Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by Giorgos

Make a break at the conversation, does anyone of you interested in basketball, if so to open a tread, you know eurobasket and othe things. Just each of you say yes or no to decide what to do.....

While I am not, I am sure many here are....but this wouldnt be the section in which to start it...Members Forum maybe?

Originally Posted by jtelly

I think there is more likelihood of Beckham coming to Milan than Ronnie going to the states...speaking of america, milan should give me a mercy-signing and get a yank so i can get all my non-footie friends here to be interested (at least for a year). someone mentioned altidore, and there are a few youngsters that, under the right circumstances, might become useful. if we can buy georgian, liberian, and others and turn them into great players, why not a hardworking american kid?

Altidore looks like a REALLY good prospect (I live in NYC and watch all the Red Bull games). He has a lot of potential and is only 17. Plus he looked really good in the U-20s as well. But signing him to tap into a US market wouldn't work. 95% of americans don't know who he is. If he were more popular, then yeah, I could see Milan signing him as a good tactic to increase Serie A appeal in the states.

Americans only watch soccer during the world cup. The only way a US soccer player can make a name for himself is if the US goes far in the WC and one player like Altidore scores a lot of high profile goals. The US media would do the rest and hype him up. Now you've got yourself a player that could atttract attention in the states.

But then Milan or (more likely) English teams would find themselves in a bidding war with MLS teams. The MLS would realize that having their top player poached out from under them would be a HUGE slap in the face for MLS expansion and money would come from somewhere in excess of what the player is really worth.

Someday American players will be superstars. Unfortunately, they probably will end up playing for the Premiership before Serie A

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

Welcome ACTRADER!!

Ok, so, a weekends absence, and you rumormongers cant come up with anything better than:

Baptista to Milan
Baptista + Cassano to Milan
Pato to Milan
Riquelme to Milan/Not to Milan?

Come on guys!! What am I paying you for? Unearth the truth, or dont come to me at months end for your paycheque!

er...er.....bye bye Quaresma??

In reading of the antics of other clubs in the transfer market, I find that we have conducted ourselves quite well, especially when compared to other clubs...so why we are constantly berating Galliani is beyond me...

Schusters comments about "having a suitcase full of cash" is a prime example of what I would never want to hear coming from Milan.

NB: I never said our conduct was exemplary, just not as bad as some would want you to believe.

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

In reading of the antics of other clubs in the transfer market, I find that we have conducted ourselves quite well, especially when compared to other clubs...so why we are constantly berating Galliani is beyond me...

Schusters comments about "having a suitcase full of cash" is a prime example of what I would never want to hear coming from Milan.

NB: I never said our conduct was exemplary, just not as bad as some would want you to believe.

Yeah the time when Berlusconi used that lexicon was in the 70s and 80s. Now he has moved on from suitcases full of money to owning an empire, and, fittingly, his rhetoric is more fit for an emperor than small time crooks like Schuster and his paymaster Calderon.

well suitcase full of cash or 100 mio from my pocket for dinho is kind of... same?

Originally Posted by peters

well suitcase full of cash or 100 mio from my pocket for dinho is kind of... same?

Yes, that was my point. But at the core all suit-and-tie men mean the same thing. The difference is how they say it.

Before Real signed Baptista and following his largely successful season at Sevilla, i think we'd all be for his signature. However, his move to Madrid forced him to become less of a regular in the side and he suffered. Then came his average season at Arsenal.

He's played everywhere in midfield it seems and if he could recapture some of his early form and work on his shooting, then i think we'd have a good signing.

But it all boils down to price. Real want 20 million euros just for Baptista and now it seems (though this may have been lost in translation) that to get him we need to buy Cassano as well which will bump the price up further.

Lets be honest, neither of their prices have gone up since they've been at Madrid, so we shouldn't feel pressured to pay through the nose for them.

yeah, its funny how a coach who is there for few weeks (and will probably be fired before the end of the season ) has such a mouth.

Baptista, cassano or both... ok with me if they want it and think they can use it. But surely not for 20 mio, i rather see willy playing and money in the bank for next season.

Originally Posted by drucurl

er...er.....bye bye Quaresma??

I don't see him moving to Fiorentina for that price. Pepe left for around 30 million euros, Anderson for a similar figure. Quaresma won't be sold for less than 30 million and i'd be very surprised if he opted for a move to Fiorentina.

Madrid may buy him IF they lose out on Robben and feel a need for a new wide man. Barcelona won't buy him, nor will Valencia and now neither will A.Madrid after they've just bought Simao. Man Utd won't buy him, i don't see Arsenal buying him, we won't buy him so i guess that really leaves Liverpool (who have been very strongly linked with him), Inter (who'll buy anyone and maybe Figo could persuade him) and possibly Roma.

My guess would be Liverpool.

Originally Posted by peters

yeah, its funny how a coach who is there for few weeks (and will probably be fired before the end of the season ) has such a mouth.

He probably realises there is a good chance of getting fired really quickly, so he's just saying and doing all the things he wouldn't normally. Just making the most of his time there

Originally Posted by peters

Baptista, cassano or both... ok with me if they want it and think they can use it. But surely not for 20 mio, i rather see willy playing and money in the bank for next season.

I can't see Madrid letting us get both players for less than 20 million. Not unless we can work out a loan deal for either of them. We all know they should be cheap as they're currently a pair of misfits who don't fit into the team. But Real have a warped way of looking at things, because they play for Real they must be expensive.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

- Finally, Ancelotti responds to Schuster who said that Real have a suitcase of money for transfers with "well we have trophies that weigh more"

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

Legenary response!!!!

I may be missing something, but wasn't this a wrong rather than legendary response ?
Why should Milan trophies weigh more than Real's ?
Real has more of them

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I may be missing something, but wasn't this a wrong rather than legendary response ?
Why should Milan trophies weigh more than Real's ?
Real has more of them

Actually he was talking about the offer.

Also, Milan have more international trophies than Real do.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I may be missing something, but wasn't this a wrong rather than legendary response ?
Why should Milan trophies weigh more than Real's ?
Real has more of them

... thanks to a lack of opponents when they got onto that streak half a century ago when to win the CL they had to just show up.

The thing is that for people to find the reasons for the BIG Real, they need to look into the stats of history books, while the BIG Milan is a reality and a memory search away

It doesn't matter when were the trophies won, they were won and many of them were won recently. The thing is, this would have been a hell of a reply to any other team in the world, but not to Real Madrid.

And it's not like their trophies are all in history books. They have 3 Cl's in last 10 years ( more than Milan) , 4 league trophies in last 10 years (more than Milan) and 2 Intercontinental cups in last 10 years (more than Milan)

Game, set, match


Edit : 10 years is the only period of time that you can use in this argument. No more and no less than 10 years