Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Personally I think Milan lost more than just two players this summer, they actually lost their leader and their go-to man. On top of that, I don't think MIlan is really an attractive place for players now except of Brazilians.

As to why I seems to be in a hurry for Milan to sign some good quality players. Well, thats b/c I think the pool of talented players are getting thin, as most teams would like to have 15-16 starting players in their squad. On top of that, I know you will disagree with me, I think teams are more toward, I don't mind holding onto my players or selling them at the right price market. Well, except for Porto.
In short, my true point is that I actually still have faith in Galli to get a deal or two done, but he will end up paying what the other teams asked instead of his prefer price, and if thats the case, why don't they make the deal now instead of a month later.

Well, here's how I see it differently from you, I suppose. Right now teams are looking at all the money Real Madrid is throwing around and they're hoping to cash in on their star players for big money. Right now, they're holding out and not accepting bids that are actually fairly reasonable. So if you buy star players now, you're paying a premium. But as we get a little farther along into the mercato, those same teams will start to realize they're not going to get quite as much for those players as they think in the current economy or it will get to the point where they may have their eye on other players but need to sell first, then it will be easier to negotiate with them. I think it's smart not to jump in and pay 22 million euros for Fabiano if you can get him for 18 later, so maybe that's why the market is moving so slowly for Milan and other clubs right now. None of us really know what's going on behind the scenes, so it just seems to me the best course is to wait and see what happens.

Originally Posted by Jeff

A good post, I like it. Several comments:

1) Panic buy example: Oliveria. But of course, we also make mistakes by thinking a little bit too long, too late.

2) I think Oddo does have his contribution; but it's interesting how he lost his crossing flair.

3) I'm cheered up by your optimism, but it's hard for fans to have faith in the management when you sold your best player for money (at least that's the case for some folks here) and when you lost one of the best players to retirement, with only an American-born defender whom no one knows about (which is of course unfair to the player + no good for the team).

On a sidenote: really not sure if R80 can take up Kaka`'s role. I'm still doubtful; I think if he had wanted to be real determined to catch up (in terms of his physical fitness), he would have done it last season. But he didn't. I wonder why.

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Thanks Jeff. I understand your concerns, because right now we're kind of in the Twilight Zone. But in the long run things have always turned out fine for Milan before, so I'm not giving up the ship until I see it going down. Maybe we have to grab a few buckets and throw some water overboard once in awhile, but the old ship is still seaworthy.

As for Ronaldinho, I'm actually fairly optimistic. He played pretty well early in the season, but later on he wasn't getting opportunities and maybe he lost a little focus. He's used to being the center of attention and I'm sure the past two seasons have been difficult for him. But this year it seems the offense will run through him and that's exactly the situation where he's always thrived before. He has every reason in the world to bust his ass to prove all his doubters wrong and this is his only opportunity to ever play in a World Cup again. It's hard for me to imagine that he won't take advantage of the opportunity that's been placed in front of him. The timing is right. He's still at an age where he should be in his prime. It remains to be seen if he can do it, of course, but I like his chances. If he doesn't do it now, his career is finished.

Originally Posted by slifersd

Man, you need to move on from that CL win in 2007, as does everyone else in the world. Seriously, people, it was a lucky win! We were pounded by Liverpool for most of the game and got lucky with a freekick to the shoulder to take the lead.

As I said earlier in this thread, nobody wins the Champions League without being lucky. Even if you crush your opponent in the final, somewhere along the way something will have gone your way to get you to that point. There are too many good teams for it not to be otherwise. But the point is that Milan did win the Champions League that year -- without Shevchenko and without summer transfers. That's the bottom line. The sky didn't fall in 2006. It's not falling now.

Most probably Pirlo is leaving soon.

Hope it is not true.




Sul sito Qsvs.it troviamo un'altra notizia che sara poco gradita da noi tifosi milanisti. Infatti ci sarà un altro grande addio in casa Milan. Andrea Pirlo lascerà Milano e andrà a Londra. Le voci circolavano già da parecchie settimane, da quando Berlusconi l'aveva pubblicamente messo sul mercato. Ogni giono si sono susseguite indiscrezioni alle quali Galliani rispondeva dicendo: "offerte non ce ne sono". In realtà le dichiarazioni di Ancelotti: "Il Chelsea non ha ancora fatto un'offerta ma il mercato è ancora lungo" unite alla gaffe di Pippo Inzaghi “….adesso Kakà e Pirlo non ci sono…” non lasciano dubbi. Al momento opportuno ci sarà l'annuncio ufficiale, probabilmente prima della partenza dei rossoneri per gli Stati Uniti. A quel punto la società deciderà se investire il ricavato su un centrocampista dalle caratteristiche simili (D'Agostino o Ledesma) o se concentrare gli sforzi economici per il terzino sinistro e utilizzare buona parte del ricavato per il bilancio. Se cosi fosse Jankulovski, sul quale Leonardo nutre serie perplessità circa le sue attitudini da difensore, verrebbe impiegato stabilmente a centrocampo. Staremo a vedere, quello che è certo è che l'anno prossimo nel bene o nel male sarà un Milan completamente diverso da quello degli ultimi anni.

I hope Hernanes will be the player Milan will insert in our midfield. Ledesma is not near Hernanes, also D'agostino.

As expected, we need more money for some reason. The books need to be super secured.

I also hope Milan's ultras will continue what they have started.

Why does everybody think Ronaldinho will put an effort now just because it's a World Cup season?
What about putting an effort for your club - Milan?

Shouldn't he have put his effort last year then? Why didn't he?

If you don't want to play for Milan then leave

Originally Posted by mrki

I hope Hernanes will be the player Milan will insert in our midfield. Ledesma is not near Hernanes, also D'agostino.

As expected, we need more money for some reason. The books need to be super secured.

I also hope Milan's ultras will continue what they have started.

Continues what?????

HA Ha Ha....

Huntelaar is not in France. The story that he is talking to Olympique was invented by a Hacker.

Amaising how it was spread around the world.

Originally Posted by Maltese Charlie

HA Ha Ha....

Huntelaar is not in France. The story that he is talking to Olympique was invented by a Hacker.

Amaising how it was spread around the world.

I'm French and I read that on a French site that reported what was said in a newspaper from Marseille (so a local newspaper) ... so we're far from a news spread around the world !!

Anyway, it's probably false as it seems the player is closer and closer from Stuttgart.

Milannews.it is reporting that Leonardo will be opting for either a 4-3-3 OR 4-2-3-1 OR 4-3-2-1

no it said we'll be using the 4-3-3 formation but 4-3-2-1 and 4-2-3-1 can also be used...it said sometimes we'll use 4-4-2 to attack through the wings...but the main formation would be 4-3-3

any one fancy seeing a brochure of adebayor key competences arsenal fans are really desperate to get rid of this player- http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog...style-brochure

Originally Posted by Fret

Why does everybody think Ronaldinho will put an effort now just because it's a World Cup season?
What about putting an effort for your club - Milan?

Shouldn't he have put his effort last year then? Why didn't he?

If you don't want to play for Milan then leave

I keep reading all these comments about how Ronaldinho showed nothing last year and they always conflict with my own memory of some of his performances last autumn. So I did a search of last year's match threads and posts about Ronaldinho. From the opener against Bologna until around the end of November, posters were raving about Ronaldinho for the most part (I'd say the comments were close to 90% positive). This was especially true in certain matches (the victory over Inter being one). Ronaldinho is playing great! God bless Ronaldinho! One person even commented that it looked like the old Golden Ball Ronaldinho was back! Then along about December I started reading comments about how difficult it was for Kaka, Pato and Ronaldinho to all play in the lineup together. Then Beckham came along and Ronaldinho was primarily on the bench. There was talk of a rift between Ronnie and Carlo.

So it seems my memory was right. Ronaldinho played very well most of the time when he got the opportunity -- especially in the first few months. He was obviously discouraged by the situation in the second half of the season, but the situation is different now. He will be in the lineup every week. The offense will run through him. He has every reason to be motivated not only for Milan victories, but to prove wrong his naysayers and to win back his spot for Brazil's World Cup team. Everything is lined up for him as well as it could possibly be. So I just don't understand why, at 29, so many of you are so convinced that it's not possible for Ronaldinho to put one season of injury and another of limited and sporadic opportunities behind him and return to form.

Of course, it's possible that he won't return to form. Maybe he will just go through the motions. If that's the case, Milan should just go ahead and release him to go back to Gremio. But the truth is that Ronaldinho has everything to gain by responding to the challenge and opportunity that lies ahead of him. His very career is at stake. His reputation is at stake. Those are the situations that bring out the best in champions. So I would not bet against him.

And if you don't remember him playing well last autumn, here's the search results. Browse through it yourself.

http://www.milanmania.com/forums/sea...earchid=313839

Originally Posted by johncharles365

any one fancy seeing a brochure of adebayor key competences arsenal fans are really desperate to get rid of this player- http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog...style-brochure

LOL... actually it's really fun...

I guess Milan fans are being easy on Seedorf afterall

Watching Milan Classics right now. Two things:

1. The team has not changed very much from the early 2000s and
2. Boy I wish Seedorf and Pirlo moved the way they used to!!

Originally Posted by MiamiMilanista

Watching Milan Classics right now. Two things:

1. The team has not changed very much from the early 2000s and
2. Boy I wish Seedorf and Pirlo moved the way they used to!!

can you share the link with us ?

Let's keep in mind that Pirlo was injured last season, and made his way back late. It took a while for him to get back to fit, and at the same time, Beckham was pulling all the strings in the midfield. Obviously not good for Pirlo's confidence.

That being said, there is absoloutely nothing that suggests he will be close to his best next season, and he is getting older. If the right offer comes in from an obsessed fan like Carlo, we should sell him. Remember, Milan always values the players' opinion in a potential transfer, so that's why Seedof didn't leave... In fact, that's is why a quarter of our list hasn't packed up!