Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by Milan_Mad

Haha!! a 2 year loan option i found strange maybe they did this as they dont want to spend over 100mil they are going to be very strong next season no doubt

Premier league rules are stopping them buying him outright, money must be paid to West Ham, not his actual owners. So a loan is a compromise till the mess is sorted out.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

no need really, with all them purchases, I am sure the last team ManU wants to meet in the CL is Milan
And I am also sure that next time we kick their butts out of Europe, SAF will come out and say - "We were taught a lesson because Milan are a much more experienced team and have great chemistry as the players have been together for a long time now" ... and then, a couple of months later he would go out and buy 4-5 new players all under the age of 21 for a total amount of 100 mil euros

btw, maybe we should start compiling a list of players ManU will not buy ... will be far less work, I think

Yes but if they gonna kick our ass, what we gonna say about that?
"Yes Milan is a great club with much experience, but experience didn't help them to win the freshed and hungry talented players for glory of ManUtd."

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

Yes but if they gonna kick our ass, what we gonna say about that?
"Yes Milan is a great club with much experience, but experience didn't help them to win the freshed and hungry talented players for glory of ManUtd."

that was supposed to happen twice over the past 2 years with exactly the same scenario as you suggested - the young and talented ManU vs the old and squeeky Milan defense guarded by a talentless bunch like Seedorf, Gattuso, Pirlo, and that guy with a name like Ambrosio or whatever (as Mr Gray did and would say again for sure)

Originally Posted by zlatanov

that was supposed to happen twice over the past 2 years with exactly the same scenario as you suggested - the young and talented ManU vs the old and squeeky Milan defense guarded by a talentless bunch like Seedorf, Gattuso, Pirlo, and that guy with a name like Ambrosio or whatever (as Mr Gray did and would say again for sure)

Yes but this time ManUtd is much stronger than before.

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

Yes but this time ManUtd is much stronger than before.

Every year Man U are supposed to be "stronger".

Man U were Premiership champions this season, and we ravaged them at the San Siro (their defence being injured was put forward as too easy of an excuse).

Simply put, I don't rate English players (nor Spanish ones). United's team with the likes of Carrick, Neville etc. don't really strike me as having the same pedigree as our players.

Italian coaches are also better at preparing their teams tactically and mentally. It takes more to win tournaments than buying players left and right.

Man U may well be investing because of their lack of success in Europe recently. We have a winning team in place that just needs slight adjustment here and there.

Well said Hasan, it always feels great reading posts from you.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Every year Man U are supposed to be "stronger".

Man U were Premiership champions this season, and we ravaged them at the San Siro (their defence being injured was put forward as too easy of an excuse).

Simply put, I don't rate English players (nor Spanish ones). United's team with the likes of Carrick, Neville etc. don't really strike me as having the same pedigree as our players.

Italian coaches are also better at preparing their teams tactically and mentally. It takes more to win tournaments than buying players left and right.

Man U may well be investing because of their lack of success in Europe recently. We have a winning team in place that just needs slight adjustment here and there.

ManUtd has already win the EPL having a great club and playing good football.
Now with their great transfer Tevez,Nani,Hargreaves,Anderson+ their other great talents they are not supposed to be stronger, they are stronger! Can't you see that?
Well the EPL is the best and most difficult league of Europe.ManUtd won that trophie and also got in the semi final of CL.They are stronger than the last years.
ManUtd main target was the trophie of EPL, CL was their 2nd target.
Milan's main target was CL after the bad campionato we had this season, and we were concetrate in winning the CL.
ManUtd winning the EPL, get in CL semifinals (last year they stopped from the 32 teams phase) they are not supposed to be stronger they are really stronger!

Zlatanov, you're being arrogant just like the ManU fans were prior the ManU-Milan matches.
First of all, Manchester United won't play against Milan every year. Milan was beating ManU but it doesn't mean Milan had better team than them. ManU may even have better team than Milan but they can still lose. It's simple - this Milan doesn't suit them.
It shouldn't mean that ManU shouldn't buy good players just because Milan will beat them nevertheless.
By that logic, Milan shouldn't reinforce themselves because you'll be beaten by a Spanish team no matter who you buy.

Manchester has a smart transfer policy. SAF made a great team that won the EPL 8 times in 10 years ( from 1993-2003), that won the CL once and played 7 times in a row in CL 1/4's or more during the same period.
There was and still is a change of generations. During this change of generations Milan has beaten them twice ( and remember, Milan's generation had the best years from 2003-2007). When Milan had the change of generations, your team was playing in UEFA Cup, not making the semis of CL.
With the latest purchases i think SAF finally made the team he wanted to. A team that will rule England and be a strong favorite to win both in England and Europe at the same time ( something Milan wasn't able to do during your golden last 5 years).

A change of generation in Milan is inevitable, somewhere in 2008-2010. If Milan plays ManU in 2010 i think you'll see that SAF's policy was actually right !
Or even if you don't play against them.... you'll see they'll make better results than Milan.

I fully agree with rosoneri_11 and mrki: there's absolutely no understanble reasons to bring $hevchenko back.

Originally Posted by Nordahl

I fully agree with rosoneri_11 and mrki: there's absolutely no understanble reasons to bring $hevchenko back.

Thats the logical point. Buying sheva we will have a player with no future!

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Zlatanov, you're being arrogant just like the ManU fans were prior the ManU-Milan matches.
First of all, Manchester United won't play against Milan every year. Milan was beating ManU but it doesn't mean Milan had better team than them. ManU may even have better team than Milan but they can still lose. It's simple - this Milan doesn't suit them.
It shouldn't mean that ManU shouldn't buy good players just because Milan will beat them nevertheless.
By that logic, Milan shouldn't reinforce themselves because you'll be beaten by a Spanish team no matter who you buy.

Manchester has a smart transfer policy. SAF made a great team that won the EPL 8 times in 10 years ( from 1993-2003), that won the CL once and played 7 times in a row in CL 1/4's or more during the same period.
There was and still is a change of generations. During this change of generations Milan has beaten them twice ( and remember, Milan's generation had the best years from 2003-2007). When Milan had the change of generations, your team was playing in UEFA Cup, not making the semis of CL.
With the latest purchases i think SAF finally made the team he wanted to. A team that will rule England and be a strong favorite to win both in England and Europe at the same time ( something Milan wasn't able to do during your golden last 5 years).

A change of generation in Milan is inevitable, somewhere in 2008-2010. If Milan plays ManU in 2010 i think you'll see that SAF's policy was actually right !
Or even if you don't play against them.... you'll see they'll make better results than Milan.

It's not as if Milan will sit idly by in the next few years. We won the CL in 2003 and we won it again in 2007. So we must be doing something right.

Truth be told, I think Shevchenko on his own would be a step backwards. But if he came with another (promising) forward I'd be happy.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

It's not as if Milan will sit idly by in the next few years. We won the CL in 2003 and we won it again in 2007. So we must be doing something right.

Yes but can you imagine the same team with the same players wining the CL of 2009?

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Truth be told, I think Shevchenko on his own would be a step backwards. But if he came with another (promising) forward I'd be happy.

In that case i'll be happy to.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Zlatanov, you're being arrogant just like the ManU fans were prior the ManU-Milan matches.
First of all, Manchester United won't play against Milan every year. Milan was beating ManU but it doesn't mean Milan had better team than them. ManU may even have better team than Milan but they can still lose. It's simple - this Milan doesn't suit them.
It shouldn't mean that ManU shouldn't buy good players just because Milan will beat them nevertheless.
By that logic, Milan shouldn't reinforce themselves because you'll be beaten by a Spanish team no matter who you buy.

Manchester has a smart transfer policy. SAF made a great team that won the EPL 8 times in 10 years ( from 1993-2003), that won the CL once and played 7 times in a row in CL 1/4's or more during the same period.
There was and still is a change of generations. During this change of generations Milan has beaten them twice ( and remember, Milan's generation had the best years from 2003-2007). When Milan had the change of generations, your team was playing in UEFA Cup, not making the semis of CL.
With the latest purchases i think SAF finally made the team he wanted to. A team that will rule England and be a strong favorite to win both in England and Europe at the same time ( something Milan wasn't able to do during your golden last 5 years).

A change of generation in Milan is inevitable, somewhere in 2008-2010. If Milan plays ManU in 2010 i think you'll see that SAF's policy was actually right !
Or even if you don't play against them.... you'll see they'll make better results than Milan.

Once again the evil juventino is correct It is beyond arrogant to say that we would continue to beat ManU the way ManU have been beaten Juve recently

ManU are a team that is always evolving and improving in each aspect as the time goes by.....If we think we can get away with what we did to them with the current squad, then we'd be really be psuhing it...I mean we would actually have a magical striker this time around who's last trip to Manchester gave him a hattrick but they have a strong defence and look rather complete in every area. Nani and Anderson are awesome talents and I would have given anything to see either one play for us. SAF is gradually going to learn how to utilize South American talent in the premiership.....a frightening prospect indeed when you think of the speed of the English game together with the speed of their attack