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Old 24-06-2006, 12:23   #46

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Let's not forget that he was playing at an extremely high level before he suffered his injury in December. We need a youngster who can learn and absord what it is to be a great milan player.
That's it, that's the perfect recipe: youn talents learning from great masters.
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Old 24-06-2006, 13:12   #47

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I would rather have Milan getting someone like Thuram and Cannavaro then Favalli
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Old 24-06-2006, 13:37   #48

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I would rather have Milan getting someone like Thuram and Cannavaro then Favalli
The choice is absolutely Cannavaro than Thuram so that we wil have 2 solid BEST CB in the world for another 2-3 years.
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Old 24-06-2006, 18:07   #49

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I agree with Gre-no-li. I think in general the club has done well with recruitments over the past 4 yrs, which include Seedorf, kaka, nesta, and gila. We need to go young. We need to get good young players such as Diego Lugano of Sao Paolo or snatch Mexes away from Roma rather than go for Thuram and Favalli. I know Kala Kaladze is not the most appreciated in these forums but I think he was one of our very best last yr and will get better as he keeps on playing as a CB. We got him young and his perseverence paid off. I don't want any of the frenchmen in Milan, including Gallas. He is already 29, and I haven't liked his attitude at the world cup. I would rather take chances on young players with potential such as Colocinni (who bombed by the way) than older players. Thuram and Gallas will not be 1st choice this season, because with all due respect, they are not better at this pt in time than Kaladze. Also, I know it is easy to discard old players, but the great captain will be back and healthy this coming season. Let's not forget that he was playing at an extremely high level before he suffered his injury in December. We need a youngster who can learn and absord what it is to be a great milan player.
ur judging gallas on his performances with france? ... not that hes been sh!t or anything, but isnt that a bit unfair given that the whole team doesnt look so special? check out his performances for chelsea then tell me if kaladze is a better defender or not
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Old 25-06-2006, 03:02   #50

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I would rather have Milan getting someone like Thuram and Cannavaro then Favalli
And I would rather have Milan NOT getting ANY of them.
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Old 25-06-2006, 07:24   #51

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i agree completely with mk here. Gallas is a much better defender than Kaladze. I like Kaladze alot as a person, but the times i saw him he was all over the place.

Gallas is a great CB with pace and commitment, exactly the kind of player we need. I would start him with Nesta as our CB pairing.

ramo23 you completely contradicted yourself, you say Milan should go for youngsters and not the likes of Thuram or Favalli as they are too old. Then you say that we shouldn't discard old players and to remember the oldest of them all (save Billy) Maldini, which means you think old players can play a part, which means people like Thuram et al can play here. You have a crossed wire there i think.
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Old 25-06-2006, 08:16   #52

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Perhaps he just prefers Milan to sign young players (while realizing that the older ones at Milan are quite good).
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Old 25-06-2006, 12:11   #53

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If we sign Oddo as an attacking RB, maybe Carlo fill put Kaladze on the LB as an defensive BL who can move to CB so it could look like this.
-----nesta--gallas---kaladze---


oddo--gattuso-pirlo-jankulovski
----------kaka--------
------CF-------CF-------

This would be a solution when we are attacking, meaning we can change formations fast and making 4-3-1-2 into 3-5-2, which could work brilliantly.
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Old 25-06-2006, 12:33   #54

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Perhaps he just prefers Milan to sign young players (while realizing that the older ones at Milan are quite good).
Perfect. A great football squad is always a mix of experience and youth, and since we already have all the experienced players needed, let's bring a pack of bright youngsters.
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Old 25-06-2006, 12:59   #55

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ur judging gallas on his performances with france? ... not that hes been sh!t or anything, but isnt that a bit unfair given that the whole team doesnt look so special? check out his performances for chelsea then tell me if kaladze is a better defender or not
I agree, Gallas is a world class defender, and he has good 3-4 years to play at top level, so...
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Old 26-06-2006, 02:57   #56

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i agree completely with mk here. Gallas is a much better defender than Kaladze. I like Kaladze alot as a person, but the times i saw him he was all over the place.

Gallas is a great CB with pace and commitment, exactly the kind of player we need. I would start him with Nesta as our CB pairing.

ramo23 you completely contradicted yourself, you say Milan should go for youngsters and not the likes of Thuram or Favalli as they are too old. Then you say that we shouldn't discard old players and to remember the oldest of them all (save Billy) Maldini, which means you think old players can play a part, which means people like Thuram et al can play here. You have a crossed wire there i think.
I dont think he was contradicting himself at all. We have great veteran players in our squad, i.e. Maldini, Billy. So why go out and sign more veterans? I think what ramo23 was trying to say is that we should sign promising young talent and let them learn and develop under Maldini and Billy. Personally, I think that's a great idea.

Secondly, it is open to debate as to who is better--Kaladze or Gallas. I dont know how you can conclusively say that Gallas is better. With the exception of his first couple of games at centerback, I dont think Kaladze has put a foot wrong. If you asked me, I would be more than happy with him starting as our centerback next to Nesta. But in the end, it's only a matter of opinion. Who knows? If Gallas does come our way, we might be able to establish for sure who is the better centerback
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Old 26-06-2006, 03:22   #57

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honestly, I don't think Gallas is better than Thuram or Cannavaro at this point.
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Old 26-06-2006, 09:07   #58

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I dont think he was contradicting himself at all. We have great veteran players in our squad, i.e. Maldini, Billy. So why go out and sign more veterans? I think what ramo23 was trying to say is that we should sign promising young talent and let them learn and develop under Maldini and Billy. Personally, I think that's a great idea.

Perfect, perfect, perfect!!! The fact that we already have all the experience needed to succeed at the highest level it's so blatantly obvious that I fail to understand how people still talk about getting 'new' veterans!
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Old 26-06-2006, 15:12   #59

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honestly, I don't think Gallas is better than Thuram or Cannavaro at this point.
Cannavaro is ready to sign a new contract with Juventus ..
i just read this news in channel4..
here is the link http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/jun25g.html
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fioretina defender Tomas UJFALUSI fioretina can go down to serie b woulden that be a optien for a transfer? and i like stefan fiore
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