Banter 2009/2010

Saw the French team and believe that Flamini will be asking for a transfer sooner or later as he is good enough to play for the National team, but he aint there due to lack of playing time in Milan-which is pretty strange.
Also no Mexes-not surprise but no Nasir.
Henry got in with his current form-which shows no real striker for France.
Teeth Cissohko did not make it while Escude did, thats strange for me.
Lastly, how the heck can Frey not be in the National team?

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Saw the French team and believe that Flamini will be asking for a transfer sooner or later as he is good enough to play for the National team, but he aint there due to lack of playing time in Milan-which is pretty strange.
Also no Mexes-not surprise but no Nasir.
Henry got in with his current form-which shows no real striker for France.
Teeth Cissohko did not make it while Escude did, thats strange for me.
Lastly, how the heck can Frey not be in the National team?

For the bold part, is it because of his performance (having little chances to play) or because that he plays in Serie A? I have read (from Geotav probably, I am not sure), the french coach is pretty resistant to french players who play in Serie A.

Not sure, but if I am him, I would really consider leaving as two years ago, he was a regular on the French team and now he is being overlook.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Saw the French team and believe that Flamini will be asking for a transfer sooner or later as he is good enough to play for the National team, but he aint there due to lack of playing time in Milan-which is pretty strange.
Also no Mexes-not surprise but no Nasir.
Henry got in with his current form-which shows no real striker for France.
Teeth Cissohko did not make it while Escude did, thats strange for me.
Lastly, how the heck can Frey not be in the National team?

Flamini was called in the pre-list of 30 players before Euro 2008 but he was asked to go back at home when the official list was revealed (7 players in this case). Flamini has never been called in the French NT since Euro 2008, so I don't see why he would be taken right now. It's more or less logical (for once).

Mexes, like you said, isn't a surprise: he plays in Italy, there have been some rumours of bad relationship between him and Domenech since a long time, it was sure he wouldn't be called.

Nasri is also not a surprise: what has he done this season ? Being injured 75% of time, playing 5 good games and being useless in others ...

Henry is a joke but he is one of the "friends" of Domenech.

Frey is in the same case as Mexes and he also made some interview saying that the Frnech NT was finished for him as long as Domenech was here because he's a bad coach and never trusted him. So of course, by saying that, that was sure that Domenech would never take him again. He just shot himself a bullet in his own feet.

Escudé isn't called despite being one of the favourite players of Domenech.

Anyway, a lot of suprises in all NT I think ...

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Not sure, but if I am him, I would really consider leaving as two years ago, he was a regular on the French team and now he is being overlook.

He has never been a regular in the French team ...

Damn, just saw the pre-list of Italy ... how is it possible to still take the same players even when they don't perform well (Gattuso for example, or some of the guys of Juventus like Grosso) ?!

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Not sure, but if I am him, I would really consider leaving as two years ago, he was a regular on the French team and now he is being overlook.

Actually that would be really bad idea...He doesn`t have problem with Milan..the problem in this case is the Domenech, and after the WC he is leaving for sure, so the next coach won`t have the same issues with Italian based players..meaning that Flamini will have the same fair treatment as everybody else,

So instead of taking the risk of adapting in a new environment, it will be much better if he stays where he will have guaranteed 35 game a season, cuz lets face, we are not gonna see much of Gattuso anymore.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

He has never been a regular in the French team ...

Damn, just saw the pre-list of Italy ... how is it possible to still take the same players even when they don't perform well (Gattuso for example, or some of the guys of Juventus like Grosso) ?!

Couldn`t agree more, i thought Lippi was the worst in this regard, but Maradona left out Cambiasso and Zanneti....OMG, seriously,people are not aware how much of a flop Argentina will be in the WC...Zeekay be prepared to cry a lot

It makes you wonder how far Argentina and Italy can go in this WC. I mean at least Argentina got Messi.

As for Flamini, to me, it seems like that ever since he got into Milan-he has not been call up.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

It makes you wonder how far Argentina and Italy can go in this WC. I mean at least Argentina got Messi.

As for Flamini, to me, it seems like that ever since he got into Milan-he has not been call up.

Don't worry for Flamini, even in Arsenal, he wasn't a regular in the French NT ...

Argentina (defence), Brazil (attack), Italy (whole team), France (some players here and there + coach), and probably some other teams, I still have to look at the called up players, they all have some weaknesses that could make them lose sooner than later in the competition.

We're apparently pushing for Jucilei

http://translate.google.com/translat...47&sl=it&tl=en

News that Leo is leaving and Van Basten said no to Milan clearly leads us to conclude we are continuing with "low cost" mercato. Which means we will not be a top team next year as well.

Our only hope is that Galliani will do his job extremly well ( hahahahaha!! ) and will release the players that have big names and low quality now.

Geo, Domenech is absolutely the most ridiculous coach ( well maybe 2nd after Otto Barić who lead Croatia in to Euro in Portugal!) Ive ever seen leading a big NT. France and Azzuri have nothing to do in the upcoming WC, their lists are riduculous.

Lippi also messed it up as far as Im concerned... Gattuso and Zambrotta? Come on... etc.

Dunga also... And aldough people tend to say "Pato is young etc.", for sure he is very sorry for not playing in the WC. And for that it is Milan do blame for playing him as a winger and making him injured for half of the season. If Pato played for Chelsea this year, as a forward, Im 200% sure he'd be on the WC list...

Nevermind, Pato is ours

Its very sad that two of the best teams, france and germany have two of the worst possible coaches, Maradona and Domenech. I always favour Argentina in the WC, they have potentially the strongest team with players like Messi, Samuel, Aguero, Millito X 2, Cambiaso, Tevez, Pastore, Masherano, Veron, Di Maria etc. but without a good coach its all gone to waste. This is the second WC in a row in which they have a 3rd rate coach for a first rate team.

We can't blame the club for everything ...

Flamini doesn't deserve to be in the French NT nowadays, let's stop being biased because he is one of our players. In France, you have at least 10 DMs who have about the same level and the same role (it looks like a tradition in France). So the guys who have the more playing time in this position are the ones who are taken.

For Pato, if he gets an injury every 5 games, Milan can't do that much. Of course, there was probably something wrong with his last injury (coming back after so long time out and after his first sprint during the game, he is again injured), but like Leonardo said after that, he trained for a whole week just before this injury and was fine ... let's say it was a lack of luck for Pato.

But it's sure that it can look unfair to see these both guys being out of their respective NT while Gattuso and Borriello for example are going to be in the Italian NT almost for sure, with the same roles (that just shows how Lippi did bad choices, not for Borriello, but more for, like you said Mrki, Zambro and Gattuso: if it was just to take some Milan players, he should have taken Antonini instead of Zambrotta and Ambrosini instead of Gattuso).

Even Aadiyah could go to the WC with Ghana as he is in the pre-list too ...

Like a lot of you, I have no idea how Lippi can pick Zambro and Grosso over Antonini, as Antonini pretty much outplayed both of them this past season. as for Gattuso, there most be 5 other DMs that should be in the list instead of him starting with Ambrosini.
Anyhow, if past history has any weight at all-European Teams only won WC in Europe. I doubt Italy or France can win even with the proper selections.

To me, i think Brazil weakness is LB and maybe in the midfield. But their defense beside LB is as solid as they come with Maicon-Lucio-Juan/T. Silva. I think Dunga might just play Dani Alves as LB. If Dunga is brave enough, he will push T. Silva or Lucio as DM.
With Kaka-Fabiano-Robino up front, and top three GK in the world in Caesar, they are the favourite along with Spain.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Like a lot of you, I have no idea how Lippi can pick Zambro and Grosso over Antonini, as Antonini pretty much outplayed both of them this past season. as for Gattuso, there most be 5 other DMs that should be in the list instead of him starting with Ambrosini.
Anyhow, if past history has any weight at all-European Teams only won WC in Europe. I doubt Italy or France can win even with the proper selections.

To me, i think Brazil weakness is LB and maybe in the midfield. But their defense beside LB is as solid as they come with Maicon-Lucio-Juan/T. Silva. I think Dunga might just play Dani Alves as LB. If Dunga is brave enough, he will push T. Silva or Lucio as DM.
With Kaka-Fabiano-Robino up front, and top three GK in the world in Caesar, they are the favourite along with Spain.

Actually non of the attackers have been in a good form this season...Robinho has had his moments, but nothing worth mentioning IMO.

I Would like to ask Dunga, what if Kaka gets injured..who si gonna replace him, Baptista, Ramirez??!!!