Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by Giorgos

A good way to take Sheva would be to take him on loan from Chelsea and to have to pay his 80% of his wage.

Chelsea have already turned that option down, they won't agree to that.

Originally Posted by siregar

Sheva could partner with Ronaldo (which makes dream comes true for Berlusconi) ...

This point hits the nail on the head! It's a Berlusconi dream and not for the good of the club. It makes no sense economically or in terms of longevity. In the end it will all end up with how selfish Berlusconi wants to be and wether in this instance he puts himself before the club.

Like i've said before, for around the same price we'd have to pay for Shevchenko to return we could definately secure Pato & Cassano or possibly even Pato & Huntelaar.

@Jim : But Jim, still he is our President.

Originally Posted by Siregar

@Jim : But Jim, still he is our President.

Yes, but he's not there for his in depth football knowledge is he. If he was he'd be sitting on the bench doing Ancelotti's job.

Berlusconi wants Shevchenko back for personal reasons and not for the good of the club.

chelsea want £25 mill for shevchenko, even if he was the highest scorer in EPL last season, him being over 30 should have made a bigger difference than just a drop in £5mill.

For £25 mil we could get pato, cassano (might be free) and zambrotta.

Rumours today are that Barca want Kaladze. Makes me wonder, if we lost Kaladze we could have another free EU spot...

Originally Posted by Graeme C

chelsea want £25 mill for shevchenko, even if he was the highest scorer in EPL last season, him being over 30 should have made a bigger difference than just a drop in £5mill.

For £25 mil we could get pato, cassano (might be free) and zambrotta.

Rumours today are that Barca want Kaladze. Makes me wonder, if we lost Kaladze we could have another free EU spot...

With the money we can get Pato and his family here.
Cassano will come for free or just for a minor sum.
Zambrotta will probably not leave Barca, unless, what you say is true and they want Kaladze, we could swap. What's your source on this Kaladze news?
But then again, I like Kaladze.
If he leaves it would open up a free EU spot indeed and we could buy someone like Zapata to replace him.
Hmm, starting to like this idea all of a sudden.

the source is tuttomercatoweb, not the most reliable of sources.

Milan: il Barça su Kaladze se non chiude Milito?
07.07.2007 12.20 di Francesco Letizia articolo letto 2365 volte
Qualora non chiudesse la trattativa per Gabi Milito, il Barcellona potrebbe andare su Kakhaber Kaladze: lo scrive oggi Marca, documentando che la distanza tra Saragoza e Barça per il centrale argentino è ancora di 2 milioni ed il georgiano piace molto alla dirigenza blaugrana.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

Channel 4 say it's £14 million for Pato or £25 million for Shevchenko and to me that makes the decision really easy, Pato everytime.

Why should we pay so much to bring him back? He walked out on us and there's no guarantee whatsoever that he's going to be anything like what he was before he left. He is the past, lets for goodness sake move on with it all.

£14 million is a huge amount for Pato, there's no denying it, but at least then we'd have money left over to buy other people.

Quite right Jim. The newspaper says 20 million euros for Pato and 25 million euros for Sheva.

http://www.calciomercato.it/dettagli...a=2&hdnId=9866

Can anyone trnaslt this I try babel but poor....
it is something about Pato and Inter

And one thing is Vogel on loan to Betis or...??
Can we bring him back?

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Quite right Jim. The newspaper says 20 million euros for Pato and 25 million euros for Sheva.

What is actually the release clause of Pato? Is it 10 mil pound? From my rough calculation, 20 mil euro is about 13 mil pound.

If Barcelona don't get Milito then , according to Marca, they will try to get Kaladze. There's still a difference between what Zaragoza wants and what Barcelona is offering ( the difference is 2m euro, just like it was with Juve's offer for the same player). Barcelona's directors really like Kaladze and if the negotiations for the Argentinian fail, then they will go for the Georgian.

That's the translation of the tuttomercato article. They took it from "Marca" !

Why the hell should we sell Kaladze who is a great player and actually our STARTING CD alongside Nesta to Barca, to make them stronger ? Then we'll stay without CD's... this will not and cant happen. If we want extra non EU place sell Cafu or Serginho!

And I agree, it would be better to bring Pato and Cassano than Pato and Sheva. And also, loaning Pato doesnt come as an option as Im sure the boy wants to be in real club like Milan,Chelsea,Madrid, and not to spend 2 seasons at Lecce. Also, training at Milanello with Ronaldo,Kaka',Inzaghi helps young players, and would do him good even if he doesnt play much games from the start of his arrival.

Originally Posted by _MaJi_tz

http://www.calciomercato.it/dettagli...a=2&hdnId=9866

Can anyone trnaslt this I try babel but poor....
it is something about Pato and Inter

And one thing is Vogel on loan to Betis or...??
Can we bring him back?

It says that Inter has beaten the rivals and they'll sign Pato who will join them in January 2008.

I doubt it's reliable. It's comming from Radiomercato (?)

I can't find anything about Vogel there

Today's AS claims that Kaka will ask for a clause in his new contract that says if a huge offer comes in from Real, he can leave.

This is getting very funny now, and super desperate!!

I mean they must really think Milan are absolute mugs and will consent to this, and Kaka and his agent will wake up and read AS and say "oh yeah, we forgot about that, let's see if we can get that inserted."

There can be a release clause, though. But it will probably be something around 150m Euro, and Real certanly won't be mentioned there

"THERE WILL NOT BE A RELEASE CLAUSE." end of transmission form Berlusconi's office.