Striker worthy the place of Andriy Shevchenko

Originally Posted by zlatanov

there's too many "I wish" in there
Germans are germans, when it matters the most they play at their best. The Italians are the exact opposite. That 4-1 was an accident that will hardly repeat itself again in the next decade or so even in friendlies, let alone in serious WC games

Do not take friendlies before WC so seriously too, but I think Italy has a clear edge against Germany if they meet in semifinal. And at every part of the pitch (keeper, defense, midfield and attack).
It's just one game and everything can happen in a space of just 90/120 minutes, but, in my modest opinion, Italy is favourite. They "just" need to beat Ukraine first...

Originally Posted by zlatanov

there's too many "I wish" in there
Germans are germans, when it matters the most they play at their best. The Italians are the exact opposite. That 4-1 was an accident that will hardly repeat itself again in the next decade or so even in friendlies, let alone in serious WC games

well, let's see for ourselves. the italians does look much better overall compared to the germans. The italians love creating very clear cut chances by bringing the ball right in front the goal before putting in the net while the germans love long crosses and long shots. i have a feeling that these long shots would be useless against the italian defence while the german defence still look as weak as always. defence is the key.

Sheva still look good as always in the game though.....Tevez seem to be capable of replacing him though but is there any chance for us to get him?

Originally Posted by Oldman

I just watched Germany - Argentina match and found that the Referee was so clearly on the German side.
Look at Rodrigues being tackled so obviously in the 2nd part of the extra time but Argentina didn't get it!!

It is absolutely a "commercialized game" to favour Germany to win the match!!
Germany should be very ashame to have the victory as overall the Argentinians played much better football and just robbed the victory by the referee.

If Italy win the match against Ukraine then German will face Italy and I still remember when Italy totally killed Germany in a friendly in Florence by 4-1.
History will repeat and I personally wish that Italy will again teach Germany how t play football

tryin to cheapen the germany win with ref speculation. funni, cuz i remember not to long ago wen the ref gave italy a penalty in 90+ minute to beat australia. a penlaty which wuz clearly not deserved seein how the italian player stumbled over the australian. italy teach germany how to play? give me a break. look at who italy has faced thus far, australia n ukraine whilst germany has gone through hell with argentina n sweden. jus wait n see, germany is gonna beat italy. they may not have names, but they are disciplined and play as a team. as zlatanov pointed out germany is germany, and they WILL WIN.

Originally Posted by martin

tryin to cheapen the germany win with ref speculation. funni, cuz i remember not to long ago wen the ref gave italy a penalty in 90+ minute to beat australia. a penlaty which wuz clearly not deserved seein how the italian player stumbled over the australian. italy teach germany how to play? give me a break. look at who italy has faced thus far, australia n ukraine whilst germany has gone through hell with argentina n sweden. jus wait n see germany is gonna beat italy. they may not have names, but they are disciplined and play as a team. as zlatanov pointed out germany is germany, and they WILL WIN.

must be a german speaking. i personally feel its true that the ref today seem to favour the germans, a lot of decisions keep going germans way. how does the germans get a freekick when the player fell over himself when he try to shoot is something beyond me. At least Grosso fell over something.

TEVEZ !

Some of his touches were fantastic today, i can imagine him linking up well with our midfield and forwards.

TEVEZ could settle in Carlo's formation. He can dribble and has the guts to fight. The only problem is his price, Corinthians did pay a lot for him 2 years ago

it's going to be very hard transfer him .. and in the other way we aren't very interested in him

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must be ac milan first choise this summer transfer window
he is GREAT!!!!

RVN is finished, to get him will simply be a DISASTROUS move.

One more time...what I think is the best is to drop Kaka more to the midfield where he could help Pirlo with his moovement and running and keeping the ball (not all the way down and get a more of a creative striker like Cassano (or Suazo) in. We would have the creativness of Sheva and a solid MF. And we could rely on Pippo and Gila to be our box striker, and both of them, especially Gila should like this setup....xMass tree 2.0

Would this be forseeable? Probably. Unbeatable? Most definitely

A new thought: I don't really think that Tevez is inteligent enough, and we could use sume inteligence upfront Maybe Torres is bit better inteligence-wise but he's not a Cassano type of a player, whereas Tevez somewhat is.

Or the Gila-as-a-space-opener-for-whoever solution is possible I guess in which case the ideal person could be _____________ (Toni/Torres). Bed time now

i agree, tevez would be a good choice IMO

Originally Posted by Tas

A new thought: I don't really think that Tevez is inteligent enough, and we could use sume inteligence upfront Maybe Torres is bit better inteligence-wise but he's not a Cassano type of a player, whereas Tevez somewhat is.

I definately don't agree with this. I think Tevez is quite tactically adept and disciplined, and showed more intelligent play in this WC than Torres imho. Honestly, I think Tevez does have room to improve, but I think he's probably the most complete young forward in the game today.

There are elements of Peckerman's attacking system which I don't like where one forward will usually stay more central and the other will spread into wide-areas (Tevez played this role more yesterday). Whilst this will effectively help stretch an opponents defence, I find the forwards become more isolated individuals rather than working as a unit, which makes it more difficult for them to create goalscoring chances (especially the one playing in Tevez's role yesterday).

Martin, please don't swear, I don't expect to have to edit anymore posts in the future, thank you.

i went to stamford bridge today and asked them if there was any chance i could meet sheva..they told me he isnt in the UK yet as he just finished his WC.. i wanted to meet him and then slowly ask him questions about why he left us..i wanted to see if it was just for money or just for the language.. and btw guys, Sheva does speak English..when I met him in DC last summer i talked to him for a bit and he understood me pretty well and also replied well

hope that you will meet him very soon .. and tell us the reasons why he left !!

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

i went to stamford bridge today and asked them if there was any chance i could meet sheva..they told me he isnt in the UK yet as he just finished his WC.. i wanted to meet him and then slowly ask him questions about why he left us..i wanted to see if it was just for money or just for the language.. and btw guys, Sheva does speak English..when I met him in DC last summer i talked to him for a bit and he understood me pretty well and also replied well

forget about sheva, next time you go to Stam. bridge make sure u plant a bomb in the middle of the pitch