Winter Mercato

I rate Andrade high as a defender. I don't remember someone neutralazing Sheva as he did. I also remember him having some great matches against Juventus attack.
He's Portugal's captain and is experienced enough.

What i don't like about this transfer is his knee injury. He had the same injury in 2002/03 and missed half of the season. Then he injured the same knee again this year and missed a big part of the season.
He's yet to have a medical in Turin and then we'll know for sure if Juve will buy him or not.
He may be ok now but still he's a risk with his chronic knee problems and Juve can't allow now to have the main defender out.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

btw, is there anything concrete on Barzagli to Juve or is it mostly the fact that Miccoli went the other way that you guys think Barzagli is on his way to Torino?

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=23&a=47999

Juve did ask for Barzagli and Palermo's official confirmed it. I guess after Miccolli's transfer Juve may get him eventhough the same Palermo official says Palermo will try to keep him.

Today's Gazzetta suggests that Milan are at a crossroads: should they bring back Sheva or buy Pato (they are both non-EU, hence the dilemma).

Gazzetta claims that we have offered 25 million euros and even to move Pato's entire family to Italy. Pato would be offered a 1.5 million euro contract to start. The pink paper claims we are ahead of everyone to sign him.

Gazzetta also claims that we are willing to offer 25 million euros for Sheva as well, but he would have to lower his salary demands from 7 mill (what he is paid at Chelsea) to 5.5 million euros.


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I'd say bring Pato in instead of Sheva.

Losernazionale related news :
Grosso will have his medical in Lyon tomorrow. Inter is selling him for 5m euro ( kinda cheap for a world champion, but the bad season in Inter didn't help raising his price)

Yeah, I've got a funny feeling about Ronaldinho as well---I guess along the same lines as Hasan. It is all very strange. The whole of last season was all about Ronaldinho this and Ronaldinho that, his agent spotted in Milan, blah blah----and Berlu even invited his brother/agent as a guest at the CL final in Athens...

Now, we are in the middle of the transfer season, and NOTHING. No news whatsoever. Barca signed Henry. I just cannot see them having Messi, Henry, Etoo, Ronaldinho playing in the same squad. Those are four massive egos---who's Rijkaard going to bench? If I were Barca, selling R10 would be the best possible option. For one, they will get a huge fee for him as he's still in his mid to late 20's, secondly, they have a ready made replacement for him, Leo Messi. I think a starting formation of Messi playing behind Etoo and Henry would not only scare the crap out of most opponents, but may also push R10 out of the team..

So in other words, I sure hope we have done some sort of deal....but then again, if the last two summers were anything to go by, you can never be too sure..

The problem isn't that when the transfer market will close but the fact that the other teams make movements. I mean a few years ago we got Nesta the last days but no team made important transfers. In contrast now everybody buy, they will not any good players avalaible in the tranfer market. You know Juve got also Andrande a very good defender.

I think it's better to have sheva back and buy pato but let him stay in brazil for a season or two.
wait...should we have the traitor back.....hmmm...we won the CL without him.....let me think and decide

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Today's Gazzetta suggests that Milan are at a crossroads: should they bring back Sheva or buy Pato (they are both non-EU, hence the dilemma).

Gazzetta claims that we have offered 25 million euros and even to move Pato's entire family to Italy. Pato would be offered a 1.5 million euro contract to start. The pink paper claims we are ahead of everyone to sign him.

Gazzetta also claims that we are willing to offer 25 million euros for Sheva as well, but he would have to lower his salary demands from 7 mill (what he is paid at Chelsea) to 5.5 million euros.


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I'd say bring Pato in instead of Sheva.

Channel 4 say it's £14 million for Pato or £25 million for Shevchenko and to me that makes the decision really easy, Pato everytime.

Why should we pay so much to bring him back? He walked out on us and there's no guarantee whatsoever that he's going to be anything like what he was before he left. He is the past, lets for goodness sake move on with it all.

£14 million is a huge amount for Pato, there's no denying it, but at least then we'd have money left over to buy other people.

25 million euro or 35 million euro for Shevchenko is way too much. Thereby Milan can get a talented striker, who could become one of the best strikers in the world for less money then for Shevchenko. This choice should be an easy one. But it looks like Berlusconi likes Shevchenko too much.
And if Milan get Pato They shouldn't loan him out or let him play in Brazil for a couple of years. Milan should use him directly. Because I thrust in Ronaldo and Gilardino as first choice strikers and then we should have great subs with Pato and Inzaghi.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

Channel 4 say it's £14 million for Pato or £25 million for Shevchenko and to me that makes the decision really easy, Pato everytime.

Why should we pay so much to bring him back? He walked out on us and there's no guarantee whatsoever that he's going to be anything like what he was before he left. He is the past, lets for goodness sake move on with it all.

£14 million is a huge amount for Pato, there's no denying it, but at least then we'd have money left over to buy other people.

And we will have a player with future, he would for play for us for years not for 1 or 2 years.

Originally Posted by kef

25 million euro or 35 million euro for Shevchenko is way too much. Thereby Milan can get a talented striker, who could become one of the best strikers in the world for less money then for Shevchenko. This choice should be an easy one. But it looks like Berlusconi likes Shevchenko too much.
And if Milan get Pato They shouldn't loan him out or let him play in Brazil for a couple of years. Milan should use him directly. Because I thrust in Ronaldo and Gilardino as first choice strikers and then we should have great subs with Pato and Inzaghi.

i don't agree we can buy both, loan Pato to a team for a year and then get him back. A good way to take Sheva would be to take him on loan from Chelsea and to have to pay his 80% of his wage.

Can someone tell me which are the non-eu players in our squad?

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Today's Gazzetta suggests that Milan are at a crossroads: should they bring back Sheva or buy Pato (they are both non-EU, hence the dilemma).

Gazzetta claims that we have offered 25 million euros and even to move Pato's entire family to Italy. Pato would be offered a 1.5 million euro contract to start. The pink paper claims we are ahead of everyone to sign him.

Gazzetta also claims that we are willing to offer 25 million euros for Sheva as well, but he would have to lower his salary demands from 7 mill (what he is paid at Chelsea) to 5.5 million euros.


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I'd say bring Pato in instead of Sheva.

It's really a dilemma. Both of them are really suitable for Milan from tactical point of view. Sheva could partner with Ronaldo (which makes dream comes true for Berlusconi) or Gila in a two-striker formation while Pato could accompany Kaka behind a striker, partner with Ronaldo or Gila or be used as Kaka's understudy.

The advantages of signing Pato are his a lot-younger age, much lower price and could be placed in more positions than Sheva BUT Sheva is a ready material, already world class striker who can make a diffrence in a match. Pato, no matter how brilliant he is, needs time to settle with Milan.

Seeing that we have already a decesive, world class striker on Ronaldo who can also make a good partnership with Gila and the effect of Sheva's comeback in the dressing room, I would prefer signing Pato. (But still I can't imagine, how Sheva could come back to Milan).

Taking Sheva Back is not a wise decision at all !!

Why should we bring back home the one who left us with no heart at all last year...and yet we have won CL. Sheva got a very bad year lasyt year and so he's no more a sharp goal getter anymore like when he's with Milan for 7 seasons. I don't see the necessity to bring a "dull striker" for so much money while we can get a "cheaper" and longer lasting striker in Pato. Sheva would cost $35 milion and Pato "only" $20 million but will last longer as a relatively better striker (cause he's much younger and could "learn" more like Kaka did)

So...don't waste more time...Galliani..tell Berlusconi to forget Sheva and write the check to pay Pato..(this is what I really wish him to do)
Maybe..next year when Sheva got another bad year at Chelsea his price would only $ 10 million...and that's about time to buy him back....

Originally Posted by rosoneri_11

And we will have a player with future, he would for play for us for years not for 1 or 2 years.

I already vision pictures of him in AS, with an AS edition on his hands where it sais : " PATO and MILAN CAMPIONI DI EUROPA "

A lot of people think Sheva has had a bad year because it lasted too long and next year he will be on fire for Chelsea lol.