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I've heard that Bernie just made a new bid for BRDC.
British GP still have a hope.


btw, due to the Super Typhoon Ma-On, the qualifying session for Japanese GP at Suzuka has been moved to sunday. the race will be held on scheduled time.
with only 4 hours from final qualifying to the race start, all teams will be work so so hard.

If the weather still wet then the only driver who possibly will win must be....

Originally Posted by argo

btw, due to the Super Typhoon Ma-On, the qualifying session for Japanese GP at Suzuka has been moved to sunday. the race will be held on scheduled time.
with only 4 hours from final qualifying to the race start, all teams will be work so so hard.

Yup. That'll be too tiring for all the teams.....
Why don't they just scrap qualifying for this race and decide the starting grid based on results of the last race?? That means Schumi will start from P12!

Originally Posted by argo

If the weather still wet then the only driver who possibly will win must be....

I'll be putting my money on hattrick of spins, Monza, Shanghai and a wet Suzuka.

Originally Posted by ilgenio

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I'll be putting my money on hattrick of spins, Monza, Shanghai and a wet Suzuka.

I would enjoy witnessing that. Absolutely...


BTW, in the 2006 season F1 will have a new contender, Midland F1 team. This new team will use Dallara chassis and will take their home-base in London.
What do you think about that, guys? What "engine" they'll have?


Latest news:
taken from http://f1.racing-live.com/

A consortium, including former world champion Nigel Mansell, claimed Saturday that they have saved the British Grand Prix at Silverstone. Kim Cockburn, a motor-racing entrepreneur who is leading Brand Synergy Ltd, which boasts Mansell on its board of directors, said she has reached a deal with Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone to keep the race at Silverstone.

She told BBC Radio 5 Live: "We've saved the British Grand Prix and we're keeping it at Silverstone."

The news comes despite the fact that she has yet to reach an agreement with the owners of the Northamptonshire circuit, the British Racing Drivers Club.

The BRDC played down similar claims from Cockburn earlier in the week as they had not seen evidence of Brand Synergy's funding.

However, Cockburn said: "We've been in discussions with the BRDC for a couple of months and we've also been in discussions with Bernie Ecclestone. Bernie was happy with us to sign a seven-year deal. However the BRDC, have decided they need more time to consider our proposal. We feel the way forward is for Bernie Ecclestone to keep the promotional rights and to promote the race at Silverstone until the BRDC can reach an agreement."

Ecclestone said the British GP had been omitted from the provisional 2005 schedule after the BRDC failed to offer a large enough fee to host the race. But Formula One team bosses have said they are confident there will be a British GP at Silverstone next year.

This is a bit unusual to have a qualifying session in a same day with the main race. but the thypoon had forced us to do so...
in the few hours the race will be started. I hope the weather will be just nice.

Here's the starting grid of Japanese GP at Suzuka:
1. Michael Schumacher / Germany / Ferrari
2. Ralf Schumacher / Germany / Williams-BMW
3. Mark Webber / Australia / Jaguar-Cosworth
4. Takuma Sato / Japan / BAR-Honda
5. Jenson Button / Great Britain / BAR-Honda
6. Jarno Trulli / Italy / Toyota
7. Giancarlo Fisichella / Italy / Sauber-Petronas
8. David Coulthard / Great Britain / McLaren-Mercedes
9. Jacques Villeneuve / Canada / Renault
10. Olivier Panis / France / Toyota
11. Fernando Alonso / Spain / Renault
12. Kimi Raikkonen / Finland / McLaren-Mercedes
13. Juan Pablo Montoya / Colombia / Williams-BMW
14. Christian Klien / Austria / Jaguar-Cosworth
15. Rubens Barrichello / Brazil / Ferrari
16. Nick Heidfeld / Germany / Jordan-Ford
17. Timo Glock / Germany / Jordan-Ford
18. Gianmaria Bruni / Italy / Minardi-Cosworth
19. Felipe Massa / Brazil / Sauber-Petronas
20. Zsolt Baumgartner / Hungary / Minardi-Cosworth

a fairly normal race tho it was a bit boring.
Michael Schumacher led the race from start-to-finish and grab his 13th victory this season. No driver seemed to touch him because most of 'em have been hold up by the others.
In the early laps Button (who uses 2 pit-stop strategy and carrying more fuel) did a massive start but later held up Sato for several laps. While Villeneuve held up his teammate Alonso, Raikkonen and Montoya. Those drivers loss time quite significantly as Schummi comfortably led his brother Ralf.

Both Schumachers did a great race and finished 1-2. and both B.A.R. drivers also did a great job as Button and Sato finished 3-4 respectively. Apparently they will beat Renault in the conctructors final standing after Alonso could finished 'only' in 5th place.
Raikkonen, not quite spectacular but helped by a good pit-stop strategy to grab 6th place. Unfortunately his teammate, DC, collided with Barrichello. Then both drivers must retired with a similar problem, front wheel damage.

Here's the race result:
1. Michael Schumacher / Germany / Ferrari
2. Ralf Schumacher / Germany / Williams-BMW
3. Jenson Button / Great Britain / BAR-Honda
4. Takuma Sato / Japan / BAR-Honda
5. Fernando Alonso / Spain / Renault
6. Kimi Raikkonen / Finland / McLaren-Mercedes
7. Juan Pablo Montoya / Colombia / Williams-BMW
8. Giancarlo Fisichella / Italy / Sauber-Petronas

9. Felipe Massa / Brazil / Sauber-Petronas
10. Jacques Villeneuve / Canada / Renault
11. Jarno Trulli / Italy / Toyota
12. Christian Klien / Austria / Jaguar-Cosworth
13. Nick Heidfeld / Italy / Jordan-Ford
14. Olivier Panis / France / Toyota
15. Timo Glock / Germany / Jordan-Ford
16. Gianmaria Bruni / Italy / Minardi-Cosworth

DNF Zsolt Baumgartner / Hungary / Minardi-Cosworth
DNF Rubens Barrichello / Brazil / Ferrari
DNF David Coulthard / Great Britain / McLaren-Mercedes
DNF Mark Webber / Australia / Jaguar-Cosworth

We are now heading for the last race of the 2004 season at Interlagos, Brasil. 2 weeks to come...

Originally Posted by argo

a fairly normal race tho it was a bit boring.

no it wasnt, but the effing japanes director kept showing sato instead of the many battles that were going on. we could have had a grandstand finish if barrichello hadn't crashed into coulthard as he could have challenged the bar's. (of course the japanese director missed that incident also)

schumi; bravo!

Originally Posted by ilgenio

I'll be putting my money on hattrick of spins, Monza, Shanghai and a wet Suzuka.

Just save your money. Suzuka was just fine.

Even if the track was wet, I still counted on Bridgestone has been top form level..

Another display of duo Schumachers takes the podium I've wanted to see. The 'untouchable' of B.A.R keeps maintaining the ambitious of 2nd could likely hard to be caught from other close competitiors..

Those race are usually called - beating the children Schumi gave no chance to hesitate if he is not the best diriver and Ferrari is not the best team in the world at the moment...
And for following centuries...
I was fascinated seeing bros on podium again... the last meeting there was lead by scandal and Ralf was diqualificated...
These races also showed that Ralf is a better driver than JPM... the both belong to the same team they both have identical cars they both leave the team next year but Ralf was second and JPM was... [I forgot ]
Button and Sato showed that Renault [Nando] has no chance to overtake BAR in constructor cup this year...
Nando has shown that he belongs to the elite of f1 pilots... [comparing him to Villeneuve, though a year break also make some impact] and has to be taken by Ferrari as soon as possible.
DC ahve made another huge mistake and has convicted himself as a f1 driver.

!Forza Schumi!
!Forza Ferrari!

Originally Posted by Lombardia

no it wasnt, but the effing japanes director kept showing sato instead of the many battles that were going on. we could have had a grandstand finish if barrichello hadn't crashed into coulthard as he could have challenged the bar's. (of course the japanese director missed that incident also)

schumi; bravo!

yeah the display on TV was filled by Sato's. but IMO it's quite natural, Lorenzo.. as a local hero he was spotted more than other drivers. probably in the next race at Interlagos we'll see Barrichello more often.

The race itself was fairly normal. there was no controversial momment such as fatal accidents, safety car deployments, extreme weather changings etc. except that crash between DC and Rubens. dammit they didn't show the replay.
lately both DC and Rubens said that it was a normal collision and not really matters.

normal collision!? and after that both pilots are out?!....hahahaha

Originally Posted by rae

normal collision!? and after that both pilots are out?!....hahahaha

car collision in formula one is just like body contact in football or hockey game. if you don't want to get any, just play chess.


btw, here's the latest news about 2005 calendar.

2005 FIA Formula One World Championship
Race / Date / Location / Notes
1. March 6th, 2005 Australia
2. March 20th, 2005 Malaysia
3. April 3rd, 2005 Bahrain
4. April 17, 2005 France Contract Under discussion
5. April 24, 2005 San Marino Contract compliance
6. May 8th, 2005 Spain
7. May 22nd, 2005 Monaco
8. TBC Europe*
9. June 12th, 2005 Canada
10. TBC United States*
11. July 3rd, 2005 Britain Contract under discussion
12. July 17th, 2005 Germany
13. July 31st, 2005 Hungary
14. August 21st, 2005 Turkey
15. September 4th, 2005 Italy
16. September 11th, 2005 Belgium
17. September 25th Brazil
18. October 9th, 2005 Japan
19. TBC China*

* the dates of the European, United States and Chinese races will be confirmed after the meeting of the World Motor Sport Council on December 10th, 2004.

I knew already Turkey will be on calendar next year. And progress rumour speculates New Zealand enthusiastic of being new host to adding tight F1 schedule. Believe me, it all depends on Bernie, when he talks about money..you must keep in faith yourself that you prepare lose a great deal of money for over years with him.

F1 makes more prodigal cost sheets, and sooner or later the weak side will fade away...it takes everything on technology side, you know what I mean...

when is ther going to be a russian gp? i heard it was in the pipeline is it still going to happen?

nunca.
russian officials do not do anything to have their own GP... total coruption...

CRB rule in favour of BAR
Wednesday October 20 2004

Jenson Button's proposed move to Williams has been turned down by F1's independent Contract Recognition Board, who on Wednesday ruled that he must either race for BAR in 2005 or not race at all.
The Board was called upon to decide Button's fate after BAR and Williams failed to reach an agreement regarding the Brit. Both teams were claiming they had legally binding contracts with him for 2005, however, given the choice Button made it clear that his preference was Williams.

Following his September hearing with the Board, the 24-year-old faced an anxious wait over his future. That wait was further extended when the Board postponed announcing their verdict from Saturday to Wednesday. But the wait has finally came to an end.

At a hearing in Milan, the Board ruled that only BAR held a valid contract for Button's services next season and that Button had no right to sign for Williams.

The CRB's ruling is final, with super licences necessary to compete in Formula One given out only to drivers whose contracts are adjudged to be acceptable.

Williams now have to find another driver to partner Mark Webber in 2005. Williams current test driver Antonio Pizzonia, BAR tester Anthony Davidson and Jordan driver Nick Heidfeld are reportedly at the top of Sir Frank's list of possible replacements for Button.

Source: PlanetF1.com

So, who will be Mark Webber's teammate next year?
My money is on Jungle Boy, unless Frank Williams goes completely nuts and signs David "Even though I'm taking a sabbatical, next year could still be my year" Coulthard.
DC will make a great Inter fan, and I'm sure many Inter fans like DC too.