All posts re: the Italian Football Scandal (Moggipoli)

Originally Posted by BlackRedInferno

No, Moggi didn't ask, Moggi decided, I'm sure of what I say, I'm Italian and I read and completely understood all phone calls.

thank you..I can speak and understand Italian to a certain degree and I concur.

Originally Posted by Tony 29

Simple question and give me a simple answer, if you want :

Do you honestly believe Milan was not into this ?
You don't have to answer to me...answer yourself !

I don't have to prove to myself that Milan was also guilty. I know they were also guilty !

My answer is "I do not know".
What I do know is that you are trying to take us with you for the ride. I know you must feel terrible... that is why I think you are here, but hang on, you must want to feel better by taking it onto us now. Please feel free to tell me I am wrong, I have been wrong many times and I will admit it when I know I am.
If you are right then Serie A should be scrapped. Just because of several managers who were used to their Italian ways of running business. All right ... it will be fine with me if you guys cannot play fair.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

.you know kissing a little ass here and there but .

Yes, kissing your asses brought a lot to me and my family, and although i'm a little ashamed, i must addmit it was worthed !

Terribile idea of mine to join your forum.
I knew i will always be attacked, even with using faul language from some of you, which i never did nor intended to do.

Fans will never be prepared to accept the truth if the truth hurts. You are all ( except for 1-2 of you) not prepared !

Nice meeting you all, good luck in your life and with your club, but i will leave your comunity here. Not a damage for nether of us, and i'm aware that many of you will be happy when i'll leave.
It was great fun here, and thanks for that. But i'm leaving you. I will never write nor i will read this forum again....

Plus, you didn't even congratulated me for the well deserved tittle today.

Don't bother to answer me...i won't be here to read it.
Tony 29 leaves with the 29th....

Cheers guys, and please ask some administrator to delete my account !

You can go away and DIE!

Originally Posted by GRE-NO-LI

You can go away and DIE!

Come on, let's be polite...
Think about how a juventino is feeling now...
It's normal, every juventino is trying to take us with them.
Serie B is so near for them

Originally Posted by GRE-NO-LI

You can go away and DIE!

whoa man easy!!

Originally Posted by GRE-NO-LI

You can go away and DIE!

I don't agree with Tony either and honestly think his arguments are desperate, but think before posting, as this could quite easily get you banned, and so soon after you came back.

Tony, if you come to a forum aimed at an opposing team's fans, you have to expect some people will treat you with a little disdain (I'd expect it at an Inter or Juve forum), as it is unfortunately the way people are. The majority here haven't shown you any disrespect and only 2 or 3 members have really shown any hostility to you for being a Juve fan (out of 1000s of posters). The fact is, most posters here are actually quite respectful to opposing team posters.

Also, your posts have all been about a sensitive topic, where you have repeatedly claimed that Milan are more guilty than Juve of match fixing, which quite frankly is utter rubbish (you provide some VERY vague evidence against Milan and twist Juve's situation to place blame purely on Moggi). I just wonder what kind of reactions you'd expect at such ridiculous claims.

Simply put, you haven't broken the rules and have generally avoided personal issues in arguments, and so you're welcome to post. If you wish to leave, then thats your choice and I bid you farewell.

To the guy who send me private message (not Tony):

No one here is trying to ban a MM fellow here. While I appreciate the fact that you keep the conversation private, I would be extremely appreciative the next time you send me a message with some tone of respect.

I have given you mine.

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Tony: I don't know how you come to the conclusion that Milan is also in this "deep" s**t. What we count is evidence. Perhaps, we interpret the evidence in different ways, in such case I respect your interpretation.

But, if Moggi has been extremely good at hiding match fixing (and this is an 'if') and yet got 'discovered', I don't see how Galliani or Berlusconi can do a better job than Moggi (in terms of hiding the truth).

And finally, Milan has immediately made a clear statement on the website. Galliani and the club's lawyer may well be lying, but when you do a little analysis, you know that the stack for lying right now is much bigger than confessing. Why? Because that Meani can easily denounce Gallini. He can just say, "Yes, Galliani gave me the instruction to fix matches".

Having said, it's difficult to figure out exactly what the truth is, but my answer to your question is clear: I have total faith in Milan's management, given the years of success they have brought to the club as well as their management policy. Having tried to influence games by means of ref is totally against the club's philosophy. There is simply no reason why they want to do that.

And, finally,do you think Berlusconi will be stupid enough to raise the stack and appear innoncent when he says, "Give us back the 2 years of Scudetto"?

Perhaps you can also ask yourself this, and you don't need to answer me:

"Do you seriously believe that milan is in the same deep s**t as Juventus?"

I am pissed off that all the games that I have got excited about over the years have probably been all rigged

If we got punished in the 1980s, why can't juve be punished and sent to serie B

btw tony 27,

-hasan had mentioned no offence to you in the first place so.......
-he is probably the most modest guy here so he really didn't mean that you shud leave.
-I am also at the forza-inter.com forum and beleive me I have a much better time there coz ppl respect you when you speak the truth. Some members do abuse me but at the end, they turn out to be good friends. U r having a much better time here than u wud have had at the other milan forum or the inter forum.
-come back, if u have left the forum coz of ME, I'm not begging for it tho

good point...milan was relegated in the 80's , fiorentina was relegated some time ago for money reason , to me the standard has already been set. If juve are not heavily punished it reflects worse on the league as a whole.....To me Juve at least looses their last 2-3 titles , heavy fines and trade embargo.....becuase apparently phone calls were also recorded with player agents about fees and compensation.....I think this can be a record setting judgement

Ok...easy people....before i have to start editting posts....

I hate juve just as much as anyone in here....but football is football...and let's leave it there....tony has brought about points in a very respectful manner here so far......thus no need for us to jump on him ...... He respect our forum , we respect him...let's keep it that way.....although points and views may differ at the end we are all football fans....

if juve goes to B can we get zambrotta? :P

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

if juve goes to B can we get zambrotta? :P

and Buffon please