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Well, scratch keeping Oliveira. He has been loaned to Real Zaragoza.

COMUNICATO UFFICIALE
14/07/2007
MILANO - L'A.C.Milan comunica di aver ceduto in prestito con diritto di riscatto il calciatore Ricardo Oliveira al Real Zaragoza.


www.acmilan.com

I noticed that the Gazzetta article Hasan posts here every morning is just a pure load of BS. None of what it said is true or has happened, and no it has not proven to be more accurate than the others this summer. I cannot remember one accurate article from them that they have predicted.

They even said Milan may keep Oliveira! They said that because they noticed rumours about Oliveira were so hot 3 days ago but they recently died out, so they are just using their logic in their rumours. Same thing goes with all the stuff they say about Cassano and Pato. Just pure logic and common sense, Gazzetta isn't that much better than the rest of the papers.

Anyway, Oliveira has been officially loaned to Zaragoza hence the #7 jersey is officially vacant who's worthy enough to take Sheva's shirt? I say bring back Sheva, but I doubt it'll happen. I'll cross my fingers n hope for Cassano instead of Dinho and possibly a few more players.

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

I think you misunderstand me Bandito...I was using Chelski as a hypothetical example, nothing more. Indeed, Pato would face the same/similar challenges, but I do think the bottom line remains the same: He would opt for a club where he would be given a starting role, or at least a spot on the bench, as opposed to joining a giant, but getting loaned out for a year or so.

I am sure Kaka was given assurances he wouldnt be loaned out...are you closer/getting my point now?

Yep Warro I get your drift now, lol I thought you was serious about that Chelsea point - My bad.

Reports in Britain suggest Milan are ready to take back Sheva for 15 Million and Sheva will hold talks with Roman on his future.

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

I noticed that the Gazzetta article Hasan posts here every morning is just a pure load of BS. None of what it said is true or has happened, and no it has not proven to be more accurate than the others this summer. I cannot remember one accurate article from them that they have predicted.

They even said Milan may keep Oliveira! They said that because they noticed rumours about Oliveira were so hot 3 days ago but they recently died out, so they are just using their logic in their rumours. Same thing goes with all the stuff they say about Cassano and Pato. Just pure logic and common sense, Gazzetta isn't that much better than the rest of the papers.

Anyway, Oliveira has been officially loaned to Zaragoza hence the #7 jersey is officially vacant who's worthy enough to take Sheva's shirt? I say bring back Sheva, but I doubt it'll happen. I'll cross my fingers n hope for Cassano instead of Dinho and possibly a few more players.

Yeah, it's hit and miss with them.

But I must say, Gazzetta has a sterling reputation in Italy. For example, last summer they speculated a lot about how Ibra and Zambrotta were close to Milan, but they went elsewhere. I was kind of unimpressed, but it turns out now that the players were indeed close to Milan.

All papers speculate, but Gazzetta is supposed to be very close to the two Milanese clubs.

Corriere and Tuttosport often speculate without anything concrete. However, I urge people to read Gazzetta because I only post transfer news here, but the paper itself is very very informative. It is also improving my Italian.

They also have in-depth interviews with a lot of people. All in all a good paper.

I post it here just so people who don't have access to it can quickly see the Milan related news (in a little more depth than channel4's Italian papers' headlines section).

Gazzetta doesn't take things out of thin air and write about them. they print things that are plausible and likely is being worked on. I am still certain Pato will come to us, although not likely this transfer window.

Sheva begs for San Siro return
Saturday 14 July, 2007
Andriy Shevchenko is set for crunch talks with Chelsea next week begging to be released for a £15m move to Milan.

Reports in several newspapers, including the ‘Daily Mirror’, ‘Daily Star’ and ‘Sky Italia’ television, suggest Roman Abramovich will meet with the Ukrainian over the next few days.

The Rossoneri have never disguised their desire to bring Sheva back to San Siro just a year after his £30m switch.

President Silvio Berlusconi and Vice-President Adriano Galliani have also repeatedly stated that the player is eager to return to the club where he played for seven years, winning the Scudetto, Champions League, Coppa Italia, European Super Cup and the Ballon d'Or.

Recently Galliani gave a clue as to what was needed to complete the deal. “I spoke to Shevchenko and he knows what he has to do.”

Next week the hitman will hold showdown talks with Chelsea owner Abramovich and beg to be released from his contract for £15m so that he can join Milan.

This would after all be a repeat of what happened last summer, when he was only sold because he personally asked the Rossoneri to be set free, supposedly so that he could learn English to communicate better with his American wife Kristen Pazik and their children.

Napoli transfer guru Pierpaolo Marino was also asked about the Shevchenko situation and commented on Pazik’s role.

“Shevchenko to Milan? There’s no point asking transfer experts, you’d be better off asking his wife.”

Another problem may lie with his former teammates, as it's rumoured many of them would not welcome Sheva with open arms after he abandoned them 12 months ago.


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There are too many things which would just not be right with us taking back Sheva:

- How will the fans take this? (He did abandon us)
- How will the team take it? (I know some dont want him back)
- The money issue (15Mill is too expensive IMO)
- The age factor (Hes 31, got another few good years in him)

When thinking about it I just dont want him back, but then again he will always remain a Milan legend. Im sure there are other supporters like me who first got interested in Milan because of Shevchenko and for the main reasons of what he gave to us and just thinking about the K22-R99-S7 partnership makes me want him to return.

I retract the statement I made yesterday about having to be patient now. After seeing Oliveira's left on loan, I'm certain some sort of deal has been worked out. After all, having 3 forwards without being certain we've got someone in place is incredibly risky. Added to that, I can imagine the management wants our big signings as a part of the squad for 23 July when pre-season starts.

I also believe should Pato join, he'll play a part in the squad rather than leaving on loan to gain experience. Rather, I imagine he'll play a similar role to what Gourcuff played last season, playing some matches here or there and being trained up by more senior players (and who better to train him up than Kaka and Ronaldo)

Originally Posted by MedellínBandit®

There are too many things which would just not be right with us taking back Sheva:

- How will the fans take this? (He did abandon us)
- How will the team take it? (I know some dont want him back)
- The money issue (15Mill is too expensive IMO)
- The age factor (Hes 31, got another few good years in him)

When thinking about it I just dont want him back, but then again he will always remain a Milan legend. Im sure there are other supporters like me who first got interested in Milan because of Shevchenko and for the main reasons of what he gave to us and just thinking about the K22-R99-S7 partnership makes me want him to return.

I agree, I would also find it hard to want Shevchenko back. There are other strikers I wanted more, because he abandoned us. But the strikers I want seem really hard to get so maybe, just maybe, Shevchenko can be an ok solution after all... I'm a bit torn though...

So we've finally gotten rid of Oliveira - hopefully we'll get a better striker in his place. Though if he does well over there will it be worth having him again (though he usually does well in the Primera), but Zaragoza may want to keep him?

MILAN IN £15M BID FOR SHEVA

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...-bid-for-Sheva

AC MILAN are waiting for the green light from Roman Abramovich in order to buy back Andriy Shevchenko for £15million.

They want to take the unsettled striker back to the San Siro, but Abramovich himself must decide if he will be sold.

Sporting director Adriano Galliani contacted the Blues at the end of last week to lodge his club’s official interest.

But he was told billionaire owner Abramovich would be the only person to decide whether the Ukrainian would be allowed to leave.

Shevchenko eventually arrived at Stamford Bridge last year for £30m because he is a personal friend of Abramovich.

But he struggled to settle and clashed with manager Jose Mourinho, who was disappointed with his commitment, fitness and attitude.

Shevchenko was at the core of the tense bust-up between Mourinho and Abramovich.


Abramovich will be the only person to decide whether the Ukrainian can leave.



Mourinho would be more than happy to wave goodbye to Shevchenko, but his future is in the hands of Abramovich.

Shevchenko is also desperate to return to Italy, but part of the problem is that Milan have not yet offered enough.

They want Chelsea to take a £15m loss, which Abramovich is reluctant to do.

Why will Shevchenko return?

_ He would receive anger and disappointment from Milan fans, coach, players...
_ His wage will be reduced
_ He can't learn English
_ And the main problem is he can't show his faith to Chelsea

Laporta has reiterated that Ronaldinho will not leave:

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index...=read&id=67469

I can see the logic in getting Sheva back, a player who can fit back into the team quickly, a player who is a natural goalscorer, and has brilliant seria A history. But again questions could arrise over his loyality. The english was thing just a excuse for greed and his wife, Kakas english is really good...

There is no logic in spending £60+ million for Ronaldinho who could flop playing against good defenders in Seria A, like Oliviera has. Whereas £15 mill on Sheva isnt as much of a risk.

Whats better? to satisfy a few fans with a big name signing like Ronaldinho. Or buy a effective goal scorer who can gurantee 16+ goals a season and who wouldnt break our bank, and the stability of the club.

If Milan are going all out, like Pirlo said.. we could do with 5 strikers. If we signed cassano and sheva now. Cassano would need a couple of months to get back into shape, sheva would need some time aswell. With Ronnie and Inzaghi having injury problems there would be enough games for all. Plus in january we would have enough space for Pato.

Sheva + cassano+ pato £34 mill if were lucky?

Next summer we might not need to redo attack unless Gilardino or inzaghi or both leave. Then we could aim for Rossi or Quagliarella

Originally Posted by Graeme C

I can see the logic in getting Sheva back, a player who can fit back into the team quickly, a player who is a natural goalscorer, and has brilliant seria A history. But again questions could arrise over his loyality. The english was thing just a excuse for greed and his wife, Kakas english is really good...

There is no logic in spending £60+ million for Ronaldinho who could flop playing against good defenders in Seria A, like Oliviera has. Whereas £15 mill on Sheva isnt as much of a risk.

Whats better? to satisfy a few fans with a big name signing like Ronaldinho. Or buy a effective goal scorer who can gurantee 16+ goals a season and who wouldnt break our bank, and the stability of the club.

If Milan are going all out, like Pirlo said.. we could do with 5 strikers. If we signed cassano and sheva now. Cassano would need a couple of months to get back into shape, sheva would need some time aswell. With Ronnie and Inzaghi having injury problems there would be enough games for all. Plus in january we would have enough space for Pato.

Sheva + cassano+ pato £34 mill if were lucky?

Next summer we might not need to redo attack unless Gilardino or inzaghi or both leave. Then we could aim for Rossi or Quagliarella

How can you guarantee Shevchenko will score 16+goals? P15M is a too high price comparing to Henry's P16M <Henry is 1 year younger>. No Shevchenko for me.

And about the part "Sheva + cassano+ pato £34 mill if were lucky?", I can do much better with P34M. Even P15M for Shevchenko <too high>, P19M is more than enough for both Pato and Cassano. I think with about P12M we can surely get both Cassano and Pato <once again, P15M for Shevchenko is too expensive>