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Old 19-05-2009, 06:09   #61

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Nobody ever whistled Brocchi or Gila. Ever. I can confirm that, because I was present at some games. San Siro crowd actually loved Brocchi, because he played with heart. Seedorf is the first player since I can remeber, that is whistled by the San Siro fans...
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Old 19-05-2009, 06:13   #62

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Seedorf is beeing boo because milan's fans want to see R80 on the field

They don't understand why Ancelotti keeps continuing starting with him ( even after bad performance) instead of trying other players.

Through Seedorf, I think that Ancelotti is the target !!

That's the thing we can blame to Ancelotti.. keeping Zambro ( how many assits after a long run this season ???) ...Pirlo ( worse season ever) ; Seedorf ( no comment); Kaka ( same as Pirlo) instead of trying a turnover.

Did he try to find "automatisme" with Pato/Kaka/R80 by let them playing 3 or 4 full games in the row ??? NO !!!!

Worse : you remember in november/december when everybody was saying that R80 is back ...Ancelotti was affected was his favorite Kaka was no longer number 1 !! What happen : after the preparation in Dubai, we have never seen R80 anymore ( ok he was injured but you understand what I am saying)

Yesterday we read Napoli's intentions with R80

Today we read that Van Basten will become the new coach and R80 wants to stay ( meaning : we are sure of Carlo's departure)

Let's be patient and I am sure we will see a different Milan next year !!!
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Old 19-05-2009, 06:15   #63

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Nobody ever whistled Brocchi or Gila. Ever. I can confirm that, because I was present at some games. San Siro crowd actually loved Brocchi, because he played with heart. Seedorf is the first player since I can remeber, that is whistled by the San Siro fans...
I'm 100% sure that he wasn't "booed" but he was whistled ... (which is about the same). I can confirm that as I almost watched each game from Milan for the last 2-3 years.


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Worse : you remember in november/december when everybody was saying that R80 is back ...Ancelotti was affected was his favorite Kaka was no longer number 1 !! What happen : after the preparation in Dubai, we have never seen R80 anymore ( ok he was injured but you understand what I am saying)
It's your own interpretation ... it's also due to tactical reasons: R80 doesn't move a lot on the pitch actually.
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Old 19-05-2009, 06:24   #64

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i heard that from a friend , he said brocchi and gila were booed but iam not sure if oddo was included or not
i never noticed any player except seedorf and i havent noticed it very well
mostly i hear abt it from others , i dont concentrate on hearing the fans
i also loved brocchi coz u played with heart and gave his all and never complained abt the bench


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i think it aint fair to boo seedorf coz they prefer ronaldinho , its not seedorf's fault after all
in November and December i believe everybody was saying ronaldinho is coming back but havent made it yet coz he was suffering physically , his fitness wasnt good at all but he was trying and getting better
but now he totally lost it , he cant run and he cant move
the biggest problem i believe is all of them prefer the left side even maxi
only seedorf plays in center and right , a bit less then left but still can do it but kaka pato ronaldinho they all prefer the left side and cant do good at the right
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Old 19-05-2009, 08:29   #65

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I do not agree gents !!

Ok it's def. not Seedorf 's fault and boo him is unfair..he s a player totally dedicated to Milan

..but I am not the one who said that with such talend players we must win the scudetto

..and instead of putting those talented players in best way to develop "joga football"..what have we seen : the worse Milan ever !!!

When you select players >30 years ...you might wonder if the coach is taking the right decision

Whose to blame ????

When Kaka came back after his injury : he started 15 min --> 30 min -->the whole game and even when he was playing bad..he was starting ( to get the rythm)

Did Ancelotti do the same with R80 ???? No..only 15 min against X; 20 against Y

How can you recover the rythm if you are not playing !!!!

You want another example : Sheva

Carlo claimed that he was the best in Dubai..did he start any game or even played more than 20 min ???

If you bench..how can you be motivated when the coach acts like that ??!!!

R80/Kaka/Pato can play together and really good..they just need a few games and more trust form Carlo



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Old 19-05-2009, 08:38   #66

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there is a big difference bet ronaldinho and any other player
what ronaldinho is doing in those 15 mins doesnt make him earn more time
when u have a small chance u try to concentrate on earning a bigger one and fight to convince the coach of deserving more important role in the team
kaka can run and move and fight while ronaldinho gave up when he lost is place
i dont mean kaka is doing great now , i do agree that he is not playing well at all but at least he doesnt need to lose weight
playing more makes the player more fit mentally and being more accurate in passing and shooting but it doesnt help with losing the ball or giving the ability to run in the feild
if he cant do that for himself , i cant blame ancelotti
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Old 19-05-2009, 11:29   #67

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Booing Seedorf doesn't do any good. He has been booed all season and Carlo hasn't changed anything. Only thing it does is destroy his, and the other players', spirits. It would be much better for the team, and much more sympathetic, to cheer for them in good times AND in bad times. Look at Gilardino, sure he wasn't the player we hoped for, BUT I can't help but feel that when he had hit bad form, one of the reasons it just got worse and worse, was because people booed him.

Secondly it's just not very classy to boo your own players. Would you boo Kaka if he started playing poorly in two years? Or would you have booed Maldini had he had a bad season? The fact is that, even though Seedorf is the worst player in the starting 11 at the moment, he still has done great things for us. He has been a true Milanista, and despite his poor season, when he leaves, I'll still remember him as a great player.
It depends on what players get booed for, and also depends in the mentality of the player. When a player is booed, many times it's hoped the reaction will be one of trying to prove doubters wrong. In Seedorf's case, and the team against Udinese, the booing/reaction was mainly to do with their attitudes (and Seedorf's attitude for a long time). My original point was that they didn't deserve cheering as they were ridiculous, and such an attitude in a match is shameful, so if they did get booed for this reason, then I'm afraid it's their fault. As for Gila, I'm not sure why he got booed tbh, and I don't agree he deserved to be booed.

If Kaka plays like Seedorf does now and shows the same attitude, then I'm afraid it's his own fault if he's booed, same with Maldini.
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