Winter Mercato

RRonaldinho OR Eto'o,
in both cases it would be disastrous for ACM , Bcoz

The 1st thing Ronaldinho would do is a fight with Kaka' (becoz he is jealous of Kaka) creating a tense atmosphere in ACM, resulting in Kaka's departure to Madrid next season

&

The 1st thing Eto'o would do is a fight with Carlo, just like he did with Frank Rjkaard & maybe even Carlo would leave at the end of the season

So both would be horible signnings for ACM

The only option left is Messi, who is much more talented than both of them

Maybe if we tell Galliani that Messi's real name is Messi Asis de Souza we can persuade him to consider signing the argentinean
If Messi for some reason leaves Barcelona, it will be to Inter. Same as Berlusconi has something with Ronaldinho and would pay almost whatever it takes to sign him, Moratti would do the same for Messi.

Originally Posted by mzk57

Fat Frank has played 4 CL semi finals i the last 5 years, scoring alot of goals as well SO how can u say that he hasn't prove himself in CL ???

could you please list those 4 times FF has played in the SF of CL ... and even better, the goals he scored in those games? ... cause I am pretty sure he didn't score any in the SFs vs Pool ...

in fact, he came very close to being the main suspect for the burglary in Reina's home since Fat Frank's whereabouts at the time of the game (when the crime took place) were listed as "unknown"

and how come with him scoring "a lot of goals" his team never made it to the final and it's a good team, mind you?

Fat Frank single handedly carried an awful English side to the QF of the Euro 2004, scoring 3 cracking goals

well then maybe we should refresh the memory of the English fans 'cause they don't seem too keen on having Fat Frank take up a place on their NT as of late ... I am sure if we tell them what he did for his team in 2004, they could even ask for his jersey to be retired

And Fat Frank is NOT the only player who takes penelties and free kicks. Steve-G, Ronaldinho, Ballack, Totti, Zidane, Riquelme all do the same for their clubs but still Lampards scoring rate crushes the scoring rate of all these players

Ballacks record used to be like FF's when he was at bayern, and if you look at Ronaldinho's for Barca, you will see the same.
As for Totti, who won the Golden Boot this last season?

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Yeah, Steza is really reliable, the other guy isn't.
But they were joking this time. They don't have inside info.

ahh, I see Tony is still jealous about the info on Nedved he received free of charge the DAY BEFORE when he himself was saying bye-bye to the Czech

anyways, no Russo-Neri, Steza dowsn't have inside Info, he was just kidding ... as for the other guy, well, he likes seeing people scratch their heads ... like our friend Tony did when he read the news about nedved staying with Juve

Well, I don't want R10 in Milan. Not becouse he's too expensive (anyway Berlu will pay the money, not the club). But becouse he do not cope well with Kaka'. I've seen some games they played together (last one was vs England at Wembley, 1-1) and that is pretty visible. One of them clearly underperform, often that one is R10, and he starts to play well only when the other got sub-ed. That's obvious, they fight for the same balls and the same positions. Often Kaka tries to connect with the forwards, not with Dinho. And the things will get worst, cuz I really doubt R10 and Pirlo could play together. Getting him like a MD will hurt if not Kaka then Pirlo and Gourcuff.
Zlat said that Dinho will be used like supporting striker and not like a MD. I just can't see it working, Dinho also will have to fight for the high balls, not just to run from the flank to the penalty area. Or else we would have only Ronaldo/Gila to fight for all the crosses. I see R10 in Milan like a SS only if we use Pippo or Gila upfront.

One more thing. I see Real didn't give up on Kaka' see this article. In it Schuster says that one day Kaka' will play for them. OK, no problem I would offer them this guy (see the pic bellow). He is Brazilian and his name is...Kaka' Well, he is a year older and he is a defender, but hey, he wears number 4, i.e. 2+2 and his name is Kaka' , I'm not lying They can get him anytime they want

Originally Posted by zlatanov

could you please list those 4 times FF has played in the SF of CL ... and even better, the goals he scored in those games? ... cause I am pretty sure he didn't score any in the SFs vs Pool ...

2004 Chelsea vs AS Monoco
2005 Chelsea vs Liverpool
2007 Chelsea vs Liverpool

My mistake its actually 3 out o 4, but still it is a GREAT record

I said that he scored in the CL (group stages+knock out) He scored in the semi-final against Monoco, in the QF vs unbeaten Arsenal 2004, 3 against Bayern in 2005 QF and alot more in the group stage

and how come with him scoring "a lot of goals" his team never made it to the final and it's a good team, mind you?

Yes it is a good team. U have to accept Chelsea's dominance in EPL in the last 4 years, so no question there.

As for is team not qualifying for final, well in 2004, they came very close and at one stage Chelsea were leading AS Monoco on away goals rule, but then Morientes turned things on single handedly. U could say dat a moment of brilliance from one man took the game away from them & it happens in football
In 2005, I think u will agree that the ball was not over the line & who knows maybe on penelties Cech would have won the match for them, since he was at the form of his life in 2005. They were beaten by a goals which actually never happened

In 2006, AC Milan vs Liverpool was scripted at the start of the season, History was going to CORRECT itself. U can't chage things like dat Chelsea went out just on penelties. Just imagine if the 2nd leg was at Stamfor Bridge, who knows, the crowd advantage would have worked for them and its could have been ACM vs Chelsea.

well then maybe we should refresh the memory of the English fans 'cause they don't seem too keen on having Fat Frank take up a place on their NT as of late ...

If the coach can't pick the rite formation, Frank can't do any thing abt that. Give Lampard & Gerrard to Carlo and he would play them in the perfect formation of ACM. Just imagine this team

----------------Inzaghi--------------
---------Lampard------Kaka-----------
----Gerrard-------Pirlo------Gattuso----
----------------defense----------------
--------any GK apart from d!da-----------

The English coach is responssible for his poor management of the team and poor performances not ONE FRANK LAMPARD!!

I am sure if we tell them what he did for his team in 2004, they could even ask for his jersey to be retired

In Euro 2004, Zidane scored 3 goals and France lost in the QF. Lampard scored 3 goals and England lost in QF. SO whats the difference????

If I am not mistaken, he was 'English Fan's player of the year' in 2004, mainly bcoz of his stunning performances in Euro 2004

Ballacks record used to be like FF's when he was at bayern

It used to be like that but its NOT now Plus EPL is much more difficult league than Bundes Liga, Am i rite????

Now they both are in one team and Ballack even plays ahead of Lampard in the formation. Like Ballack is Chelsea's Kaka, and Lampard is their Seedorf in the 4-3-1-2 formation. Now who is more likely to score in that formation??? Seedorf or Kaka?? Same goes for Lampard & Ballack. U compare their record of 2006-2007 and then declare who has had the better season????
For details of their record, log on to http://www.chelseafc.com

and if you look at Ronaldinho's for Barca, you will see the same.

Ronaldinho is a forward man and Lampard is a midfielder. Suppose the both have same number of goals, even then Lampard should be given more credit bcoz he is a midfielder and he has to perform defensive duties as well

As for Totti, who won the Golden Boot this last season?

Totti won the Golden boot with 26 goals and over all he scored (say) 30 goals (I am not sure) and over all Lampard scored 21-22 goals. Their is just a difference of 7-8 goals, which is not that massive & let me remind u that Totti was at the end of of every move made by Roma midfielders. He was playing as a lone striker. He didn't win the Golden Boot playing as midfielder. The seasons in which he played as a midfielder, he didn't win it and maximum he scored 15 goals (including penelties)
U can see that u are comparing Lampard's scoring rate with players who play in much more advance position than him and still the difference is not that big . Gerrard scored only 10-12 goals froim the same position, he too takes the penelties

Now if u say that Lampard too plays as a 2nd striker, then let me remind u their formations of the last 4 season. U must know that I also follow Chelsea a little bit after ACM

Chelsea of 2003-2004

------------------------------Cudicini----------------------------

---Melchiot-------------Desielly--------Terry-----Bridge/Babayaro--

---Gronkjaer------Lampard---------Veron---------Duff/J.Cole----

-==--------Hasselbaink/Mutu----Crespo/Gudjohnsen----------

Chelsea of 2004-2005

------------------------------Cech------------------------------

---Fareirra----------Carvalho----------Terry------Gallas--------

--------------Tiago--------Makelele-----Lampard-------------

---------------Duff--------Drogba/Gudjohnsen----Robben--------


Chelsea of 2005-2006

------------------------------Cech------------------------------

---Fareirra----------Carvalho----------Terry------Gallas--------

--------------Essien--------Makelele-----Lampard-------------

---------------J.Cole-----Drogba/Crespo-----Robben-----------


Chelsea of 2005-2006

------------------------------Cech------------------------------

---Bolarouz---------Carvalho----------Terry------A.Cole--------

--------------Essien--------Makelele-----Lampard-------------

----------------------------Ballack------------------------------

--------------------Drogba--------$hevchenko/Robben------------


SO U can see that in every formation there are 3-4 players which were MORE likely 2 score goals than Fat Frank. But still he was Chelsea's top scorer with 20+ goals each season from deep midfield in all seasons (with exception of the last 1) in the presence of forwards like Crespo, Drogba, $hevchenko, Mutu, Kezman, Gudjohnsen, Hasselbaink, Robben, Duff, J.Cole adn Ballack.

Thats why He is the best player of the world in my opinion

God forbid we ever to sign Lampard
He has playmaker's duty???
The only thing he's doing on the field is to try to find a space for a shot, that's all he can do. We don't need that type of player
You know, team work is much more reliable than solo efforts if we need to score, right?

Man mzk is so obsessed with Lampard, I am so amazed at how long he wrote a post just to try to convince us about Lampard. In all honesty I did not read one word of his post and don't intend to. Lampard is one over-rated player that I would never want in my team. For crying out loud he's compared him with legends of the game!! mzk's obsession with pretty boys ain't funny no more it's making me sick.

Originally Posted by MedellínBandit®

Whats with all the Lampard talk today, honestly I dont think ive ever seen a player as overrated as him. For the wages hes getting I can name 5 players who would do a better job than him.

**Sorry for the double post**

So Medel name some...

Originally Posted by Giorgos

So Medel name some...

He earns more than all of Milan's midfield I believe (bar Kaka), and every single one of 'em is better. If you want people in the position that are better than him? Fabio Liverani, De Rossi, David Pizarro, Xavi, Mascherano, Xabi Alonso. I could name dozens more, hell I would even prefer an unproven Barusso over him. (oh yeh btw he went to Roma guys, so he aint coming here this summer. Many claimed we already signed him but were just waitin to announce it)

Originally Posted by drucurl

Is is me or did Mzk57 just recruit someone into the HRBC??

What is HRBC?

Calciomercato.com


Ronaldinho al Milan? Berlusconi pronto a pagare la clausola di rescissione da 125 mln

09:30 del 11 luglio

Il Milan punta tutto su Ronaldinho. Nei prossimi giorni i rossoneri effettueranno un ultimo tentativo con il Barcellona. Se il club catalano dovesse rifiutarsi di intavolare una trattativa, il presidente Berlusconi sarebbe anche disposto a pagare l'intera clausola di rescissione del brasiliano, pari a 125 milioni di euro. In questo modo il Barça non potrebbe fare nulla per evitare di perdere il suo campione.
Ronaldinho avrebbe già un accordo di massima con il Milan per un contratto di cinque anni da 8,5 milioni di euro netti a stagione più la cessione di tutti i diritti d'immagine. L'indiscrezione è riportata dal quotidiano spagnolo AS.

RASSEGNA STAMPA
Galliani: "Il nostro colpo di mercato potrebbe essere brasiliano".
Il Milan sogna il giovane Pato, intanto aspetta novità da Shevchenko, che ha chiesto un incontro con Abramovich e Mourinho. L'ucraino pretende determinate garanzie per restare al Chelsea, altrimenti chiederà di tornare al Milan.
(Corriere della Sera)

A fine stagione, il Barcellona perde i vantaggi del 25% con il fisco e fatica a rinnovare il contratto di Ronaldinho. C'è anche il problema Eto'o. Il Milan pronto a dare l'assalto al brasiliano.
(Gazzetta dello Sport)

Ancelotti ha scelto Drogba: adesso Shevchenko è un'altrenativa. Oliveira atteso in Spagna per firmare col Saragozza.
(Corriere dello Sport)



Today's stories regarding Milan on 4 different papers.
Amazing!!!!! 4 different conclusions.
Are these suppose to give us the latest news?
Or to imagine stories which people like to hear to boost up their sales?

The only credible paper looks like it is la gazzetta dello sport.
and the Corriere della sera is reporting yestrday's news.

Originally Posted by Stitch

Giorgios I must say - after Italy's disaster, I supported Greece on last Euro - it was wonderful to see "favourites" drop one by one in each round, after every one of them was sure they'll beat you.

See you in october, you're the first in our EURO 08 group, we're second

We never played fancy football, we are not Brazilians, Rehagel is obsessed with some things and frustrates us but i think we will qualify for Euro 2008.
Bosnia has very good players didn't start well but you got improoved a lot .

hi guys.. as you can see i'm new here. i've been following MM for quite some time now and just decided to join in

about Lampard, there's no doubt he's a good MD but i never like his style of playing. and yeah, i do think he's overrated.

when ever he get the ball, it always end up as a shot from him, like he rarely consider giving the ball to others who might have better opportunity than him. even in WC2006, i can always guess what'll happen when Lampard got the ball and its always right, a shot on goal. it's like england attack end whenever Lampard had the ball making the FW role virtually useless. poor rooney, when he was just about to position himself, its already a goal kick

Gerrard and Ballack have the same approach as Lampard, but it's just that Lampard is worst. it's fine to try long range shot once in a while, but not as frequent as Lampard did.

i started to wonder, is it because Lampard play behind Ballack that Drogba finally able to score lots of goals? hmmm...

so, no Lampard in Milan..

Rinaudo: E' Roma-Milan
Mer 11 Lug, 9:51 AM

Milan in vantaggio sulla Roma per il difensore del Palermo, Rinaudo, nell'ultima stagione in prestito al Siena.

Milan are in advantage over Roma for the Palermo's defender Rinaudo. Last season was on loan to Siena.

I'd never watched closely this player, so I don't have a slightly idea about him.

Ups sorry I forgot ..... its from Corriere dello Sport.