Vonim

Kui · 28-05-2006, 08:06

Geeez folks! From hatin Juve and use all that energy to go and attack someone who is still at this moment a Rossoneri (Sheva) is beyond all comprehension. SHAME! SHAME on those who did!

FORZA MILAN! FORZA SHEVA!

Vonim · 28-05-2006, 09:25

We're getting deeper and deeper into this. Now they have Meani asking for referee on Fiorentina match last year ( we won 2:1). Even Galliani's voice is on the tapes :

http://www.goal.com/it/articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=59596
http://www.goal.com/it/articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=59616

Vonim · 28-05-2006, 09:51

And more bad news ( sorry, articles are too long and i don't have the time to translate them) . Shortly :

1. Meani was aranging secret meetings between Collina and Galliani
2. Meani telling Galliani about his conversations with Bergamo and about the aranged things.
3. Meani involved in Ibrahimovic' ban last year, ( firstly it was 2 matches ban, and then 3 matches ban. The third match was against us)
4. Meani knew the names of refs against Inter in CL last year before they were announced
5. Bergamo telling Meani : "I need to speak with the Grande Cappo (Galliani), give me his number. This was before Fiorentina match.
6. Meani asking for referees on Fiorentina-Milan match last year.

It looks bad, and many more things were said, but i can't translate it all, sorry. I hope these are all lies and nothing else, but i don't believe Gazzetta gave false conversations.

Bram · 28-05-2006, 10:37

it's getting uglier and uglier. It looks like we were in the middle of the scandal too. I hope not, but if u look at it realistically : Galliani and Berlusconi have a lot of power. Berlusconi had been in corruption trials before, ... I hope i'm mistaken, that the Gazzetta is mistaken, but the Gazzetta is a reliable newspaper.

Kui · 28-05-2006, 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bram

it's getting uglier and uglier. It looks like we were in the middle of the scandal too. I hope not, but if u look at it realistically : Galliani and Berlusconi have a lot of power. Berlusconi had been in corruption trials before, ... I hope i'm mistaken, that the Gazzetta is mistaken, but the Gazzetta is a reliable newspaper.

Where in the Gazzetta did they have this??? I couldnt find it on their online newspage.

Graeme C · 28-05-2006, 11:43

i couldnt find anything on this, Galliani has already publicly said he had no secret meetings with Collina..... The worry is that we are being linked to this, but in our case it is a third party who is supposed to be doing deals for us.... I can see Galliani getting fired over this if it is proved true....

Juves Directors played Seria A, i can see in Meanis defense he was trying to create a Anti moggi system...

sheva_4ever · 28-05-2006, 12:05

May someone clarify things to us more...I hope things are bunch of lies

Hasan Rossonero · 28-05-2006, 12:28

They are not in the gazzetta and tgcom.it has not reported it either.

This just seems a rehash of what as already there against us. Inter's president also was informed of what referees were going to be there for the CL...

I don't think we are in any more trouble than we were.

Vonim · 28-05-2006, 14:42

I think that all the articles were written in Tuttosport. But i didn't see any of them in other newspapers, so there is a hope those were lies. I took them from www.Goal.com .
I wouldn't worry too much until i see a confirmation in some more reliable newspaper, but i wouldn't take everything so easy. We'll be in huge trouble if this is true. Meani was asking for specific refs against Fiorentina, and Galliani knew about that. It's serious allright. If it is true of course, and i hope it isn't .

Milanista4ever · 28-05-2006, 14:45

We know who controls Tuttomerda....maybe even Moggi himself writes their articles!

I think we shouldn't worry about it...not yet at least

Vonim · 28-05-2006, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milanista4ever

We know who controls Tuttomerda....maybe even Moggi himself writes their articles!

I think we shouldn't worry about it...not yet at least

How can they write things like that if they aren't true at all. Are they allowed to do so ? To make up some conversations? they should be forbidden from now on

devoted_dm · 28-05-2006, 14:56

So the latest rumours say that the prosecution will ask for these penalties for the different clubs involved (according to a very reliable Swedish website, in this case getting their news from a newspaper based in Naples):

- Juve relegated to Serie B
- Lazio and Fiorentina relegated to Serie C/1 (due to numerous offenses)
- Milan having points deducted before the start of next season

Vonim · 28-05-2006, 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by devoted_dm

So the latest rumours say that the prosecution will ask for these penalties for the different clubs involved (according to a very reliable Swedish website, in this case getting their news from a newspaper based in Naples):

- Juve relegated to Serie B
- Lazio and Fiorentina relegated to Serie C/1 (due to numerous offenses)
- Milan having points deducted before the start of next season

I don't undersatnd why will Juve go in B, and Lazio + Firentina in C ? Wasn't it supposed to be the other way around ?
And why will the prosecution ask for points deduction for Milan. On what bases will they ask that ?

devoted_dm · 28-05-2006, 15:03

Well, it's a tiny article, so it doesn't say what the reasons are. However, I'm guessing that not all the evidence against the clubs has reached the media.

sheva_4ever · 28-05-2006, 15:28

if(juve to b)
watchfootball();
else
go****urmother();

28-05-2006, 08:06	#736
Kui Registered User Join Date: 05 1999 Location: I ke one a Kaku'ihewa Fave Players: Roby Donadoni, Chico Evani, Franco Baresi	Geeez folks! From hatin Juve and use all that energy to go and attack someone who is still at this moment a Rossoneri (Sheva) is beyond all comprehension. SHAME! SHAME on those who did! FORZA MILAN! FORZA SHEVA! __________________ The sure provisions of my lord, Attend me to all my days. O may thine house be mine abode, And all my works be praise. There would I find a settled rest, Where other go and come; No more a stranger nor a guest, But like a child at home. My Shepherd will... KZION Radio

28-05-2006, 10:37	#739
Bram Registered User Join Date: 05 1999 Location: Oostende,Belgium Fave Players: Savicevic, Leonardo, Baggio, Maldini, Pirlo, Kaka,	it's getting uglier and uglier. It looks like we were in the middle of the scandal too. I hope not, but if u look at it realistically : Galliani and Berlusconi have a lot of power. Berlusconi had been in corruption trials before, ... I hope i'm mistaken, that the Gazzetta is mistaken, but the Gazzetta is a reliable newspaper. __________________ Is Milan and Italy back to rise the world again??

28-05-2006, 11:43	#741
Graeme C Moderator Join Date: 05 2005 Location: England Fave Players: Boban, Van Basten, Kaka	i couldnt find anything on this, Galliani has already publicly said he had no secret meetings with Collina..... The worry is that we are being linked to this, but in our case it is a third party who is supposed to be doing deals for us.... I can see Galliani getting fired over this if it is proved true.... Juves Directors played Seria A, i can see in Meanis defense he was trying to create a Anti moggi system... Last edited by Graeme C; 28-05-2006 at 11:45.

28-05-2006, 09:25	#737
Vonim Registered User Join Date: 02 2006 Location: Montenegro Fave Players: Gullit, Savicevic, Weah, Kaka	We're getting deeper and deeper into this. Now they have Meani asking for referee on Fiorentina match last year ( we won 2:1). Even Galliani's voice is on the tapes : http://www.goal.com/it/articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=59596 http://www.goal.com/it/articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=59616

28-05-2006, 09:51	#738
Vonim Registered User Join Date: 02 2006 Location: Montenegro Fave Players: Gullit, Savicevic, Weah, Kaka	And more bad news ( sorry, articles are too long and i don't have the time to translate them) . Shortly : 1. Meani was aranging secret meetings between Collina and Galliani 2. Meani telling Galliani about his conversations with Bergamo and about the aranged things. 3. Meani involved in Ibrahimovic' ban last year, ( firstly it was 2 matches ban, and then 3 matches ban. The third match was against us) 4. Meani knew the names of refs against Inter in CL last year before they were announced 5. Bergamo telling Meani : "I need to speak with the Grande Cappo (Galliani), give me his number. This was before Fiorentina match. 6. Meani asking for referees on Fiorentina-Milan match last year. It looks bad, and many more things were said, but i can't translate it all, sorry. I hope these are all lies and nothing else, but i don't believe Gazzetta gave false conversations.

28-05-2006, 12:05	#742
sheva_4ever Registered User Join Date: 05 2006	May someone clarify things to us more...I hope things are bunch of lies

28-05-2006, 12:28	#743
Hasan Rossonero Registered User Join Date: 12 2004 Location: Canada Fave Players: Rivera, Maldini, Del Piero, Baggio, Nesta, Pirlo	They are not in the gazzetta and tgcom.it has not reported it either. This just seems a rehash of what as already there against us. Inter's president also was informed of what referees were going to be there for the CL... I don't think we are in any more trouble than we were.

28-05-2006, 14:42	#744
Vonim Registered User Join Date: 02 2006 Location: Montenegro Fave Players: Gullit, Savicevic, Weah, Kaka	I think that all the articles were written in Tuttosport. But i didn't see any of them in other newspapers, so there is a hope those were lies. I took them from www.Goal.com . I wouldn't worry too much until i see a confirmation in some more reliable newspaper, but i wouldn't take everything so easy. We'll be in huge trouble if this is true. Meani was asking for specific refs against Fiorentina, and Galliani knew about that. It's serious allright. If it is true of course, and i hope it isn't .

28-05-2006, 14:45	#745
Milanista4ever Registered User Join Date: 02 2006	We know who controls Tuttomerda....maybe even Moggi himself writes their articles! I think we shouldn't worry about it...not yet at least

28-05-2006, 14:56	#747
devoted_dm Registered User Join Date: 09 2000 Location: Norway Fave Players: Pirlo, Nesta, Gattuso and Roberto Baggio	So the latest rumours say that the prosecution will ask for these penalties for the different clubs involved (according to a very reliable Swedish website, in this case getting their news from a newspaper based in Naples): - Juve relegated to Serie B - Lazio and Fiorentina relegated to Serie C/1 (due to numerous offenses) - Milan having points deducted before the start of next season

28-05-2006, 15:03	#749
devoted_dm Registered User Join Date: 09 2000 Location: Norway Fave Players: Pirlo, Nesta, Gattuso and Roberto Baggio	Well, it's a tiny article, so it doesn't say what the reasons are. However, I'm guessing that not all the evidence against the clubs has reached the media.

28-05-2006, 15:28	#750
sheva_4ever Registered User Join Date: 05 2006	if(juve to b) watchfootball(); else go****urmother();

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