spend all the transfer money on Dinho.
Berlusconi can also match any offer but his team needs covering many more positions, not to mention the bench.
If Berlu buys Dinho than i'm pretty sure he won't buy more players, and is he ready to do so ?

Till now many things point on Dinho joining Milan if he leaves Barcelona. But till now Inter wasn't interested in him. Now they're joining the race and many things may change.

We don't need to blow money on Ronaldinho when we have Kaka. No to Ronaldinho.

I will repeat once more...Buying Dinho is not matter of how much quality will he bring to us,or do we really need him,his considered to be the best at the moment..And his the only one who can bring us back the image that we lost during the summer... and bring back the supporters to san siro..Which looks really terrible at the moment...scary..I would say..We used to have 60000 + seasonal tickets sold..thats huge.. And ronaldinho is a guarantee that that will happen again.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Sure, you have a point, but many many things will change till June and we can only speculate for now.
I still think money will be the main reason for Dinho and Barcelona chosing a club.
If Zambrotta really prefered Milan then he could have also forced Juve to sell them there. But a good money offer changed his mind. Dinho should be no different. Buy 1-2 more Brazilians, sell 1-2 Argentinians and problem's solved for Inter regarding that issue.

And like i said, many many things may change and they all may influence his decission.
Who'll win the CL ? Will Milan play CL ? Will Milan have to play CLQ and make Dinho wait until late August with his decission to join them ? Won't it be safer to accept the better money offer from Inter in June allready ? What will happen after the latest scandal in serie A ? How many Brazilians will be left in Milan if Oliveira, Cafu,Serginho and Dida all leave this summer ?

Many unknowns for now ! Things will be much clear in June/July and only then we'll know how big the chances of Dinho going to Italy are !

that's true many things can change but I think we agree that a lot depends on the player and his agent and Milan, as mrki mentioned, has spend this last year on prepping this transfer by constantly having Dinho or his brother, or both, over in Milan for whatever occasion - Albertini's testimonial, the Oliveira transfer and so on.

As for Zambrotta, I guess Milan was indeed his first choice but he hardly had anything against going to Barca, the newly crowned CL champs, either ... for him it was a win-win situation really and whatever the outcome, it was all good ... also Milan seems to had put that transfer, like all other transfers, on hold awaiting the calciopoli decisions and the outcome from the CL qualifiers too, which basically removed all questions marks Zambro might have had about his future team .

true, many Brazilains at Milan will leave this summer - Cafu for sure and most probably Dida and Serginho too (I expect to see at least one of these two leave). but Milan has decided to stick with their project on having a team with Italian-Brazilian connection in its's core and half ofthe players we are interested in are Brazilians, the other half are Italians, so at least 2-3 new such players would come in the next 1-2 years.

One improtant point, however, Dinho's buy-out clause is set at around 100 mil euros and all we have to do is pay it to the Spanish Federeationa and get Dinho - like Moratti did with Ronaldo 8-9 years ago. All you need for this to happen is Dinho's desire to play for Milan - hardly a secret to anyone really - and 100 mil deposit ... no need to compete with crazy offers from Inter of 150 mil or whatever ... which makes me wander how true are these rumours of Moratti being after Dinho and why would he offer 150 mil if 100 mil would be enough to get him without any negotiations with Barac whatsoever ... it's not like he would have any moral issues to stop him cause that's exactly what he did with Ronie whan he snatched him under their nose for that measerly 27 mil US.

Well, like Rahul said......Moratti is nowhere as rich as Berlusconi, but that won't make a difference because they are both businessmen. They won't go out on a bidding war and spend their whole treasure. If we want Ronaldinho and they want Ronaldinho then both teams will bid as much as possible to assure contract negotiations with him. After that, it will pretty much be up to who offers him more, which I think would basically be the same ammount of offer anyway with very very little differences. Which of course in the end the whole transfer will come to 'Dinho's decision. And let's put it this way.......if he is dumb enough to pick Inter over Milan.........then he deserves to be in a team with stupid people.
Let's be real however...........he would be 10 times more excited to play alongside kaka(concidered arguably right behind 'Dinho in the world) then alongside Stankovic or Adriano.

Besides, 'Dinho has a point to prove to Dunga.........that he can play along Kaka and they can produce wonders together. Also having Ronaldo in Milan now also helps and as mentioned Berlu's close relations with his brother. Oliveira is also in Milan as well as Dida, who I think will stay.

And the last theory...........Berlu will probably smack Moratti in the back of his head and tell him to back off anyway. So there is nothing to warry about.

I honestly cant see how ppl think Dhino will end up at Inter, Milan has everything to offer him. Would you rather play with players from Argentina or Brazil? He could improve his game, not to mention K22 R9 and R10 would destroy any one infront of them.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I still think money will be the main reason for Dinho and Barcelona chosing a club.

1st, Barcelona can not decide a destination, they can only decide a acceptable transferfee. Destination is up to Ronaldinho and in that case I think the pendelum weights heavily in our favour.

I think Ronaldingo will listen to Kaka and Ronaldo's plea to "come on over to the other side" --Clearly the advantage goes to Milan.

The tide is turning, and the true Giants(Milan) are the ones who really have the power to persuad once they set their minds on a player.

(But I still wish they would solve the problems conserning the main goalkeeper, I hope it's still Buffon on their wish list.)
And I think Marco Storari is great choice, a cool player. I hope he gets some playing time and can wear his trademark pink flamboyant goalie shirt!-He is pure Hardcore!!!
Peace to all

Originally Posted by kris

1st, Barcelona can not decide a destination, they can only decide a acceptable transferfee. Destination is up to Ronaldinho and in that case I think the pendelum weights heavily in our favour.

He can prefer some club but it's all useless if Barcelona won't agree to sell him there !
And i allready said twice how everything depends on how things will stand in June-August.
Will he chose Milan if Milan plays UEFA Cup next year ?
Atm i agree with all of you that IF he leaves Barcelona his next club should be Milan. But it's January still.

Originally Posted by Zlatanov

As for Zambrotta, I guess Milan was indeed his first choice but he hardly had anything against going to Barca, the newly crowned CL champs, either ... for him it was a win-win situation really and whatever the outcome, it was all good ... also Milan seems to had put that transfer, like all other transfers, on hold awaiting the calciopoli decisions and the outcome from the CL qualifiers too, which basically removed all questions marks Zambro might have had about his future team

Exactly. Now change the name Zambrotta to Dinho and you'll get another logical sentence :

As for Dinho, i guess Milan was indeed his first choice but he hardly had anything against going to Inter, the newly crowned CL champs, either...for him it was a win-win situation and whatever the outcome, it was all good...also Milan seems to had put that transfer, like all other transfers, on hold awaiting the outcome of CL qualifiers, too, which basically removed all question marks Dinho might have had about his future team.

Don't underestimate Inter. They are not the same team from last years. They are as strong as Milan and Juve were in last 10 years.
And they can win the CL , because they have the team, the atmosphere, and with the newcomers they got the winners mentality to achieve that.
They can be as attractive as any other team !

Milan may be the prefered destination now, but Inter may be in June.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Exactly. Now change the name Zambrotta to Dinho and you'll get another logical sentence :

As for Dinho, i guess Milan was indeed his first choice but he hardly had anything against going to Inter, the newly crowned CL champs, either...for him it was a win-win situation and whatever the outcome, it was all good...also Milan seems to had put that transfer, like all other transfers, on hold awaiting the outcome of CL qualifiers, too, which basically removed all question marks Dinho might have had about his future team.

Don't underestimate Inter. They are not the same team from last years. They are as strong as Milan and Juve were in last 10 years.
And they can win the CL , because they have the team, the atmosphere, and with the newcomers they got the winners mentality to achieve that.
They can be as attractive as any other team !

Milan may be the prefered destination now, but Inter may be in June.

It looks very easy and comfortable to just sub in a name but that's hardly how these things work and you know what's the problem with it - sub in ANY name in the above text and it would work, on paper that is ... in reality, there are many different factors that make one transfer different from another because, while for Zambro going to Barca with Milan stalling (and probably Juve favouring Spain too) was a no-brainer, in Ronaldinho's case all those factors that were mentioned before would indeed play a major role - the Milan-Brazil connection, the Inter-Argentina connection, the fact that Milan management are so tight with Dinho's brother, the fact that Milan have been working towards making this deal happen from quite some time now, inviting Dinho to testimonials and dinners and whatnot, not to mention that an odd year of success at Inter could hardly compare with the image Milan and Juve or ManU have created for themselves over the past decade or two (legends aren't created overnight, I guess) ... you see, these factors are what makes the difference and withe them in play, just plugging in a name is no longer viable.

Sure, if Milan at some point in time decide that it's not worth paying so much money for one player and withdraw from the negotiations, that leaves Dinho with basically 3 possibilities - Chelski, Inter and Real (unlikely for obvious reasons) as these are the only clubs who could afford him right now. So, then yeah, Inter does become real contender for his signature, but with Milan and those factors above still in the game, Inter are not a contender, they are "an option", a back-up plan ... that's not what Barca were for Zambro given the circumstances of his transfer.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

He can prefer some club but it's all useless if Barcelona won't agree to sell him there !

and he won't go to another team if he doesn't want too. Check Ronaldo to Milan, a Egyptian(?) club offered Real €20M for him. That is three times the money we offered this far, but what use is that to them if Ronaldo doesn't want to go there? None I say. We could also mention Gilardino...

Originally Posted by kris

and he won't go to another team if he doesn't want too. Check Ronaldo to Milan, a Egyptian(?) club offered Real €20M for him. That is three times the money we offered this far, but what use is that to them if Ronaldo doesn't want to go there? None I say. We could also mention Gilardino...

kris, it's both parties that should accept the offer, yes. But i think i explained very well why Dinho may accept another offer.
You can't compare some Arab team with Inter !

Originally Posted by zlatanov

Inter could hardly compare with the image Milan and Juve or ManU have created for themselves over the past decade or two (legends aren't created overnight, I guess) ... you see, these factors are what makes the difference and withe them in play, just plugging in a name is no longer viable.

Zlat, i said when and how can Inter be an option. I agreed that it's Milan the favourite atm, but the situation in the summer will be decissive.
Buffon wanted to join Milan is what we hear. But the current situation made him stay in Juve. There were most probably talks with Buffon and his agent. He didn't want to go to Milan just like that.
Many things can happen and will happen till June that may as well convince Dinho to stay with Barcelona and all those testemonials and dinners won't worth a penny.

And the image talks are just stories we Juve or Milan fans hear and believe.
How many top class players have joined Inter ? Why would the likes of Vieri, Baggio, Vieira, Crespo, Figo, Ronaldo join Inter in the past ? Inter were much bigger losers and underachievers back then and i'm yet to hear a top class player rejecting them and prefering someone else because the other team has better image than Inter.
It's all money, and i'm sure about that.


And another thing at the end !
Do you think if Milan won't play CL Dinho will come to Milan ?
If your answer is NO, then answer me this :
Can someone influence the standings ? I'm sure you think Moggi influenced the standings because he had the power.
Who has the power now ? If he's also interested in Dinho, can he make Milan end in 5th place ?
It's not very probable theory, but it's a proof that many factors may influence Dinho's decission in June.
And in June i won't be suprised if he'll forget all the dinners and his agent's promises and chose Inter.

You know i'd hate to see Dinho in Milan, but much more in Inter. It's a normal thing.
But why am i the only one who's seeing Inter as a great opponent to Milan for Dinho's signature, i can't understand yet

Coz you are not a Milanista as we are Once you become Diavolo, you'll see why we dont consider Inter as serious club!

Originally Posted by mrki

Coz you are not a Milanista as we are Once you become Diavolo, you'll see why we dont consider Inter as serious club!

I'm a Juve fan and i also know them pretty well. They deserved to be underestimated because they were inferior to us in the past.
But at this moment Milan, and Juve much much more, are not even close to them. They are classes better than us, and they are showing that.
We can't live in the past and be blind to what's happening.
They are one of the best 3 teams in Europe now. They are the Hit, they are the record breakers, they have the money --- only a die hard Juve or Milan fan could reject them, and 99.999% of the football players aren't Milanistas or Juventini !