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Old 30-01-2002, 10:18   #61
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Old 30-01-2002, 10:21   #62

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Old 30-01-2002, 10:33   #64
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Old 30-01-2002, 10:35   #65
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Old 30-01-2002, 16:08   #71
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Old 30-01-2002, 17:03   #72
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Alý, I know you are using that punchline "There is no God but..." to arouse an interest in others about your religion. However as you might have realized yourself too, it works the opposite way.

Because you know whoever accepts the validity of this argument automaticaly becomes a muslim and those who refuse it becoming infidels. So, what is the purpose of publicizing a religion specific tenet among those who belong to other religions ?

It is only rude to subject people to this decision and make them choose between faith and infidelity. The best reaction you might expect is. (as it goes in your language) Lekum dinikum levmiyeddin. (Sorry for my Arabic.)

So, friend drop that bottom line and try to impress people with the richness of your personality. Share the things you have gained by having that faith and then you can ask people to learn about your religion. You can't even sell tomatoes without first impressing people with the quality of the stuff you are selling.

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Old 31-01-2002, 01:39   #73

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Alý, I know you are using that punchline "There is no God but..." to arouse an interest in others about your religion. However as you might have realized yourself too, it works the opposite way.

Because you know whoever accepts the validity of this argument automaticaly becomes a muslim and those who refuse it becoming infidels. So, what is the purpose of publicizing a religion specific tenet among those who belong to other religions ?

It is only rude to subject people to this decision and make them choose between faith and infidelity. The best reaction you might expect is. (as it goes in your language) Lekum dinikum levmiyeddin. (Sorry for my Arabic.)

So, friend drop that bottom line and try to impress people with the richness of your personality. Share the things you have gained by having that faith and then you can ask people to learn about your religion. You can't even sell tomatoes without first impressing people with the quality of the stuff you are selling.

For Once I agree with you,
Let's see what happens,
Ali do you accept it that you started the religious accusations against me or no.


And Vineyards where is your smilie
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Old 31-01-2002, 02:39   #74
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I'm a muslim, and i agree with what Vineyards said....
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Old 31-01-2002, 02:39   #75

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Alý, I know you are using that punchline "There is no God but..." to arouse an interest in others about your religion. However as you might have realized yourself too, it works the opposite way.

Because you know whoever accepts the validity of this argument automaticaly becomes a muslim and those who refuse it becoming infidels. So, what is the purpose of publicizing a religion specific tenet among those who belong to other religions ?

It is only rude to subject people to this decision and make them choose between faith and infidelity. The best reaction you might expect is. (as it goes in your language) Lekum dinikum levmiyeddin. (Sorry for my Arabic.)

So, friend drop that bottom line and try to impress people with the richness of your personality. Share the things you have gained by having that faith and then you can ask people to learn about your religion. You can't even sell tomatoes without first impressing people with the quality of the stuff you are selling.
it is, lakum diinukum waliyadiin.. surah al-kaafirun verse 6...
and it is one of the amazing things in the qur'an that the verses are in a structural poetry with heavy meanings and u know what? not even an arab can read the qur'an in the correct way..
anyway, that verse does not mean that the muslims should just dont care of ppl's religion, if u want to define a verse means u have to know a lot, the history behind that verse, the style of the language, another verses that has correlation with it, etc..
and I can tell u that the verse refers to the refusal of Muhammad (SAW) of the kaafiruun's (the disbelievers) effort to cut away Muhammad's (pbuh) dawah (or telling ppl about islam and invite them to islam)... that time Muhammad (pbuh) was unstoppable and the disbelievers knew that this religion is not just a religion, it is a deen, it is the truth purpose of human's living in this earth, but unfortunately they had this arrogance feeling of having power so that they refused Islam.. Allah (SWT) then sent this devine verses in the surah al-kaafiruun telling those the disbelievers that Muhammad (pbuh) will never follow their path..
the signature of Ali is the syahadah which ppl say to become officially a muslim, BUT the syahadah should be taken with 2 witnesses (this is the fiqh law) and there are so many consequences behind that syahadah, it's not just u say that and kabooom u r a muslim, no.. after taking the syahadah means that u have the obligation of full submision to Allah by His laws, and to take Muhammad SAW as the role model of a true muslim..
soooo, I didnt see any faulties in Ali's signature and ppl here should not become so paranoid about it.. if any of u guys r willing to know more about islam may be some of u can pv me send it to [email protected], isnya Allah I will be glad to tell u about Islam, the religion which I was born to and it's not only a religion it is something that rules every single thing that I do..
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