Winter Mercato

I wouldn't be that happy if we got Baptista - his goal record isn't very good (apart from his seasons at Sevilla). Though it would be intersting to have a big, strong target man at Milan.
And I'm not sure if Liverpool would get rid of Kuyt after buying him last season, they'd probably get rid of Crouch first.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Ahh, ok
I thought you were talking about what Zlat said above (about Milan keeping their potential transfers secret and calling them Mr. X so other teams won't join the race) . That's why i said no secrecy is really needed if one of Dinho or Eto'o is Mr.X

Tony, the secrecy is needed especially with those 2 clubs: Milan and Barca.
1. Because both clubs are friends and they don't want to harm each other interest.
2. Both Ronaldinho and Etho are superstars which costs really huge sums of money.

I am sure that such dealings must be settled first between the presidents of both clubs, and only when an agreement is reached in that level, the club officials will be involved to finalise all details of the transfer and the media get informed.

Ok so baptista is ''great and if not that great he can be played on every position under carlo and can learn alot under other milan players''. Can someone explain to me why or in which way is he different from oliveira? He is brasilian, he sucked last season, he aint wanted by anyone else including his team. Ok, he is from real(!) that RO wasnt, big deal.

I mean, instead of giving faith in our quick-buy-RO we loan him (and loose alot of cash on him) just to make similar transfer again this year? It may work but even RO may have worked right? After all he is coming to challenge inzaghi for his spot in the team as a 3rd attacker and so he is faaaar away from any great signing if u ask me.

peters, we are all (at leat I am) putting a good face on about Baptista...trying to see his potential benefits (if we do get him, which Galliani has denied in recent press reports), as opposed to focusing on his weaknesses, which are many.

One of which, was a wonder-own goal scored while at Sevilla...I mean he headed the ball into his won net with such force and venom, that my only thought was that he forgot which goal he was to score in!!

I am sure u can find it on youtube

i remember it...
cos it was against barca

Originally Posted by hishamilan

here are other FAMOUS names:
1) Steven Appiah : previous italian exp. only 26 and would backup gattuso and pirlo
2) Ivanchitz : great technical midfeider will also be more famous after euro 2008 hosted by austria he is also cheap
3) zabaletta : great young captain the next j.zanetti he can play in many roles and also not exp.
4) Dirk Kuyt : he will be competing with voronin+babel+crouch+torres and i am sure he will be avilable for around 13-15 mil. he is unbeleivabely milan style a fighter ,...,...
COME ON ZLAT TONY DRU KIM .... WHERE ARE THE COMMENTS ?

about those Middle eastern players, you can safely scratch them off any lists - Milan would hardly even remotely consider bringing such unproven players (some of them having some experience in European football means close to nothing here), who are also non-EU to make matters even worse.

Dirk Kuyt is at Pool to stay and I don't see him leave anytime soon unless his form drops and Pool want to get rid of him, in which case, Milan would hardly be lining up for his services.

I like Appiah a lot despite his not-so-successful stint at Juve but he is a non-Eu player and that would make things difficult for him to come to Milan should we show any interest at all.
He is a very good alternative to players like Ambro, Diarra, and gattuso, though - experienced, still young and not very expensive.

Zabaleta is fine and useful player but for now don't see Milan being seriously interested in him as he's hardly someone who could improve on what we already have ... once we start looking for rejuvenating the squad, he could be an option.

Ivanchitz - don't know him and doubt Milan will ever want to know him either

Originally Posted by Maltese Charlie

Tony, the secrecy is needed especially with those 2 clubs: Milan and Barca.
1. Because both clubs are friends and they don't want to harm each other interest.
2. Both Ronaldinho and Etho are superstars which costs really huge sums of money.

I am sure that such dealings must be settled first between the presidents of both clubs, and only when an agreement is reached in that level, the club officials will be involved to finalise all details of the transfer and the media get informed.

Yes Charlie, totally agree with everything you said, but you know, Galliani says "We Will sign player X" .

If Galliani knows Milan will sign him then i guess things have been settled with Laporta and with Dinho so all you now need is Dinho to get his EU passport ( the very same can be said about Eto'o)

If this is the case then i really don't understand why have Laporta, Berlu, Eto'o and now even Dinho* been lying to us when they were saying "Dinho and Eto'o will not be sold" "Laporta will have to emigrate if he sells us Dinho so now we can forgfet about him" "I will stay at Barcelona"

* The lates from Dinho is from few hours ago
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=23&a=49611
"It's always pleasant to know that Milan are interested in you, but i'm really happy here and all i think about now is Barcelona. I'm not thinking about any other team that isn't called Barcelona, because this is where i see my future

Damnit guys, i promised i won't interfere in Dinho discussions, but you're forcing me to do it

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Yes Charlie, totally agree with everything you said, but you know, Galliani says "We Will sign player X" .

If Galliani knows Milan will sign him then i guess things have been settled with Laporta and with Dinho so all you now need is Dinho to get his EU passport ( the very same can be said about Eto'o)

If this is the case then i really don't understand why have Laporta, Berlu, Eto'o and now even Dinho* been lying to us when they were saying "Dinho and Eto'o will not be sold" "Laporta will have to emigrate if he sells us Dinho so now we can forgfet about him" "I will stay at Barcelona"

* The lates from Dinho is from few hours ago
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=23&a=49611
"It's always pleasant to know that Milan are interested in you, but i'm really happy here and all i think about now is Barcelona. I'm not thinking about any other team that isn't called Barcelona, because this is where i see my future

Damnit guys, i promised i won't interfere in Dinho discussions, but you're forcing me to do it

I forgot to add that i find this strange but only in case Dinho or Eto'o are player X . If Galliani is talking about someone else then it's all ok

Edit : And i like Zlat's last reply. When i was reading it i felt like i was the one who wrote it

its about time Europe take a lot at the Middle Eastern players, they are so talented that it is really surprising how they still play in the low-class leagues in the Middle East.. Nashat Akram, Younis Mahmoud, Yaser Al Qahtani, Mohamed Zidan (Bremen), Ali Karimi (went to Qatar again) are all players that could easily make the jump into CL football.. i am so surprised how Ali Karimi did not manage to fit in German football, people used to compare him to Zidane and Maradona..

also as someone mentioned earlier that we did assign Desailly to be our African scout but has not spotted anyone yet for this summer.. i wonder could there be any other Non-EU players that are close to becoming EU that we did not talk about?

and you notice that Galliani says the signing will be a Non-EU player, even though he says that the player might get his EU passport soon.. this only proves that if Mr. X gets his EU passport then another Non-EU will arrive this summer (Pato), if he doesn't then Mr X will be the Non-EU signing.. that is why Pato has not been finalised just yet..

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

peters, we are all (at leat I am) putting a good face on about Baptista...trying to see his potential benefits (if we do get him, which Galliani has denied in recent press reports), as opposed to focusing on his weaknesses, which are many.

One of which, was a wonder-own goal scored while at Sevilla...I mean he headed the ball into his won net with such force and venom, that my only thought was that he forgot which goal he was to score in!!

I am sure u can find it on youtube

He scored another amazing own goal against Tottenham
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOc80P0p-Ew

If a Tottenham player scored the goal the way Baptista did, we'd be saying he was a genious

Originally Posted by Tony29.

This way Galliani looks like someone who has absolutely no idea who will Milan buy and is only trying to buy some time.

Berlusconi has the guts. He will lie to you but at least he will say things directly. "I will buy Dinho" " Dinho and Sheva won't come to Milan- period " ...but Galliani never had the guts to say smthg directly to the folks.
No wonder he's the least popular from the trio, among the Milan fans and among other teams fans !

yeah i have a horrible gut feeling they have no idea who to buy, after not being able to land Ronaldinho, eto, Suazo, Henry or Sheva the list starts to wear thin. Stuck for ideas, and really after the january transfer window we should have started scouting for players then.

If it is the case that we have been holding out all this time on Ronaldinho then really we have wasted a huge chunk of the window and only they are to blame.

But to be honest i dont think i could think of a decent striker with the crudentials to play for Milan :- Seria A experience ( or has performed in europe to a level that they can survive in italy), proven goal scorer, isnt seasoned, is more of a second striker opposed to another gila/inzaghi.. Only players i can think of are Rossi (seems to be staying at Man U), Cassano (psycho) and Quagliarella (not available). The managements crudentials seem to be just : Brazilian... And that really does my head in.

Like ive said before, if we just end up with Baptista this summer i will not be happy! Last night i could sleep so i wrote the squad and ages. We have at least 5 players who are over 35 (not including goalees) and next season its only going to get worse.

sorry if i seem moany all the time, its only because i dont want our brilliant team lose out on silverware again because of the managements naive attitude.

Originally Posted by Graeme C

yeah i have a horrible gut feeling they have no idea who to buy, after not being able to land Ronaldinho, eto, Suazo, Henry or Sheva the list starts to wear thin. Stuck for ideas, and really after the january transfer window we should have started scouting for players then.

I couldnt disagree with you more...but humor me...after R10, who is on the same level, that is available or could be available this mercato?

My point is this: As management have already stated, in particular, Berlu:

There are few "available" players out there of the standard that would improve Milan...especially in the attacking department.

Remember we are talking about a top striker, preferrably(but not exclusively) with Serie A/UCL experience...a proven goal scorer, and further, a player to field alongside Ronaldo, who, unless injured, is an "automatic starter" in our forward line....a player that would complement Ronaldo, and not detract.

I am drawing a blank presently, hence me asking for your assistance....so if you feel that management dont have a "plan B" then u may b right, but I cannot concieve that Berlu et al didnt stop and think: "So..whom should we get if Etoo, Henry and R10 fail to come to Milan?"

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Yes Charlie, totally agree with everything you said, but you know, Galliani says "We Will sign player X" .

If Galliani knows Milan will sign him then i guess things have been settled with Laporta and with Dinho so all you now need is Dinho to get his EU passport ( the very same can be said about Eto'o)

If this is the case then i really don't understand why have Laporta, Berlu, Eto'o and now even Dinho* been lying to us when they were saying "Dinho and Eto'o will not be sold" "Laporta will have to emigrate if he sells us Dinho so now we can forgfet about him" "I will stay at Barcelona"

* The lates from Dinho is from few hours ago
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=23&a=49611
"It's always pleasant to know that Milan are interested in you, but i'm really happy here and all i think about now is Barcelona. I'm not thinking about any other team that isn't called Barcelona, because this is where i see my future

Damnit guys, i promised i won't interfere in Dinho discussions, but you're forcing me to do it

Tony, if Mr. X is ronaldinho, I do not jump into the conclusion that all the involved people are lying to us, but for me it means that the unofficial talks which Berlusconi refered to, are either not complete,
Or for an uknown reason it's not the right time to be public.
Tony, such transfers are also very sensitive and they have to be dealt with great care.

Did you guys hear about the latest curse popular among football players ?
It goes like this : "I hope Juve want to buy you but you reject them"

The latest victim of the curse is German international Torsten Frings who rejected a very good offer from Juve, less than two months ago.

"Werder Bremen midfielder Torsten Frings could be out for six months after tearing cruciate knee ligaments.Germany international Frings, 30, suffered the injury during Bremen's pre-season friendly at Paderborn on Tuesday night.


I'm sorry you had to learn the hard way Torsten but what the hell were you thinking when you rejected the once in a lifetime oportunity ???
And i'm sorry Mrki isn't here . He was praising Frings when he decided to stay in Bremen.



P.S : I feel sorry for the guy, though. Nasty injury, especially for someone in his age !

Tony:

Looks like he will only be out for a couple of weeks...think I saw the article on soccernet..but not sure.