Milan Want Ronaldinho

Originally Posted by zlatanov

I personally am not a fan of Dinho coming to Milan but still I am not sure that the performances of the pair Kaka-Dinho in the NT give us that good of an idea how they would/could play in Milan together - these are predominantly friendly games we've seen them play in and it's dif to judge based on that only as motivation is not at a high in those instances ...

also the current coach, Dunga, has yet to really prove himself that he has the quality to make them, or the NT as a whole, work together as I haven't really seen any convincing performances from his team, expect probably that 3-0 over Argentina but even that one was in a friendly game and the opposition seem pretty much not in the mood for a game to begin with.
All in all, I am not sure Dunga has what it takes to take full advantage of the players he has available as he has yet to prove himself at a serious level in non-friendly games ... actually, I am not even sure if he's had much coaching experience before he got the NT job.

Even the world cup wasn't much of an indicator, IMO, as in that moment players like Kaka and Dinho, who are leaders in their teams and rarely get to rest, were coming out of a tiresome season and it is not easy performing at an even like that in a moment like that.
And Pereira's tactics with playing Kaka and Dinho behind 2 strikers may not have been the right thing to do as Dinho would often find himself stranded way too far away from his comfort zone near the PA of the other team as he had to track back too deep IMO ... again, questionable tactics and use of the two players.

But I agree that, in general, to give more balance to a team with Kaka and Dinho in it, that team would have to play with 1 clear striker, like Barca, or with one striker and Dinho as a support striker, which is what Milan's favourite "romb" formation was about when we had a good support striker at our disposal, Sheva ... and good, attacking backs to give more width and support on the flanks.

Pretty much agree with all you said there. I found the biggest problem last night was Ronaldinho held the ball far too long, which meant Kaka would get picked up by the time he gets the ball.

Then they also played too far apart with neither going forward far enough to support Wagner Love (and with Robinho almost non-existent a lot of the match, it's all the more harder). I'm sure Ancelotti could work them together better than both Dunga and Pareirra, but right now I'm a little afraid at the thought of risking so much money when they simply haven't performed together.

However, should we get him, then I'd push him further forward into the supporting role (which he should be able to do well as he was a forward at the start of his career) and get him to use play on the ball far, FAR more quicker (yesterday he reminded me of Seedorf during the first half of the season). The fact is, at Milan the system has been built around Kaka and Pirlo in midfield, and Dinho coming in would mean he'll have to adapt into the system we play, rather than changing everything around.

For games where we need to attack more, that supporting forward role is better for him, but for bigger matches (like CL), he will probably have to change his role to be similar to Seedorf, such as pushing out on the left (which he does often anyway) when defending and really working hard that side to make sure support is provided for the LB. This is another element that's difficult to predict, as he can provide defensive support to some degree, but it'll have to improve in our side.

MILAN SET FOR £89M RON BID - REPORTS
Reports in Spain suggest that AC Milan are prepared to pay £89million for Ronaldinho.

Spanish daily AS claims that Milan chief Silvio Berlusconi is prepared to pay the 125 million Euros required to trigger Ronaldinho's buy-out clause at Barcelona.

The reports claim that Milan will make a series of bids for the striker, but if they do not succeed then such is Berlusconi's desire to bring him to the San Siro, he will meet the enormous buy-out clause, which would comfortably break the world transfer record currently held by Real Madrid, who paid £45.6 million for Zinedine Zidane in 2001.

AS goes on to claim that an agreement has already been reached between Ronaldinho and Milan, that will see him sign a five-year contract worth around £6m a year, plus exclusive image rights.

Ronaldinho has been in extensive contract negotiations with the Catalan giants to improve his current deal, which runs until 2010.

However, talks have stalled, leaving the prospect of the Brazilian joining the European champions open.

May be only rumors but still, Kaka and Ronaldinho in the same team would be scary. Although 90 million does seem quite a lot, we could probably get 3-4 top quality players all capable of fitting in to our first team lineup for that kind of money.

Old stuff.

It's a done deal. He won't reject a team like Milan and barca need the money.

Originally Posted by Kaka--7thUCL

It's a done deal. He won't reject a team like Milan and barca need the money.

wanna bet?

hitman, Ronaldinho hasn't rejected it and neither has LaPorta, it's Berlusconi, just like that Toni move etc. He always does this, but this time, hopefully it's a twisted plan of some sort and we still sign R10, just being positive

bah, all this ronaldinho dreaming all the time because nothing else (ie nothing at all) is happening with milan atm. Stop dreaming hehe... i wont believe it even if it really comes true.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...673051,00.html

Milan supremo Silvio Berlusconi has admitted he dreams of bringing Barcelona star Ronaldinho to the Rossoneri.

Berlusconi has never hidden his admiration for Ronaldinho and would love to bring him to the Giuseppe Meazza.

Milan have previously insisted they would be at the front of the queue to sign Ronaldinho should Barcelona ever decide to sell him.

However, Berlusconi concedes that is unlikely to happen as Barcelona would never sell the Brazilian maestro.

"The dream, it's useless saying, is still Ronaldinho, but Barcelona president (Joan) Laporta said that should he sell him to me, not only would he not be club president anymore, but he could be exiled," Berlusconi told Gazetta dello Sport.

"In the immediate future I don't think we can sign him."

Berlusconi also refused to rule out a renewed move to sign Real Madrid midfielder Emerson.

A move for the Brazilian midfielder collapsed at the 11th hour after Real pulled the plug on the deal, but Berlusconi has hinted they could rekindle the deal.

"I only know the negotiation was set to be closed," added Berlusconi.

"We thought we had already signed Emerson, but I don't exclude the possibility to sign him in the next days.

"He's a quality player who would complete our midfield."

Emerson has pleaded with Milan to make a new move for him as he is not happy at El Santiago Bernabeu.

"I thought everything was sorted out, but my agent called to say there were problems," Emerson told Gazetta dello Sport.

"He told me to stay calm and be patient, so I took his word for it. As I wait, I am back training with my team-mates.

"Lets wait and see what will happen.

"I have another two years on my contract with Real, but if I have the choice then I certainly want to leave. I have spoken of Milan many times, they are my objective.

"In this moment I don't think of money, but only to feel good and find a different environment than this one.

"I look for respect, something I think I deserve for what I have done in football."

Emerson also warned Real they would have to consider the ramifications if they decide to keep him against his will.

"If Real do not lower their economic demands, they must be prepared to accept the responsibility and consequences of keeping me here," concluded Emerson.

The performance and attitude of Barca and Dinho
will be key if this deal happens. I see if Dinho is not
happy, he could be donning the Rossoneri kit in Jan.

but watch, you know the greed of Chelsea will stick
their noses into this and pursue him.....

I know that Milan will do what is right.

I doubt even chelsea would be willing to pay what we are for ronaldinho, infact nobody would, don't know what LaPorta is thinking, if I were him, not just becasue r10 is my favourite player and me being a fan, but if i were laporta -- in his shoes lets say, then I'd definitely sell him.

I dont think Laporta is being insensible at all. In fact, I can understand his choices. Ronaldinho is THE star in the Barcelona team---whether or not he plays to his potential. Messi is still too young to take over from him, and Henry is the new signing---there is always a chance that he might not perform up to expected levels. The last thing he would want is to sell R10, then have Messi crack under the pressure, and Henry perform at subpar levels or stay out injured, and then having Etoo insult a teamate in the media . The fans will never forgive him.

So I think he is playing it safe. Keep R10 and see how useful he is to the team. If the team gels without him, then they can safely sell him next year, maybe for a bit less, but they will still get a substantial amount, and by then the Barca fans may have forgotten about him....

I think he'll stay at Barcelona, as I totally agree with the post above me.

r10 to milan in 08

With Etoo´s injury, I really dont see R10 going anywhere this season

Originally Posted by Kaka--7thUCL

r10 to milan in 08

And in 08 we wil say R10 to Milan in 09