Real Madrid vs AC Milan: Kaka, we meet again

Originally Posted by mrki

Its ugly how our palyers are always tired or something. Whiler some Juve, Inter, Barca players etc. play non-stop and noone is talking how they played 3 games in 12 days...

I think Milan will play strange 4-4-2 which is actually 4-2-3-1.

------Zambrotta--Nesta-Thiago-Jankulovski--
-------------Pirlo------Flamini-------
---------Abate-----Dinho----Seedorf-
-------------------Pato---------

Well, that is how I would do it.

Also, Dida was pretty horrible vs Roma. We'll have problems with him on Bernabeu. He looks like he cant move well.

Don't think Dida was horrible against Roma, I know we all like to take jabs at him, but he did make some decent saves, a one on one with Vucinic springs to mind.

Btw watched Lyon - Liverpool, Lloris played a pretty amazing game, so secure throughout the game, and managed to make a monster save on a close range header. To bad we missed out on him. Also Pep Reina sucks, and Benitez gotta be in the danger zone of getting fired now. Glad to see Liverpool lose, Fiorentina are looking as serious contenters for the 2nd or even first spot now.

edit: 4-3 Fiorentina and 2-2 Inter, think that the English commentators can stop the dogma that Italian teams are defensive yet?

My gosh Inter really suck. 8 games now in the CL without a win, horrible represtentation of Italy. But their group looks reeeeeally interesting as Rubin Kazan beat Barca at the Nou Camp (when's the last time they lost there? can someone find out please?)

Barca 4
Dynamo Kiev 4
Rubin Kazan 4
Inter 3

And fiorentina had a good result, they won away 4-3, but theres a problem as Lyon beat Liverpool 2-1 at Anfield...this means that Liverpool will have to battle it out with Fiorentina for the second spot.

Lyon 9
Fiorentina 6
Liverpool 3
Dubrecen 0

Upcoming games: Fio vs Dub, Lyo vs Liv -- Fio vs Lyo, Dub vs Liv -- Liv x Fio, Lyo x Dub

I don't see Fiorentina making it, unless, Lyon beat Liverpool next round at home.

the UCL artists drew again... the painted their supporters faces BLUE!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

My gosh Inter really suck. 8 games now in the CL without a win, horrible represtentation of Italy. But their group looks reeeeeally interesting as Rubin Kazan beat Barca at the Nou Camp (when's the last time they lost there? can someone find out please?)

Off the top of my head: they lost twice at home towards the end of last season, against Espanyol (of all teams!), and against some "small" team when they'd already won the league.

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

My gosh Inter really suck. 8 games now in the CL without a win, horrible represtentation of Italy. But their group looks reeeeeally interesting as Rubin Kazan beat Barca at the Nou Camp (when's the last time they lost there? can someone find out please?)

Barca 4
Dynamo Kiev 4
Rubin Kazan 4
Inter 3

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You can say that Inter got into a group of Death.
They thought, Barca included, it would be a cake walk for the two.
I watched Kiev's game with Rubin, and Rubin is NOT, never is, a cake-walk.
In today's game the score couldve also been 2-4 to Kiev (Sheva missed a chance, oh well...) or 3-2 to Inter (Suazo missed). The point was that defenders made blunders several times, Inters mistakes looked horrible.

Sheva is making his presence felt in Kiev, and it helps.
He looks much much better than Ronaldo in Brazil that is for sure.
And he looked very helpful in Ukraine NT's last win against England.

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

My gosh Inter really suck. 8 games now in the CL without a win, horrible represtentation of Italy. But their group looks reeeeeally interesting as Rubin Kazan beat Barca at the Nou Camp (when's the last time they lost there? can someone find out please?)
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Here is an answer to yours: (soccernet.com)
"Karadeniz netted with 17 minutes to go to earn the Russian champions their first win in Group F and inflict a first competitive defeat over Barcelona since May.

It was also the first European defeat Pep Guardiola's men had suffered since losing at home to Shakhtar Donetsk last December having already qualified for the last 16."

Originally Posted by ukrainian_CA

You can say that Inter got into a group of Death.
They thought, Barca included, it would be a cake walk for the two.
I watched Kiev's game with Rubin, and Rubin is NOT, never is, a cake-walk.
In today's game the score couldve also been 2-4 to Kiev (Sheva missed a chance, oh well...) or 3-2 to Inter (Suazo missed). The point was that defenders made blunders several times, Inters mistakes looked horrible.

Sheva is making his presence felt in Kiev, and it helps.
He looks much much better than Ronaldo in Brazil that is for sure.
And he looked very helpful in Ukraine NT's last win against England.

Good to see that Sheva is doing good again, he did miss a few chances today though, but apparently he played well nevertheless.

Anyways, am I the only one concerned about the Italian teams this year, ofcourse Fiorentina is doing great, which is good, but still they're no where near sure to go on. Inter are dissapointing again, to be perfectly honostly I think we'll be lucky to get through, and Juve are currently 3rd in their group, although they'll probably scrape through.

I think that it wouldnt' be unrealistic that only two Italian teams could get through, no teams are cruising through the group stage like they're suposed to. All while the German teams are doing pretty decent

This is it...probably the defining moment of our season thus far...

After what I confess was an unexpected victory against Roma (albeit with the help of the ref), our confidence will have grown, tempered I'm sure by the early error, and the effort expended in getting the result.

The 4-3-3 we used in the 2nd half would be the best bet IMO, with a back 4 of Abate, Nesta, Silva and Zambrotta.

(I don't even want Oddo to be in the Bernabau, much less in the starting line-up).

Storari is out for a month, so we have to hope that somebody will handle the crosses that Dida will misudge, and clear the shots he will fumble.

Flamini, Pirlo and Seedorf as the middle 3...with Seedorf subbing out for Ambro (after we take a commanding 3 goal lead)

Pato wide right, Huntelaar centrally, and R80 wide left would be my forward line.

Now, after the utter disaster that was the 4-4-2 vs Roma, I truly hope Leo forgets about that little experiment, and sticks to what gave us the first real proper looking Milan all season.

At the risk of stating the obvious, I truly believe we will have to outscore them, to get anything from this game, and I think Hunter can bag a hat-trick this game, especially if he is allowed the full 90 minutes. Playing for a draw would be suicide IMO.

I believe it will be a game of extremes...one side will either win by a landslide, or by the odd goal in 5...I hope for a 2-3 milan victory, with a Hunter hattrick, or if he doesn't start, a brace by Pato and a single PK by R80.

Well, I can still dream can't I?

FORZA MILAN!!!

Forza Milannnnnnnnnnnnnnn, I Got To Work Tomorrow But But But I Will Escape From Work For This Game. I Got To Watch This One, **** The Dvr

I am not so convinced about the 4-3-3. The reason we played better in the second half vs Roma wasn't really the formation IMO, it was the players who came out with a more aggressive attitude and of course Roma who sat back and allowed us to attack.

I think Pato is wasted out on the right and Dinho doesnt have the legs to do much on the left. I'd still go for a 4-4-2 with Dinho and Pato as our forwards, Abate wide right, Seedorf on the left and Pirlo/Flamini in the middle.

If we have the right level of aggression, we will beat Madrid.

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

Storari is out for a month, so we have to hope that somebody will handle the crosses that Dida will misudge, and clear the shots he will fumble.

Originally Posted by mrki

Dida was pretty horrible vs Roma. We'll have problems with him on Bernabeu.

Why don't we just pin a sign on him that says "Too horrible to live"?

This round seems to be an upset round. Maybe Milan will pull an upset.

Originally Posted by mrki

Its ugly how our palyers are always tired or something. Whiler some Juve, Inter, Barca players etc. play non-stop and noone is talking how they played 3 games in 12 days...

I think Milan will play strange 4-4-2 which is actually 4-2-3-1.

------Zambrotta--Nesta-Thiago-Jankulovski--
-------------Pirlo------Flamini-------
---------Abate-----Dinho----Seedorf-
-------------------Pato---------

Well, that is how I would do it.

Also, Dida was pretty horrible vs Roma. We'll have problems with him on Bernabeu. He looks like he cant move well.

Marko Not that I think that dida is the best around, but saying that Dida was horrible against roma is plain bull ****!!He was good,to say the least. And I`m sure that most of the people that watched the game will agree with me.He had some good saves,good positioning...bad at crosses as usual,but very solid overall.

dida was not awful at any point during roma game..for me abate ambro and seedorf were the awful ones..

i am not sure how will pellegrini start the match..for me our 11 should really depend on theirs 11..i saw somewhere(i think goal.com)that they may start

diarra--xabi
-------------vdv
---kaka--
benzema---higuain

firtsly their attack can be easily controled by nesta-silva,if abate starts he must not paly deep he should help flamini om the markings..

imo the man that has to do well so as to have some chances this time,is dinho(i cant belive i said that :-D..

edit
and God no marek in!

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

This round seems to be an upset round. Maybe Milan will pull an upset.

no win from us must be considered as an upset,we re milan,not rubin..