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The £100 million price on Villa's head by Valencia makes it hard to sign him now ...

Originally Posted by NAMMY

The £100 million price on Villa's head by Valencia makes it hard to sign him now ...

Thats obvious when trying to get players from Spain, what have Barca said about their players? The buy out clauses are set so no team can meet them however realistically when they want to sell the players the price is much less, I think Valencia would sell him for £25 - £30 Mill.

Hasan nice one, to be honest Id rather avoid dealing with Madrid at all cost.

Originally Posted by NAMMY

The £100 million price on Villa's head by Valencia makes it hard to sign him now ...

if Milan considers itself a great club, they should be ambitious enough and pay all the arms, legs, and tails Valencia is asking for to let Villa go



btw, Inter are looking good ... from a Milan fan's perspective

P.S. Here are links to some of today's friendlies:
http://myp2p.eu/Saturday.htm

Riquelme may be slower than an old slug, but otherwise he's sheer CLASS... you see, the guy is a classic number 10, gifted with great creativity, technique and pass skill. I'll be glad if we sign him, definitely.

i hope we dont sign Riquelme,Old and slow player.

Hi everyone, firstly I want to say congrats to the great number of posts and insights on the current state of our beloved football team. I have actually been reading and reflecting on your posts for the last year or so and thought it’s about time I stop being lazy and start participating in your great forums.

Just to let you know I have been a Milan fan all my life and have this complete obsession with team, probably like most members.

Anyway, when it comes to the whole Milan transfer busy, well what is there to say. I am in two minds, no matter how we much we are all disappointed and are critical of the management for what seems their lack of ambition or stinginesss; we are always in the front line in all competitions. We are never discounted from winning anything even if we do have the oldest collection of superstars.

Our team policy is conservative in relation to the fact that we always buy players in their 30's but the importance is that these players do their jobs. When it comes to a player like Riquelme, he was the Argentina’s most important player in this years Copa (even if people say its Messi, everything goes through him), when brazil stopped him they stopped Argentina. Imagine Milan with his passing ability, the through passes for Ronaldo and kaka, the weight off the shoulders of Pirlo to run the game by himself. Milan's options would open up so much more on the field of play. People can’t say that if you stop Pirlo you stop Milan anymore or Kaka, we have another play maker. Plus he scores goals, great goals. I personally think he would add something to the team and would help Milan in many different aspects. We should buy him, and it shouldn’t stop us from getting any other players, including a great striker etc.

BUT

I only dream of us getting Ronaldinho, pls GOD LET IT HAPPEN.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

if Milan considers itself a great club, they should be ambitious enough and pay all the arms, legs, and tails Valencia is asking for to let Villa go



btw, Inter are looking good ... from a Milan fan's perspective

Honestly, what harm would it do to put an offer of £25-30 million on Valencia's table for Villa? He's just as good, if not better than Etoo and the worst Valencia can say is no. However, i appreciate it's far too late for the Spanish team to accept an offer seeing how they start their season shortly. I just think it was a missed opportunity to 'test the water', though maybe we can come back next january/summer.


I'm sure Milan will look good from an Inter fan's perspective when we play some friendlies Zlat Suazo played well again, a real livewire. Suazo & Ronaldo could have been sweet, still nevermind ... onwards & upwards

Does Riquelme have Eu-passport? If he has I will be extremely happy with Riquelme wearing Milan shirt. I'm always obsessed with 10 number like Riquelme, Aimar... But if he doesn't have, I'm not sure who I want between Pato and Riquelme. If Riquelme is 5 years younger, definitely Riquelme.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

Honestly, what harm would it do to put an offer of £25-30 million on Valencia's table for Villa? He's just as good, if not better than Etoo and the worst Valencia can say is no. However, i appreciate it's far too late for the Spanish team to accept an offer seeing how they start their season shortly. I just think it was a missed opportunity to 'test the water', though maybe we can come back next january/summer.

and what makes you think, Jim, Milan didn't try to do that ... the lack of rumours in the papers or Galliani not coming out on national TV and declairing "Milan wants Villa"?

In fact, if rumours are to be believed, we did show interest in Villa but maybe his pricetag turned us off - Chelski for one were rumoured not long ago to have offered something like 70 mil for him or whatever but the Valencia president was insisting that if someone wants Villa, that club will have to pay the 120 or 150 mil in his buy-out clause.
I for one doubt that Chelski were ready to offer 70 mil for Villa but if there were such an offer, I am sure it was for A LOT of money - it's Chelski, after all.

I'm sure Milan will look good from an Inter fan's perspective when we play some friendlies Zlat Suazo played well again, a real livewire. Suazo & Ronaldo could have been sweet, still nevermind ... onwards & upwards

Suazo was indeed very impresive, at least the spead of the runs he put up there, but chances are all of this enthusiasm to impress his new club and fans will be gone and forgotten once he realises that he is a bench candidate #1 at Inter.

Ancelotti says Riquelme won't be joining Milan and Milan isn't interested in buying the Argie.

Carlo also said that if Pato arrives it will only be in January. He had some nice words about Baptista and says how he thinks the best role for Baptista would be in midfield.

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=all&a=49853

Originally Posted by zlatanov

and what makes you think, Jim, Milan didn't try to do that ... the lack of rumours in the papers or Galliani not coming out on national TV and declairing "Milan wants Villa"?

What makes you think they did? Some half-baked rumours that no one really believes? You know as well as i do that all these 'buyout clauses' are just to scare people away. Everyone knows people won't pay these insane amounts of money for a player. If Valencia were offered a good deal and the player wanted to go, they may just take it.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

Suazo was indeed very impresive, at least the spead of the runs he put up there, but chances are all of this enthusiasm to impress his new club and fans will be gone and forgotten once he realises that he is a bench candidate #1 at Inter.

But that wouldn't happen here. Here he'd be at the very least 3rd choice striker, if not a starter alongside Ronaldo or Gilardino (depending on who's injured, needs a rest, etc). So his good form and positive spirit wouldn't dissipate with us in the way you think it will at Inter.

Jim, in this case you can't blame the board for not buying Suazo.
You know very well they tried to buy him, they offered more money than Inter did and they even signed the contract with Cagliari.
Suazo chose Inter and there was nothing they could do.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Jim, in this case you can't blame the board for not buying Suazo.
You know very well they tried to buy him, they offered more money than Inter did and they even signed the contract with Cagliari.
Suazo chose Inter and there was nothing they could do.

I'm not blaming the board for not signing Suazo this summer. You're right, they tried to get him but he had chosen Inter. I'm happy that at least we tried.

However, we were strongly linked with him last season and he was a realistic option just like Oliveira. But we chose to ignore him and when you weigh things up, he was the better choice. Not because 1 year on we can see Oliveira's time here didn't go well, but because looking at how each player was situated at the time, Suazo had everything going for him whilst Oliveira was the bigger risk.

So it's more regret than blame i guess.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

What makes you think they did? Some half-baked rumours that no one really believes? You know as well as i do that all these 'buyout clauses' are just to scare people away. Everyone knows people won't pay these insane amounts of money for a player. If Valencia were offered a good deal and the player wanted to go, they may just take it.

I am not saying Milan did make an offer, I am saying that we don't know if they did or didn't make an approach ... it's you who is assuming that we didn't go after Villa, and why is that - because there weren't any rumours about it in the papers (actually there were such rumours sometime in June) ... hence, my mentioning of rumours suggesting the opposite since your assesment of Milan's policies is obviously guided by what you read or rather don't read (in this case) in the papers.
My point is that, in reality we have no clue what Milan has done or hasn't done for a fact.

But that wouldn't happen here. Here he'd be at the very least 3rd choice striker, if not a starter alongside Ronaldo or Gilardino (depending on who's injured, needs a rest, etc). So his good form and positive spirit wouldn't dissipate with us in the way you think it will at Inter.

you are probably right but it wasn't me or Milan who made that decision, it was the player and that would mean he'd be the one to bare the consequences.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

I am not saying Milan did make an offer, I am saying that we don't know if they did or didn't make an approach ... it's you who is assuming that we didn't go after Villa, and why is that - because there weren't any rumours about it in the papers (actually there were such rumours) ... hence, my mentioning of rumours suggesting the opposite since your assesment of Milan's policies is obviously guided by what you read or rather don't read (in this case) in the papers.

Why would they feel the need to keep it top secret like a piece of military information? There's no reason to. Where's the harm in saying 'We've approached Valencia over an official £25 million deal for Villa and they've said no'?

Saying that no bid has been made because there is no official statement is just as easy as saying a bid might have been made but we just weren't told about it. You prefer to think you're right by not ruling out a bid due to the theory 'we the plebs don't need to be told, don't need to know everything' and i prefer to think i'm right because no official notice was made, no approach was reported.

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