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Old 20-07-2007, 12:32   #6691

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well, Andy Gray was laughing at us ... was ... before the manager of a team that just spent 70+ mil euros, and is looking to spend another 30-40 mil, said that Milan is an example for the level his team needs to be at ... one sunny day
You can look at things that way, but you could also say that Milan were out of the title race, out of the domestic cup and only had the CL and 4th spot to aim for. Man Utd on the other hand reached the F.A. Cup Final, won the league and got to the latter rounds of the CL, which could indicate that their squad is more capable of pushing for several trophies in a season when compared to ours.

As with everything it's all subjective claptrap.

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Well, I see your point about Simic or Cafu are declining, but even if they are declining, whats make you think they are not as good or better than someone younger? For all I see, the only adventage younger players have over older players are the fact that they have the so call potential. But be real, playing in Milan needs much more than potential, they need quality. I just don't believe that there are players better than Cafu and Simic out there that would accept the bench role in Milan. As I doubt there are any players out there that could knock off Oddo and Nesta in the starting 11 of Milan at this point in time.
Stamina and energy is one clear advantage younger players have. Can Simic & Cafu honestly compare to the boundless energy shown by Alves, Lucio, Taiwo, Eboue, Chiellini? I'd rather have someone hungry to learn and hungry to win with speed on their side to make up for mistakes should they make them. Compared to Cafu who might just stand still and give up (which i've seen him do several times in the past 2 seasons) after a player is beyond him.

Alves or Zambrotta (maybe Eboue) are the only ones who i would probably pick over Oddo at right-back. I would always choose Nesta as a starting cb, but the other cb position and left-back position are areas we could find better players for. If we made strong bids for them of course.
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Old 20-07-2007, 12:41   #6692

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Alessio Tacchinardi is a free agent after terminating his contract with juve. i think he would be a good option if we can't get emerson.


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Old 20-07-2007, 12:48   #6693

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Alessio Tacchinardi is a free agent after terminating his contract with juve. i think he would be a good option if we can't get emerson.


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i was about to post that, yeah hes ok if we offer him a year deal. And look again for another player next summer.. Plus hes free which our club loves.

But if he comes he wont be a starter, nor play that much. This might make he want to move to Atlanta or samp where he will be a constant starter.
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Old 20-07-2007, 13:02   #6694

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i was about to post that, yeah hes ok if we offer him a year deal. And look again for another player next summer.. Plus hes free which our club loves.

But if he comes he wont be a starter, nor play that much. This might make he want to move to Atlanta or samp where he will be a constant starter.
sure but the same applies to players like simic, bonera, ambrosini, ...

i think if we offer him a good financial deal he would consider it. at 32 sitting on the bench of milan is ok.
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Although a fan favorite, Tacchinardi was never my favorite. Don't like his way of play, but even though i don't like the way Gattuso, Vieira, Emerson, Diarra play the football, at least i can say they are the best in this job. Tacchi was never a good player. He did have the fighting spirit and was highly rated by Lippi, but that was a long time ago.
Capello did good when he replaced him with a younger and better player - Emerson.

Tacchinardi is 32 , he's 1 year older than Emerson and a lot worse player than the Brazilian. If Juve don't want him and don't need him when their DMC's are not as good as Milan's ( for now Juve has Nocerino, C.Zanetti and Marchisio as DMC's and we can maybe count Tiago) , then why would Milan want Tacchinardi ?
You need a better player than Brocchi, not worse !
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Old 20-07-2007, 13:31   #6696

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sure but the same applies to players like simic, bonera, ambrosini, ...

i think if we offer him a good financial deal he would consider it. at 32 sitting on the bench of milan is ok.
although i like ambrosini he spends most of the season injured. Bonera is young (25) and i think eventually he will find space in the first team.

Isnt simic rumoured to go to everton?
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Old 20-07-2007, 13:37   #6697

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I think there are better players out there than Emerson, but even i think the Boar is a better option than Tacchinardi
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Old 20-07-2007, 13:47   #6698

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You can look at things that way, but you could also say that Milan were out of the title race, out of the domestic cup and only had the CL and 4th spot to aim for. Man Utd on the other hand reached the F.A. Cup Final, won the league and got to the latter rounds of the CL, which could indicate that their squad is more capable of pushing for several trophies in a season when compared to ours.

As with everything it's all subjective claptrap.
Not quite. I think there is only one way to look at that drubbing, and that is with extreme pity towards Man U.

United were dismantled 3-0. It wasn't as if they were sort of beaten etc. Sure they had some key players out, but that was a comprehensive thrashing. Your point in general is well taken though, but in particular that example doesn't hold up.
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You can look at things that way, but you could also say that Milan were out of the title race, out of the domestic cup and only had the CL and 4th spot to aim for. Man Utd on the other hand reached the F.A. Cup Final, won the league and got to the latter rounds of the CL, which could indicate that their squad is more capable of pushing for several trophies in a season when compared to ours.

As with everything it's all subjective claptrap.
there is nothing subjective in that - last season I got tired of my own posts to try to explain to people why was that Milan was so bad in the first half of the season and I am sure most people took my words with a smile seeing them as just another excuse ... curiously enough, it took Tassoti and Tognacini to come out and say the exact same stuff so that those words gained some credibility among people.

so, by now, I would have at least expected that people would stop giving last season, with all its numerous anomalies, as an example of how bad Milan and their management is.
And I am pretty sure ManU didn't have to start the season with negative account, a squad with virtually no reinforcements, and a team that was in no physical condition to do well over the first half of the season when Milan constantly had 12-13 out of 24 players injured namely because they lacked a decent prep during the summer thanks to calciopoli.

Last season, the -8 pts penalty was only one, and probably the least important, of 3-4 factors that cost the team the title race (and being out of it by the winter break) ... there were many other things that influenced the performance of the team on ALL fronts, not just one, "things" that needed time and a special training program to be take care of and we all know how that one ended.
Once that happened, Milan started playing much better on all fronts, not just CL ... unfortunately, it was too late to try to do something more in serie A as the first 2/3rds of the season had renedered such an effort literary pointless.

As for the "depth" of ManU's squad, we all saw what happened to their great team when Ferdinand and Vidic got injured ... worthy of a front page in the funny papers.
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Old 20-07-2007, 14:22   #6700

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Old 20-07-2007, 14:23   #6701

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Although a fan favorite, Tacchinardi was never my favorite. Don't like his way of play, but even though i don't like the way Gattuso, Vieira, Emerson, Diarra play the football, at least i can say they are the best in this job. Tacchi was never a good player. He did have the fighting spirit and was highly rated by Lippi, but that was a long time ago.
Capello did good when he replaced him with a younger and better player - Emerson.

Tacchinardi is 32 , he's 1 year older than Emerson and a lot worse player than the Brazilian. If Juve don't want him and don't need him when their DMC's are not as good as Milan's ( for now Juve has Nocerino, C.Zanetti and Marchisio as DMC's and we can maybe count Tiago) , then why would Milan want Tacchinardi ?
You need a better player than Brocchi, not worse !


I didn't like Rino at the time where he was playing with giunti. I was saying: "He can't this player play for Milan, a footballer with no talent. My opinion since yet started to be better coming to CL final in Old Trafford against Juve, in this game our big stars were at low performance, Rino was amazing. Besides the last 1,5 started to play in a cleanier way. His importace appeared when he got injured at Old Trafford, we lost il capitano and Rino so the game went upside down.

For Tacchinardi, i never liked him except in the Fifa 06 in Virrareal who is excellent in cutting, passing and crossing playing as a MR.

I am in 2010 with Milan in the Fifa 06 (i got PSV for 2 years, 1 Virrareal and 1 with Lyon) I am now finishing my first year in Milan (having won all the titles in all teams), but i have a lot of players retiring Nesta, Seedorf, Ambrosini, Shevchenko, Kalaz and 1 African RB.... So i want your proposals for players taking place of the retired one, I wil have 2 GK, a Danish RB, Kaladze, 2 young CB, Tiago, Keita, a 20 yeared player like Pirlo, Pirlo, a young DM, A 20 y LM great Brazilian winger, Kaka and Giggs an 2.02, 20 y Bosnian striker plus Gila (with him with about 5 games left i scored 115 goal and with Shava 75 .

I am thinking of Villa, Drogba, Mascerano (still in Brazil), Matos, Fabregas, Tony, a excellent young RM behing Kaka, a LB, a great CB for Nesta, Dani Alves or Maicon.... Your proposals....

Galliani this is the way that Milan should be playing
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Although a fan favorite, Tacchinardi was never my favorite. Don't like his way of play, but even though i don't like the way Gattuso, Vieira, Emerson, Diarra play the football, at least i can say they are the best in this job. Tacchi was never a good player. He did have the fighting spirit and was highly rated by Lippi, but that was a long time ago.
Capello did good when he replaced him with a younger and better player - Emerson.

Tacchinardi is 32 , he's 1 year older than Emerson and a lot worse player than the Brazilian. If Juve don't want him and don't need him when their DMC's are not as good as Milan's ( for now Juve has Nocerino, C.Zanetti and Marchisio as DMC's and we can maybe count Tiago) , then why would Milan want Tacchinardi ?
You need a better player than Brocchi, not worse !
Excellent post! Why the heck are we linked with such a useless player, i always felt that he is crap when he was playing for Juve. Can't even tackle cleanly, he is just trying to foul every player who got into his path, extremely low technically. I have no problem taking Brocchi over him. Can't believe somebody actually want him here.
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I didn't like Rino at the time where he was playing with giunti. I was saying: "He can't this player play for Milan, a footballer with no talent. My opinion since yet started to be better coming to CL final in Old Trafford against Juve, in this game our big stars were at low performance, Rino was amazing. Besides the last 1,5 started to play in a cleanier way. His importace appeared when he got injured at Old Trafford, we lost il capitano and Rino so the game went upside down.

For Tacchinardi, i never liked him except in the Fifa 06 in Virrareal who is excellent in cutting, passing and crossing playing as a MR.

I am in 2010 with Milan in the Fifa 06 (i got PSV for 2 years, 1 Virrareal and 1 with Lyon) I am now finishing my first year in Milan (having won all the titles in all teams), but i have a lot of players retiring Nesta, Seedorf, Ambrosini, Shevchenko, Kalaz and 1 African RB.... So i want your proposals for players taking place of the retired one, I wil have 2 GK, a Danish RB, Kaladze, 2 young CB, Tiago, Keita, a 20 yeared player like Pirlo, Pirlo, a young DM, A 20 y LM great Brazilian winger, Kaka and Giggs an 2.02, 20 y Bosnian striker plus Gila (with him with about 5 games left i scored 115 goal and with Shava 75 .

I am thinking of Villa, Drogba, Mascerano (still in Brazil), Matos, Fabregas, Tony, a excellent young RM behing Kaka, a LB, a great CB for Nesta, Dani Alves or Maicon.... Your proposals....

Galliani this is the way that Milan should be playing
Bosnian striker? Well Barbarez is a good striker but he is probably retired in your game. Ibisevic from Alemania Achen, Kucukovic from Gurthen Furt,Muslimovic from Parma, Custovic from Moscrow (Belgium), Jelic (very young) from German second division. There some others in FIFA 06.
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