Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by brk

There is no conspiracy and nobody has it in for Milan. This is just the result of a larger narrative that has developed around the team. Its a natural evolution of our 'Milan is old' narrative. Seeing Kaka sold changes the 'Milan is old' story into 'Milan is finished' and so journalists will seek (or create) stories that will fit that narrative. It's going to take a long time and some victories for the team to regain its stature. These things hardly ever change overnight.

I think that what you say about 'fittiing the narrative' is pretty much the same that Rossoneri Fuego said about the media being obsessed with creating a picture of Milan in demise. There's no denying that certain English media stations have been trying to paint a bad picture of Milan. First they conjure the 'Pirlo wants to leave' story from thin air, and then they conveniently misquotes Pato so it sounds like he wants to leave. Typically English Press if you ask me...

Originally Posted by Christian

I think that what you say about 'fittiing the narrative' is pretty much the same that Rossoneri Fuego said about the media being obsessed with creating a picture of Milan in demise. There's no denying that certain English media stations have been trying to paint a bad picture of Milan. First they conjure the 'Pirlo wants to leave' story from thin air, and then they conveniently misquotes Pato so it sounds like he wants to leave. Typically English Press if you ask me...

The only positive thing I have to say about the English football media is that they're not quite as bad as the Spanish. But close enough.

And just for the record, Manchester United fans are already bitching because the club hasn't yet bought players to replace Ronaldo and now Tevez.

I have seen youre comments and i have to say most of you dont know what youre saying,some say that we must move in for some dutch players from real now they are available....please dont make me laugh.

I live in Holland so i see the dutch players from a close sight,like Brasilieiro knows the Brazilians like his back pocket.First of all,some of you really like Robben.If i remember good i think that last season the main complainment was that our squad was injury-prone...and now you want Robben?...HAHAHAHAHA.That guy is made of glass he is unbelieveble!!!He isnt over his injuries,he is not made for a hard league a Serie A or P.League,thats why he played not much at Chelsea,because he is terrorized with fouls,wich will happen in Serie A also.And where should he play?If we play 4-3-3 we can fit him in but in a 4-3-1-2 he cant play,he is a pure winger,not a AM or CF!!!

Van der Vaart has a low morale and complains when he sits on the bench,not a player we need,if he doesnt play he losses his condition,getting fat and lazy...just like dinho did last season,also he just isnt good enough for Milan.Just like someone said before on this forum,he just lacks something,he isnt Milan-Material....very good,but his character and all that spoils it for him...

Sneijder is a option,could play as RM,or at Pirlo's plays,also as AM but he is a little prick with a attitude,the quality is there but the attitude doesnt fit Milan,more at Inter...

Drenthe still has to prove himself,he did here in Holland at Feyenoord and at the EK-21...but still i want to see him first play at Fiorentina or a other lower club before we get him,he is dynamic and can play on the whole left wing(LB,LM or LW,he played them all at a very good level)but first we have to see if he can handle the level of a big club.We could buy him and loan him at a club in Italy,the best option IMO.
But he isnt needed,dont forget we have Albertazzi,two promising LB is stupid,we have to give Albertazzi a chance,just like Barca gave Busquets a chance and look where he is now:Spain NT as a starter!!!!!!!!

You all scream that Carletto didnt gave youth chances,and now you dont even give them a roll in youre line-ups and are yelling for 5 players of young age of other teams...what about Albertazzi,Strasser(!!!),Cardacio or Darmian(who knows the new Maldini,he has the body he has everything).

Why do you all want a new back-up keeper,if we can promote the youth keeper who has been in the squad last season a couple of times,why not move him higher and put him on the bench as second after Abbiati(who is WC for sure).

Why get a new LB if we can give Albertazzi a chance,he is the next big thing according to whole Italy...

Why not give Strasser a chance instead of getting a new midfielder,the guy is loaded with energy and looks like Seedorf,only he runs for his life....

The answers are in our youth,not in players of other clubs!

I say get Dzeko,a CB and Cissokho and our Mercato should be finished.

You all say there isnt a backup for Dinho/Pato but are all glad to see Abate come back: Come on!!!

You also are forgetting something: Galliani has right,the team is full of quality,if you play with a big striker and a Pirlo who isnt locked in the middle of the park for defence but can roam on the field in a free role than you are much much much stronger,last year we were pathetic according to us all(including me)but it wasnt only because of bad players,it was because we used the wrong tactics,everytime Pirlo played in a free role you could see we were great.We were **** but still 'only' came 10 points short for Scudetto....so if we just use a attacking tactic and kill of games instead of holding on on a 1-0 lead even in San Siro we will make up for the 10 points and outclass Merda Inter.

With Nesta and Silva,and Zambro and Aly(if the deal goes trough,wich i expect)than we have for sure a WC defence!

A midfield with Rhino and Flamini who do the defencive part and Pirlo who is in a free role is brilliant.

A attack with Dinho(in a normal form),Dzeko a the new Milan-fan striker and Pato(who can play as RW,he has the speed and drible technique to play there,and dont forget it isnt a coincedence that the guy kept searching the lines to make a action because he had the time and space there to do something even if he was a CF) is a great attack.Just look at the team:

Abbiati/youth keeper

Zambro/Cissokho-Nesta/Bonera-T.Silva/new CB-Cissokho/Albertazzi/Janku if both are injured...

Gattuso/Flamini/Strasser-Pirlo/Gattuso(did great there last season,really great)/Cardacio-Flamini/Jankulovksi(great midfielder,still useful!)/Ambrosini(the guy isnt maybe good enough,but he works hard and that kind of players we need,his characteristics are sometimes very useful against some teams,like when we need some extra air-power at front)

Pato/Abate-Dzeko/Borriello/Pippo-Ronaldinho

And i didnt even count the likes of Kalac,Kaladze etc.

We have a good team,some adjustments and injections of are youth team and we are fine.

AND DO NOT FORGET,INTER WILL LOSE IBRA AND MAICON,SO THEY ARE THE ONE WHO ARE REALLY CRAP....

You cannot just throw away Dida or any of the older players with big contracts. They are signed and will remain unless they take paycuts to go elsewhere. Abbiati off major surgery, with a youth keeper as thebackup? You must be crazy .

This Cissokho transfer saga has left me speechless lol. I really haven't seen anything like this in my life. I really think I've lost this story completely now, there are too many questions left unanswered, important questions like what is his physical condition precisely? Why do we want him on loan so badly if Porto have reduced his price by a third? Why are Porto so keen for an immediate sale? If the loan is to examine his condition for a year, how will we know he's ok, considering the rumours until now have suggested problems could flare up at any time?

The other thought for me at this point is that both Milan and Porto seem very quiet on this issue now and it's only Roger Boli, Cissokho's agent that has said anything. Whether this means something I don't know, but it just seems a little strange.

I think the best route for me to take now is just let things unfold. I'm tired of getting headaches from this saga and just hope it's sorted soon, along with Dzeko.

Moggi is right about Milan, we're in a very strange situation and Galliani and co really have a ton of work to do this summer. In theory we need four key positions, a fullback (Cissokho?), a striker (Dzeko?), a CB and a forward/AM who can compete with Dinho for a starting role. I suspect we're planning to fill 3 of these roles, with a fullback (I hope at least), Striker and a CB, though probably just a suitable backup rather than a player competing for a starting spot. I think we will take the massive gamble with Dinho as Berlu has wet dreams about him everynight.

This is just the basis that we need for our mercato, then I'd argue we need to rejuvenate the squad. Part of this should be relatively simple as it would be retrieving our own players, like Abate. However, if we can really seal a couple of the key transfers soon, then we should be able to start laying the groundwork for future development, by securing or agreeing on talented players that will take places of ageing players right now, guys like Pirlo, Rino, Zambrotta and Nesta.

Apparently, Marchetti has essentially been secured for next summer, and it's these kind of deals we need to lay the foundations of early. That's why I want us to get Santacroce or Zapata, as I'm not convinced Nesta can last as a starter all season and we're unsure whether T.Silva will be a hit. If we get Santa or Zapata, we have top quality players capable of coming in the case of these problems, and should Nesta last all season and Silva be a big hit, then next season we have well prepared replacements for a 35 yr old Nesta (who I don't think will do a Maldini).

Oh please,keep Dida as a back-up until Abbiati is fit and get the young goalie to play as third keeper,let him play in friendlies and in Coppa games so he can get some experience so that if Dida his contract expires he can be second goalie,Abbiati will play then as first goalie
this coming season for most of the time and the next seasons,untill he retires,and the third goalie will be someone like Storari....how about this then.

The big fake hotshots will take place at the bank until there contract expires or will be sold,or swaped....

Originally Posted by Dutchie-Milan

Oh please,keep Dida as a back-up until Abbiati is fit and get the young goalie to play as third keeper,let him play in friendlies and in Coppa games so he can get some experience so that if Dida his contract expires he can be second goalie,Abbiati will play then as first goalie
this coming season for most of the time and the next seasons,untill he retires,and the third goalie will be someone like Storari....how about this then.

The big fake hotshots will take place at the bank until there contract expires or will be sold,or swaped....

Wasn't there a rumor a week or 2 ago that Milan had an agreement to purchase Federico Marchetti (GK) next year from Cagliari, keeping him where he is to get some more first team experience.

Found a link, but it's from March:
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/11/tr...ransfer-report

Some humour for you all in the midst of this non-transfer market....5 reasons why I think I would be a good addition to the Milan squad:

1) I'm only 29 - younger than many of our recent signings
2) My current annual salary is the same as the weekly wage of some of the top players
3) I will give Milan 100% control of my image rights
4) My agent is my local grocery store shopkeeper and he only wants $225 for a new cash register as commission
5) And lastly...I have absolutely NO dental problems

Originally Posted by Arjun

Some humour for you all in the midst of this non-transfer market....5 reasons why I think I would be a good addition to the Milan squad:

1) I'm only 29 - younger than many of our recent signings
2) My current annual salary is the same as the weekly wage of some of the top players
3) I will give Milan 100% control of my image rights
4) My agent is my local grocery store shopkeeper and he only wants $225 for a new cash register as commission
5) And lastly...I have absolutely NO dental problems

Galliani: how's 6 million a year sound?

Originally Posted by slifersd

Galliani: how's 6 million a year sound?

sounds fair given that we have a tendency to pay our dodgiest players the highest wages...

Originally Posted by Arjun

Some humour for you all in the midst of this non-transfer market....5 reasons why I think I would be a good addition to the Milan squad:

1) I'm only 29 - younger than many of our recent signings
2) My current annual salary is the same as the weekly wage of some of the top players
3) I will give Milan 100% control of my image rights
4) My agent is my local grocery store shopkeeper and he only wants $225 for a new cash register as commission
5) And lastly...I have absolutely NO dental problems

Galliani: Sorry, you're too young for Milan. Try back in a few years.

Here is somethign interesting....

Milan's Ronaldinho To Join Gremio In 2011?
The Brazilian star is set to remain with the Rossoneri for the next two seasons before he makes a return to his homeland...
21 Jun 2009 07:50:36

Roberto De Assis, brother and agent of Milan forward Ronaldinho, has hinted out that his client could return to Brazil to join Gremio in 2011.

According to the latest reports, De Assis is already working with the Rossoneri and the Brazilian side in order to make this move possible, even though there is still a lot of time left.

"Ronaldinho to Gremio in 2011? Yes, why not," said the player's representative to GloboEsporte.

"Now, it's too early to speak about it, but it is a possibility."

This rumour was further fuelled by the declarations of Gremio president Duda Kroeff, who made it no secret that Ronaldinho would be welcome at his club.

"Who wouldn't like having Ronaldinho in the team?" he asked.

"In my club, there's always the door open for Assis and his family.

"There's no need to knock, Ronaldinho."

If this is not a clear invitation, it is very close to being one.

Glenn Debattista, Goal.com


Atleast he won't overstay at our club like many of our current players....

Dont bet on it. Galliani will give him a big fat contract and make him stay until he is 35. If nothing else, Berlusconi needs him here to excite him so he can mess around with barely legal girls.

"Who wouldn't like having Ronaldinho in the team?" he asked.

"In my club, there's always the door open for Assis and his family.

"There's no need to knock, Ronaldinho."

If this is not a clear invitation, it is very close to being one.

Glenn Debattista, Goal.com

Gotta love those short, choppy sentences. I'm reading a Goal.com article and get "Dick and Jane" instead.

"Who wouldn't like having Ronaldinho in the team?" he asked.

Fill in your own joke.

Originally Posted by tardissun

Galliani: Sorry, you're too young for Milan. Try back in a few years.

Hmmm..... so I bet my chances are much better!!!!

I am only few months away from my 50's