The Rumor: Cicinho to Milan

Originally Posted by zlatanov

actually it's more like 10 - don't worry, by the time you finish middle school and enter high school, you will be able to tell the difference.
In fact, you might wanna read the last couple of lines for they might be of good use to you when your daddy won't be driving you in the back seat anymore and it would be you, who would have to do it by yourself ... anyway, it's probably years away before words like "responsibility" and "accountability" start meaning something to you.

why the hell do you think im in school? thats why i think your a lifeless prick, you keep proving me right more and more.. you've been checking the members profiles one by one eh? memorizing their birthdays, so just incase someone says something wrong, you want to look smart by knowing how old they are..

im in 2nd year university in montreal, and i live alone, i have enough responsibilities whether you like it or not..

Would you guys please cut that **** out? It has all turned out to be a pissing contest. DAMN people, try to act more rationally...

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

why the hell do you think im in school? thats why i think your a lifeless prick, you keep proving me right more and more.. you've been checking the members profiles one by one eh? memorizing their birthdays, so just incase someone says something wrong, you want to look smart by knowing how old they are..

im in 2nd year university in montreal, and i live alone, i have enough responsibilities whether you like it or not..

Actually no, I am not checking people's birthdays. But now that you mentioned it, I checked yours and guess what, genius - you don't have it posted. I was just being sarcastic - and you should have caught that since you are so sharp - and used the logic of your posts, and not your UNPOSTED birth date, as a pretty good estimate of your "brain" luggage. Birthdays don't say much about it for obviously even 2nd year uni students can be lacking it.
And let me guess - you live alone = maturity and independence. Well, I am not even gonna ask you, who is paying for your school fees while you are playing the role of a hardworking student.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

All you need to do in order to open your eyes is go to that thread and read your own inconsistent posts whenever you felt cornered.

Cornered? Inconsistent? That's a problem you suffer from.

Unlike you, I don't think you are in denial for this would mean that all those hypocritical lies you said then and are saying now are done unintentionally.

There's no point in trying to turn the tables, you can't undo what you wrote.

in fact they will only help you fall further down in the eyes of those who actually read that thread.

Newsflash, people don't read your posts and given how you insult everyone that's not surprising.

Originally Posted by Mehdi

Newsflash, people don't read your posts and given how you insult everyone that's not surprising.

Interesting that your hope this could be the case ... maybe you have something to hide? This to come from someone else, I could understand, but coming from you ... I guess they call this "having lost touch with reality" and maybe "hypocrisy" too. If I am to insult anyone - like you - it is because they have done it to me already and have been asking for it.
This is nothing, however, compared to your style of coming down to earth like a Greek god only to arrogantly announce that what you say is the one and only truth and no one else's opinion has a single chance of being even partially correct - rest assured, people really love you for that. You for sure are their role model when it comes to respecting other people's opinion.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

You should ask your mother to warm up those milk bottles before she gives them to you ... maybe that would help you start forming an opinion of your own and not just wander in the steps of others like some headless chicken with follow-ups that hardly make sense most of the time.

u mother****ing basterd i hate u and dont think ur bad

Originally Posted by Dr Milano

u mother****ing basterd i hate u and dont think ur bad

wow, that's an improvement ... first time you say something that you have managed to come up with on your own. Maybe the next step in the right direction would be using punctuation for this isn't exactly a chat room, you know.
Well, I don't hate you ... I just don't pay much attention to your posts for you never have anything new, and of substance, to say.

ugh, how come the admins aren't taking any action? someone should deal with this guy, he needs help

I would like to have a few words before this thread goes down soon. I am afraid it is going to happen if it keeps like this. One doesn't have to be old to be mature, so personal attacks based on this is really uncalled for. This is a public place, so I guess everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, so long as he/she behaves in a courteous way.

Try to respect other people's opinions the way you want others to treat yours. If you happen to disagree and decide not to ignore, try to act in a polite way. Insulting people only degrades yourself. No matter how you do it, you are becoming a laughingstock for others.

To be honest, I have an ignore list with two people only. (I had to tentatively take them off to see what is going on in this thread). I happened to disagree on almost every word he/she said, and I didn't like the arrogance. I was never good at fighting, so I chose to ignore. Try this, seeing his/her name alone there with no words to bother me, made me feel much better, more like this guy/gal was expatriated from my imaginary world, giving me great euphoria. That's why, again, one doesn't have to be old to be mature. I must admit that I am not young anymore, but I am not very mature I must say.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

Interesting that your hope this could be the case ... maybe you have something to hide? This to come from someone else, I could understand, but coming from you ... I guess they call this "having lost touch with reality" and maybe "hypocrisy" too. If I am to insult anyone - like you - it is because they have done it to me already and have been asking for it.
This is nothing, however, compared to your style of coming down to earth like a Greek god only to arrogantly announce that what you say is the one and only truth and no one else's opinion has a single chance of being even partially correct - rest assured, people really love you for that. You for sure are their role model when it comes to respecting other people's opinion.

If I say a player is injury prone or has scored xxx number of goals and post data proving that then I am indeed correct. Facts are facts and bull**** is bull****. Your problem is you can't differentiate between facts and opinions. When you're confronted with facts you resort to lying, backtracking and name calling.

With the odd exception e.g. you because you're a bully and a coward, I don't insult anyone directly, I may question the validity of their opinions. I know the difference. You don't which is why on this forum, i.e. a forum where we all united by our love for Milan you resort to insulting other supporters, question their education, their dependence on their parents or whatever other crap, childish insults you can come up with. Respect? You don't know the meaning of the word and you have the nerve to call me arrogant. You're nothing but a bully with a big mouth, I've dealt with your kind before.

Why so much hate-filled people lately? Smooth things out a little fellows, sometimes football is also subjective too, not everything about it is etched in stone, things are always changing and evolving, so we could feel free to believe in our own formed opinions and to freely express 'em, as a God-given right, without having to feel harrased by idiots wanna-be geniuses. I pray God to supply us with a better empathic tolerance and understanding, if not we are gonna continue with a thousand years of more warring and spilling of each other's blood, solely because of intolerance on each other's views and ideas, such a waste of life!!!.

Originally Posted by Mehdi

If I say a player is injury prone or has scored xxx number of goals and post data proving that then I am indeed correct. Facts are facts and bull**** is bull****. Your problem is you can't differentiate between facts and opinions. When you're confronted with facts you resort to lying, backtracking and name calling.

With the odd exception e.g. you because you're a bully and a coward, I don't insult anyone directly, I may question the validity of their opinions. I know the difference. You don't which is why on this forum, i.e. a forum where we all united by our love for Milan you resort to insulting other supporters, question their education, their dependence on their parents or whatever other crap, childish insults you can come up with. Respect? You don't know the meaning of the word and you have the nerve to call me arrogant. You're nothing but a bully with a big mouth, I've dealt with your kind before.

everybody who has spent at least a couple of months in this forum, knows very well what I meant by saying waht I said in previous post about you i.e. the one you quoted above.
In the way yuo are portraying yourself, all you need is a cross, and people might mistake you for a saint. Now you are trying to make yourself look like the most respectable person around but you the last one here who has even a minimal ability to accept other people's opinion. I may often disagree and argue with people but the cases when I agree with them are far from rare and this is something you CANNOT say for yourself for there is hardly a person here who remembers the last time you agreed with someone, whoever he/she was, over anything. You not only completely cross out their view on things but make yourself sound as if there isn't even the slightest possibility that your opinion isn't 100% correct. And not only that but you do so in a pretty arrogant way from the very beginning before an argument has even developed. You are the last one here who should even think of the word "respect" let alone mention it. Same goes for calling me a coward - I am the last one here who has ever changed his initial opinion without acknowledging being wrong before that, and I am the last one here who has ever backed away from an argument just because he doesn't know what to say anymore.
And you come here and dare say that you have respect for other members? I really wonder how blind people must be not to see the sleezy, double-faced hypocrate you are for all it takes to see it is not more than a couple of visits to this forum.

Originally Posted by Xudong

I would like to have a few words before this thread goes down soon. I am afraid it is going to happen if it keeps like this. One doesn't have to be old to be mature, so personal attacks based on this is really uncalled for. This is a public place, so I guess everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, so long as he/she behaves in a courteous way.

Try to respect other people's opinions the way you want others to treat yours. If you happen to disagree and decide not to ignore, try to act in a polite way. Insulting people only degrades yourself. No matter how you do it, you are becoming a laughingstock for others.

To be honest, I have an ignore list with two people only. (I had to tentatively take them off to see what is going on in this thread). I happened to disagree on almost every word he/she said, and I didn't like the arrogance. I was never good at fighting, so I chose to ignore. Try this, seeing his/her name alone there with no words to bother me, made me feel much better, more like this guy/gal was expatriated from my imaginary world, giving me great euphoria. That's why, again, one doesn't have to be old to be mature. I must admit that I am not young anymore, but I am not very mature I must say.

I have never said that people, just because they are young or whatever, cannot come here and let their opinions be heard. I, however, also have the right to question someone's logic if that someone is still a child for not all 13 year olds are mature enough. I am sure that if you are honest with yourself for a moment, you would also wanna agree with that, at least when it comes to CERTAIN and not ALL people here. Well, maybe you don't know hoe this whole underage-thing started so here are some helpful links:
http://www.milanmania.com/forums/sho...&page=49&pp=15 (towards the bottom) and
http://www.milanmania.com/forums/sho...&page=50&pp=15 (top half of the page)
Maybe the above will unswer your question why Dr. Milano is the only one whose actual age I know and have looked up in his profile. And he is the only "kid", whose logic I have questioned based on his age ... and, to be honest, on his incomprehensible posts too. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE I HAVE ATTACKED IN EVEN A SIMILAR WAY FOR BEING TOO YOUNG OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. Maybe hitmannq8 would disagree, but he probably has realised by now, at least I hope so, that I was just being sarcastic when I said that and hopefully, he has figured that, in fact, he has never even posted his birthday in his profile for me to even look it up, as he tried to accuse me ... that was quite a mess up, I must say
One other thing to you - please next time you have a problem with someone at least have the gutts to be opened about it instead of coming here in the disguise of a nice guy with a hidden agenda. Usually in arguments no one side is truely "beauiful" so if you are the nice guy you tried to portray yourself to be, try to be either impartial and don't let your prejudice towards that "he/she" you mentioned, take the better of your judgement on an argument you don't know everything about - Justice is blind, you know. If, however, you can't do that, maybe the best thing to do would just not to come into the argument at all, for you would only add to its complexity or rather its simplicity, I should say.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

everybody who has spent at least a couple of months in this forum, knows very well what I meant by saying waht I said in previous post about you i.e. the one you quoted above.
In the way yuo are portraying yourself, all you need is a cross, and people might mistake you for a saint. Now you are trying to make yourself look like the most respectable person around but you the last one here who has even a minimal ability to accept other people's opinion. I may often disagree and argue with people but the cases when I agree with them are far from rare and this is something you CANNOT say for yourself for there is hardly a person here who remembers the last time you agreed with someone, whoever he/she was, over anything. You not only completely cross out their view on things but make yourself sound as if there isn't even the slightest possibility that your opinion isn't 100% correct. And not only that but you do so in a pretty arrogant way from the very beginning before an argument has even developed. You are the last one here who should even think of the word "respect" let alone mention it. Same goes for calling me a coward - I am the last one here who has ever changed his initial opinion without acknowledging being wrong before that, and I am the last one here who has ever backed away from an argument just because he doesn't know what to say anymore.
And you come here and dare say that you have respect for other members? I really wonder how blind people must be not to see the sleezy, double-faced hypocrate you are for all it takes to see it is not more than a couple of visits to this forum.

I question peoples opinions but I haven't insulted anyone, apart from you and for good reason. I've already taken the liberty of checking and there are only two instances in which anything I have said could be construed as an insult :

Anyone who wants to see Chivu join Milan must be a Juve or Inter supporter because no one in their right mind would want their club to spend so much money on a player that struggles to play 25 games...

Have you seen Cicinho defend? I don't how good he is going forward, a defenders job first and foremost is to defend, anything else is a Given a choice between the three you'd have to be out of your mind to prefer either Cicinho or Cafu ahead of Ferreira.

That's it. Now go ahead and prove me wrong, show where I have insulted anyone directly apart from you because you don't count.

Originally Posted by Milanium

Why so much hate-filled people lately? Smooth things out a little fellows, sometimes football is also subjective too, not everything about it is etched in stone, things are always changing and evolving, so we could feel free to believe in our own formed opinions and to freely express 'em, as a God-given right, without having to feel harrased by idiots wanna-be geniuses. I pray God to supply us with a better empathic tolerance and understanding, if not we are gonna continue with a thousand years of more warring and spilling of each other's blood, solely because of intolerance on each other's views and ideas, such a waste of life!!!.

I know we have had our arguments and disagreements - many of them not exactly "beautiful" - but I do appreciate your attempt to straighten things out in this thread and bring everyone back to his/her senses.
Well, probably pretty soon your wish will be, but it might take a little time for the passion to subside