Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Can a mod confirm that it's not me , under another username, who wrote this post. Even to me it looks like it was me who wrote the above post, praising myself

Thanx for the kind words Piscinin.

On your first question..... a Milan or Inter forum without a Juventino is like serie A without Juve .....Boring
Lol, seriously, i came here to defend Juve during Calciopoli and i got stuck here ever since

Edit : btw, Piscinin, are you a blogger under this nickname and do you use this nickname in other (Italian) forums or you took this nick here only because of Baresi ?

You are welcome Juventino. I am never against rival fans registering in a Milan-oriented forum, don't take me wrong. Just that I was curious why a rival fan seems more in-tuned with the ongoings of this club than many of the Milanisti here. At some stage, I assumed you were a Milanista simply because of that.

Take for instance the discussion on Capello vs Sacchi. You made many pointers that even some Milanisti do not know.

I appreciate your approach to the forum, as many rival fans join just to insult and later after getting their asses smacked by our old crippled veterans, they still continue their nonsense, not realizing that with each insult on us, they indirectly are mocking their very own team.

As to your question, I do use this nickname in other forums, but I am not naming names. Is it because of Baresi? Definitely.

So now my question to you. Have you come across someone with the same nickname?

Originally Posted by zlatanov

well, Tony is indeed one of the best posters around, IMO, and if a smart guy like him gets "stuck" at MM, then the forum (i.e. the posters) can't be that bad, right?

regarding your post though - this is your first post and all you do is bash Milan fans and attack one of them in particular, yet you ask yourself how come a Juventino is one of the best posters around!!!!
Is it just me or the irony here is a bit too obvious than it probably should be.

Well, if you analyze my post, I never bash Milan fans bar one. So your conclusion of me doing so is a touch off-key.

As for my attack on mzk57, it is open towards that of differing opinions. Is it an attack? Yes, no doubt about it, as I clearly stated him. Is it an unfounded aggression on my part? Definitely not. His effort to post in a different font and colour from the default clearly indicates his desire for attention. Are his comments a tad on the mentally incompetent side of things? I would say so, but it doesn't naturally means it is a definite conjecture.

Finally, I think we should end this off-topic discussion. Clearly, this is not the right place for it. Until the time comes as such, perhaps it would be wise to draw the curtains down.

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Tony, how do u read the situation with Chellini, I thought he is the next big thing. IS there any truth in Juve wanting to sell him.

Also, what do you think of the relationship between Juve and Milan?

As for Gourcuff, I think he is the perfect example of what role Pato will play if he leaves Brazil in the next two years.

It's the first time i hear about Chiellini, i'll have to check. Chiellini , together with some youngster taken from Siena, Molinaro, are the only left backs Juve has. Chiellini is pure class eventhough he's not even 23 yet. Captain and best player of the u-21 team in the last Euro. As good in LB as in CD.
And it has been said many times that Juve doesn't want to sell anyone anymore this summer, least of all Chiellini.

I will check and inform you !

Edit : The latest thing about Chiellini is this on calciomercato, from 15 minutes ago. He says he wants to be treated like one of the stars.
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=23&a=48818

Where did you hear about Juve asking 7m pounds for him ? I guess he wants better contract and it's a game going on between his agent and Juve

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

Yes mi boss!! Link me via PM if you do indeed come.

Welcome Fanos and Piscinin

Dru...why is it that you get your cough*draws*cough in bunch so easily?

Kaka has played as a second striker, and is considered as such, depending on the formation (actually its really all in the name, because Berlu insists that we play with two, so Carlo "made" Kaka play behind a lone striker, with Seedorf supporting both as a traditional "10"...or CAM....alternatively, you could consider him a second #10, in tandem with Seedorf, in support of a lone striker...whatever floats your boat.

The fact is, we are making moves to reinforce the team, and a "striker" or "support striker/#10" will be bought....of all those on the list, the only player on the "list" that could apply for the latter definition, is Ronaldinho, who, coincidentally, also gets his EU passport on Aug 31.

If we wait until then to sign him, then we can sign Pato, which I think is also on the cards.

I think Management have learned from the Kaka example, and are going after youth (in Pato´s case) rather than paying huge sums for established players/stars.
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I dunno Warro I guess they must be too tight
Seriously I got mad because I thought he was trying to fool the lesser football-educated fans.....Kaka scores lots of goals so it's natural to think of him as striker he certainly is a good striker of the ball...but not a striker per se. I KNOW Ancelotti converted him to a support striker...Kaka himself even alluded to that fact in an interview....but his natural position is CAM and a jack of all trades is rarely a master of any one

Originally Posted by Tony29.

It's the first time i hear about Chiellini, i'll have to check. Chiellini , together with some youngster taken from Siena, Molinaro, are the only left backs Juve has. Chiellini is pure class eventhough he's not even 23 yet. Captain and best player of the u-21 team in the last Euro. As good in LB as in CD.
And it has been said many times that Juve doesn't want to sell anyone anymore this summer, least of all Chiellini.

I will check and inform you !

Edit : The latest thing about Chiellini is this on calciomercato, from 15 minutes ago. He says he wants to be treated like one of the stars.
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=23&a=48818

Where did you hear about Juve asking 7m pounds for him ? I guess he wants better contract and it's a game going on between his agent and Juve

Here mate!


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Pool eye Chiellini swoop Monday 16 July, 2007 Channel 4 source

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Juventus defender Giorgio Chiellini could be on his way to Liverpool after stating that the Bianconeri have neglected him.

The former Italy Under-21 captain claims that he is worried about his future in Serie A and is waiting for club officials to clarify their plans.

“No one has called me or tried to contact me,” he revealed. “They have focused on renewing the contracts of the important players and this is logical.

“However, they haven’t considered the players who gave their all to bring the team back to the First Division. I believe I might risk playing only 30 per cent of next year’s matches and I cannot agree to this.

“I have plenty of opportunities, but I only hope someone will call me to explain what the plan is. Unfortunately no one has done this so far.”

Reports in Italy suggest that Liverpool have offered £5m for the defender, although it is understood that the Old Lady value him at £7m.

The Premiership club are focusing on Chiellini after the deal to bring Manchester United left-back Gabriel Heinze – a former Juventus target – to Anfield stalled.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

Who is better, Pasqual or Chiellini?

Eventhough they both play LB's they are very different.
Pasqual is a LB but looks the same, maybe even better as a ML. Something like Jankulovski. He looks very good when going forward and his passes are almost perfect. ( he was top assist man in 2005/06). Defensively he's ok, but not class.
Reminds me of Zambrotta when he played RM , only that Pasqual is better than Zambro was in that position but is not as good as Zambro in defending.
Actually, Dany Alves is the one who is perfect for comparisson in this case.

Chiellini is very much different. He's very young, can run a lot and he has a lot of strenght now. That's why he can play LB. But his physical constitution is more suited for a central defender. He's very tall and he can't be as dangerous when going forward like Cafu, Pasqual or Alves.
Chiellini is something like Thuram or Maldini. Can play as a LB and can be really good at it, but as time's passing and he's losing the speed, he will certanly be transfered in center of defence, where he will be a rock.

Originally Posted by Piscinin

So now my question to you. Have you come across someone with the same nickname?

Yes i did and i think i saw this nickname when i was reading comments in different blogs. But i don't visit the sites very often. I used to write "AC Milan forum/blog" on google and then i was reading comments of Milan fans (that's how i found MM )
I think i saw this nickname mostly in some Italian Milan fan forums/blogs.

Originally Posted by drucurl

I dunno Warro I guess they must be too tight

I recommend boxer briefs, or boxers, depending on what activities you plan to participate in...oh, and buying the correct size is essential

Gald we both see eye to eye on the whole Kaka thing...even if I understand why Galliani made that statement, including him as a "striker" when in truth, he really isnt a striker at all.

Though, with 10 goals in the UCL, its hard not to think of him in that way sometimes....

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Eventhough they both play LB's they are very different.
Pasqual is a LB but looks the same, maybe even better as a ML. Something like Jankulovski. He looks very good when going forward and his passes are almost perfect. ( he was top assist man in 2005/06). Defensively he's ok, but not class.
Reminds me of Zambrotta when he played RM , only that Pasqual is better than Zambro was in that position but is not as good as Zambro in defending.
Actually, Dany Alves is the one who is perfect for comparisson in this case.

Chiellini is very much different. He's very young, can run a lot and he has a lot of strenght now. That's why he can play LB. But his physical constitution is more suited for a central defender. He's very tall and he can't be as dangerous when going forward like Cafu, Pasqual or Alves.
Chiellini is something like Thuram or Maldini. Can play as a LB and can be really good at it, but as time's passing and he's losing the speed, he will certanly be transfered in center of defence, where he will be a rock.

Taiwo is better than both of them

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

Taiwo is better than both of them

You mean the one who plays in Premiership?

Originally Posted by Giorgos

You mean the one who plays in Premiership?

eh? He's the left-back for Marseille

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

eh? He's the left-back for Marseille

He didn't play in the past for Tottehnam .

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MILANO - Il Milan non ingaggera' Antonio Cassano. Lo ha annunciato l'amminstratore delegato rossonero Adriano Galliani: "Abbiamo fatto tutta una serie di valutazioni e abbiamo deciso di soprassedere" ha detto il dirigente al microfono di Sky. (Agr)

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So Hasan, can I deduce from this (alta vista babel fish isnt helping much) that we are not going for Cassano?

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

So Hasan, can I deduce from this (alta vista babel fish isnt helping much) that we are not going for Cassano?

Yes. Si. Oui.

Damn it! If my Italian serves me correctly, what Galliani said is that he will pass on Cassano this time.. is that right? or does he simply mean he is delaying his decision until the end of the market?

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

So Hasan, can I deduce from this (alta vista babel fish isnt helping much) that we are not going for Cassano?

Yup. For now Milan won't go for Cassano. They've thought about it a lot, did all sorts of evaluations and decided to postpone an eventual purchase of Cassano for some other time.