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Old 24-06-2005, 06:55   #46

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Old 24-06-2005, 07:12   #47

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Old 24-06-2005, 08:50   #48

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you don't smoke, so feel free not to post in this thread.
thanks for the suggestion but i will also feel free to post in it if i like. as far as i know, it's a public forum eh?

sorry, but hiding from the fact that cigarette smoke kills you and others is not going to make it go away. that's probably why you want me to stop posting in this thread. I do hope you, and others here will quit smoking - if not for your own sake, but for the sake of your fellow non-smoking human beings like me.

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# Each year, 390,000 American die from the effects of smoking.
# Cigarette smokers have more than twice the risk of heart attack.
# Cigarette smokers have two to four times the chance of cardiac arrest.
# Giving up smoking rapidly reduces the risk of heart disease. After a number of years, the risk of heart disease diminishes to the same level as a person who has never smoked.
# A pregnant woman who smokes increases her baby's chances of infant crib death.

from the American Cancer Society website at www.cancer.org

Smoking increases the risk of lung diseases such as emphysema and chronic bronchitis. These progressive lung diseases - grouped under the term COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) - are usually diagnosed in current or former smokers in their 60s and 70s. COPD causes chronic illness and disability and is eventually fatal.

Smokers are twice as likely to die from heart attacks as are nonsmokers. And smoking is a major risk factor for peripheral vascular disease, a narrowing of the blood vessels that carry blood to the leg and arm muscles.

Smoking also causes premature wrinkling of the skin, bad breath, bad smelling clothes and hair, and yellow fingernails.

Based on data collected from 1995 to 1999, the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recently estimated that adult male smokers lost an average of 13.2 years of life and female smokers lost 14.5 years of life because of smoking.

THE GOOD NEWS IS:

"# Quitting smoking has major and immediate health benefits for men and women of all ages. Benefits apply to people with and without smoking-related disease.
# Former smokers live longer than continuing smokers. For example, people who quit smoking before age 50 have one-half the risk of dying in the next 15 years compared with continuing smokers.
# Quitting smoking decreases the risk of lung cancer, other cancers, heart attack, stroke, and chronic lung disease.
# Women who stop smoking before pregnancy or during the first 3 to 4 months of pregnancy reduce their risk of having a low birth weight baby to that of women who never smoked.
# The health benefits of quitting smoking far exceed any risks from the average 5-pound weight gain or any adverse psychological effects that may follow quitting."

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Old 24-06-2005, 08:52   #49

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dont smoke but all my friends do... they smoke marlboro mainly, they like lights the most, then medium and only the craziest one smokes the red one... that guy smokes 2 packets a day
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Old 24-06-2005, 09:02   #50

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there was a CBC radio presenter PETER GZOWSKI who died from smoking, has this written in his bio in cbc.ca. 75 cigs a day!!!

"He died of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease or what is more commonly known as emphysema, "the smoker's disease." Gzowski has often discussed and written about his addiction to cigarette-smoking. In the recent book Addicted: notes from the belly of the beast, published by Greystone Books, he wrote a chapter he titled, "How to quit smoking in 50 years or less." In that chapter he says he smoked three large packages of Rothman's a day – 75 cigarettes. He wrote, "I have what the health care system, bless its heart, calls COPD, for Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, but which everyone knows really means emphysema…."
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Old 24-06-2005, 09:02   #51

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i only like to smoke the argeeleh ... i think its called hubbly bubbly (stupid name) outside the arab world... shomo (dida) can inform u about it
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Old 24-06-2005, 09:06   #52

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it's called a hubble bubble or a sheesha or a bong here
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Old 24-06-2005, 09:08   #53

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Smoking is like everything else, consume to much of it and it will kill you. So will fat, salt, barbequed food, alcohol, sugar, wasabi and you name it.

I operate on a "do it because you want to, not because you have to" basis for most things in life. I stopped drinking caffine because I got addicted. I still smoke occationally because I like it and have no problems with limiting my consumption.

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Old 24-06-2005, 10:10   #54

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Old 24-06-2005, 10:35   #55

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sorry, but hiding from the fact that cigarette smoke kills you and others is not going to make it go away. that's probably why you want me to stop posting in this thread. I do hope you, and others here will quit smoking - if not for your own sake, but for the sake of your fellow non-smoking human beings like me.

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Kudos to Nadir! I don't smoke, never did, and gee, I have a funny reaction around second hand smoke--my lungs contract and I can't breath. OUr neighbors on the one side of us smoke like freakin' chimneys even when they are outside mowing the lawn. Yeah, I mean lit ciggie hanging oh so attractively out of their mouths while putting gas in the lawn mower and starting it up. The disgusting thing is that now both of their teenage kids smoke. the girl, 2 years y0unger than the son, held out as long as she could but hey, what the heck, she was inhaling enough second hand smoke she might as well start, so she did.

I actually feel sorry for the 2 or 3 faculty members here at school who just cannot stop smoking, even tho the building has been smoke free for 10 years. In fact, I feel sorry for anyone who's so hooked they not only can't stop but they think it's attractive AND makes them look cool and grown up.
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Old 24-06-2005, 10:53   #56

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It is not cool to smoke, but it tastes nice with beer
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Old 24-06-2005, 10:58   #57

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Actually, its not easy to quit. Studies have shown that it is much more difficult to quit smoking cigarettes than heroin or cocaine.
At the end of the day, there is too much economic gain from tobacco companies. The companies generate jobs way beyond the plant (sub-contracts, hired professionals (lawyers, accountants) and often times are willing to outbid most sponsors to have their name on race cars, tournaments and festivals. For this reason, governments are unwilling to take the final step if truly cigarettes are the killer: i.e. regulate their use. Marijuana and weed-related drugs are illegal. Granted, alcohol is greatly regulated because of its effects (impaired driving) but is also banned in public places (parks, street, etc). If the government truly cared about non-smokers and smokers for that matter they would ban smoking in public places rather than flimsy by-laws banning smoking in restaurants and bars.
The bottom line is not 'health' but as the Clinton Administration once stated 'its the economy stupid'.
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Old 24-06-2005, 11:05   #58

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I agree that smoking should be banned from places where it can adversely affect the health of others, such as offices, restaurants etc. Banning it in public (as in out in the open air) would IMO infringe on individual rights without considerably improving the health of others.

One thought could be to impose fines for those who dumb cigarette butts on the street.
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Old 24-06-2005, 11:15   #59

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Dude the air quality is just as crappy in an air conditioned room. Now I'm not advocating people being allowed to smoke in an office or anything like that. What I think is ridiculous is some of the shallow mindedness of some... not all regarding air quality. There is a lot of reasons why air quality is so bad, yet when it comes to other culprits polluting the air, all those guilty who are non-smokers are utterly silent! I'm meaning the car you drive, the hair spray one uses, and any cfc output gizmos that are out there...etc.
I had a friend who smoked a little over a pack per day. Now you talk about life and such. While diriving home from work, a non-smoker collided with him smashing his face beyond recognition. I hope he at least had a cigarette before he went. Kindly think of that one before anyone indulges about caring for his health.

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i smoke benson & hedges and sometimes when i am in a good mood i hav hash or grass.
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