All posts re: the Italian Football Scandal (Moggipoli)

Originally Posted by GRE-NO-LI

He's clearly desperate, and a desperate man can be very dangerous, I hope he can't do Milan any harm.

I would just like to add that the Lawyer of Moggi ednied he ever said that thing or gave that interview, so it is 100% made up.

Hmmm... that's good!

Ok, so, I am back in office today, and there is no news, well, no new news on this, the biggest scandal in Italian football todate.

I so definately need to learn to read/speak Italian!!!

Gio, et al...whats new?

I didn't know where to put this article, since i can't find the thread about Moggi and Juve cheating. I just read this, and if this is true i don't know what the f*** were Maldini and Gila thinking when saying this

"Gilardino: «Meritato lo scudetto della Juve, Beckenbauer pensi alla sua Germania» (Gazzetta dello Sport) Anche l'attaccante rossonero difende Lippi: "Ha fatto sempre convocazioni corrette, chiamando chi aveva meritato sul campo".
Foto articolo
Con le tensioni che attraversano il nostro calcio, gli azzurri sono particolarmente attenti a ogni parola. «Perché in questa storia delle intercettazioni, con tutto il caos che ne è seguito, già è tanto non vedere il proprio nome in mezzo - spiega Alberto Gilardino - La giustizia mi auguro che farà chiarezza». Ed ecco il rigurgito d'orgoglio azzurro: «Beckenbauer pensi alla sua Germania, piuttosto che all'Italia. Il nostro c.t. Lippi ha fatto sempre convocazioni corrette, chiamando chi aveva meritato sul campo. L'allenatore è molto motivato, come noi, e tutti siamo concentrati e determinati a far bene».

Dello scudetto perso quest'anno non chiede il «rimborso » come il suo vecchio-nuovo presidente Berlusconi, ma la pensa come il capitano Maldini: «La Juventus l'ha vinto sul campo e lo ha meritato. Penalizzazioni? Se ne parla tanto, aspettiamo gli esiti della giustizia sportiva». Ora è arrivato il momento di riprendere confidenza con il gol a livello internazionale. Quello che gli è mancato col Milan in Champions: «Ancora ripenso a quel palo colpito col Barcellona. Ma guardo anche avanti e ad un Mondiale che sono convinto sarà positivo per gli azzurri». E a proposito di Milan, Gilardino parla dell'ipotesi che Shevchenko vada via: «Toccherà a lui decidere. Io mi auguro che resti al Milan, altrimenti credo che la società sia pronta a sostituirlo con un altro campione». "



Maldini said few days ago that the Scudetto from this year should go to Juve, and now Gilardino says :
""Juventus has won on the field and deserved (the scudetto). Penalizations? Many talk about it, let's wait for the outcomes of the sportive justice"

Hey Vonim, and all other members:

I have merged all the threads I could find into this one, and I would encourage you to use this main thread, for all discussions on the current scandal.

yeah... i need more news. This thread had 20 pages in couple of days, and now only one post a day is posted. Nothing new going on?

Yup, looks as if things (as they are wont to do) have come to a screeching halt in Italy regarding this investigation/scandal...

I guess its probably more of the same ol same ol...but I would like to know just what the **** is going on...even if its a rehash...

Originally Posted by Vonim

I didn't know where to put this article, since i can't find the thread about Moggi and Juve cheating. I just read this, and if this is true i don't know what the f*** were Maldini and Gila thinking when saying this

"Gilardino: «Meritato lo scudetto della Juve, Beckenbauer pensi alla sua Germania» (Gazzetta dello Sport) Anche l'attaccante rossonero difende Lippi: "Ha fatto sempre convocazioni corrette, chiamando chi aveva meritato sul campo".
Foto articolo
Con le tensioni che attraversano il nostro calcio, gli azzurri sono particolarmente attenti a ogni parola. «Perché in questa storia delle intercettazioni, con tutto il caos che ne è seguito, già è tanto non vedere il proprio nome in mezzo - spiega Alberto Gilardino - La giustizia mi auguro che farà chiarezza». Ed ecco il rigurgito d'orgoglio azzurro: «Beckenbauer pensi alla sua Germania, piuttosto che all'Italia. Il nostro c.t. Lippi ha fatto sempre convocazioni corrette, chiamando chi aveva meritato sul campo. L'allenatore è molto motivato, come noi, e tutti siamo concentrati e determinati a far bene».

Dello scudetto perso quest'anno non chiede il «rimborso » come il suo vecchio-nuovo presidente Berlusconi, ma la pensa come il capitano Maldini: «La Juventus l'ha vinto sul campo e lo ha meritato. Penalizzazioni? Se ne parla tanto, aspettiamo gli esiti della giustizia sportiva». Ora è arrivato il momento di riprendere confidenza con il gol a livello internazionale. Quello che gli è mancato col Milan in Champions: «Ancora ripenso a quel palo colpito col Barcellona. Ma guardo anche avanti e ad un Mondiale che sono convinto sarà positivo per gli azzurri». E a proposito di Milan, Gilardino parla dell'ipotesi che Shevchenko vada via: «Toccherà a lui decidere. Io mi auguro che resti al Milan, altrimenti credo che la società sia pronta a sostituirlo con un altro campione». "



Maldini said few days ago that the Scudetto from this year should go to Juve, and now Gilardino says :
""Juventus has won on the field and deserved (the scudetto). Penalizations? Many talk about it, let's wait for the outcomes of the sportive justice"

Do you honestly expect them to belt out their indignance and call Juve cheats? Remember football players are well groomed for public speaking- with that comes a lot of diplomatic comments.

Frankly, I think Gilardino was trying not to disrupt the team's preparations ahead of the World Cup and tbh Juve players worked their socks off for the Scudetto...it is not their fault Moggi is a cheat.

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

Yup, looks as if things (as they are wont to do) have come to a screeching halt in Italy regarding this investigation/scandal...

I guess its probably more of the same ol same ol...but I would like to know just what the **** is going on...even if its a rehash...

I can read Italian so I will give you the low-down:

1) Galliani has been confirmed as Lega Calcio president by his colleagues
2) Buffon was questioned about the betting scandal again today but he appears to have passed with flying colours. He is not under investigation
3) Cannavaro said that he was surprised only Moggi was on the wire-taps...cheekily adding..."he was friends with everyone"
4) Italy are contemplating placing foreign refs in Serie A next season
5) Guido Rossi called for an end of conflict of interest in soccer
6) Milan's lawyer is dismayed as to why we our even involved in this. He is trying to get our name removed and thinks we are victims.

Yes Hasan, i know. Nobody is asking them to say :Give us the Scudetto, it's ours. But i think it would be better if they stay neutral and not ask for the Scudetto to stay in Torino. Especially not our captain

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

I can read Italian so I will give you the low-down:

1) Moggi has been confirmed as Lega Calcio president by his colleagues
2) Buffon was questioned about the betting scandal again today but he appears to have passed with flying colours. He is not under investigation
3) Cannavaro said that he was surprised only Moggi was on the wire-taps...cheekily adding..."he was friends with everyone"
4) Italy are contemplating placing foreign refs in Serie A next season
5) Guido Rossi called for an end of conflict of interest in soccer

You "stole" my post Hasan, i was just about to post it

I have only one more thing to add, and it's nothing special but it's not a good news for us.



De Biase, the head of the "inquisitory office" in the early 80s scandal said today :

"Contesta il fatto che il capo dell'ufficio indagini non faccia indagini, insomma, vuole che Borelli interroghi tutti per farsi una sua idea.....

Al diavolo la fretta, non si possono fare indagini anomale.....

Dopo aver letto il rapporto dei Carabinieri, risulta secondo lui che l'azione era mantenere il potere sul calcio e non alterare gli esiti delle partite, quindi non articolo 6, ma articolo 1 pesante..... illecito di potere e non sportivo....."

Translation:
De Biase says is not right that they (sportive judges) won't do investigations. He wants Borrelli to hear everyone and decide from there. This can't be "speedy", there can't be anomalities in the investigations. After having read the "results" of the Carabinieri's investigations, he has come to the conclusion that what was done was to maintain the power in calcio and not to fix the result of matches.

Basically, this man who sent Milan to Serie B is trying to say that not Juve but Moggi should be punished. And at the end he said something that not 1st article but 6th article is important here which has nothing to do with sport.
I have no idea what position he has now and how influental he is, but if what he's saying is true, then Moggi may end as the only fuc**d up party in this scandal

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

1) Moggi has been confirmed as Lega Calcio president by his colleagues
.

You mean Galliani ????

Originally Posted by Vonim

You mean Galliani ????

hahahahahahaha

yes...I have Moggi on my mind hahahahahah

Originally Posted by Vonim

Yes Hasan, i know. Nobody is asking them to say :Give us the Scudetto, it's ours. But i think it would be better if they stay neutral and not ask for the Scudetto to stay in Torino. Especially not our captain

I see what you are saying man...but it would be weird to get those Scudetti now...it would feel strange.

Originally Posted by Vonim

You "stole" my post Hasan, i was just about to post it

I have only one more thing to add, and it's nothing special but it's not a good news for us.



De Biase, the head of the "inquisitory office" in the early 80s scandal said today :

"Contesta il fatto che il capo dell'ufficio indagini non faccia indagini, insomma, vuole che Borelli interroghi tutti per farsi una sua idea.....

Al diavolo la fretta, non si possono fare indagini anomale.....

Dopo aver letto il rapporto dei Carabinieri, risulta secondo lui che l'azione era mantenere il potere sul calcio e non alterare gli esiti delle partite, quindi non articolo 6, ma articolo 1 pesante..... illecito di potere e non sportivo....."

Translation:
De Biase says is not right that they (sportive judges) won't do investigations. He wants Borrelli to hear everyone and decide from there. This can't be "speedy", there can't be anomalities in the investigations. After having read the "results" of the Carabinieri's investigations, he has come to the conclusion that what was done was to maintain the power in calcio and not to fix the result of matches.

Basically, this man who sent Milan to Serie B is trying to say that not Juve but Moggi should be punished. And at the end he said something that not 1st article but 6th article is important here which has nothing to do with sport.
I have no idea what position he has now and how influental he is, but if what he's saying is true, then Moggi may end as the only fuc**d up party in this scandal

You mean that Moggi may end up as NOT the only ..... or the ONLY