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So sorry guys i feel sick saying it but my dad has phoned saying its on english tv we have sold Kaka to Real for 60 million. is it true? please no!

It's not true

He's messing with you

Originally Posted by Tony29.

It's not true

He's messing with you

in a way i dont think he is he said this when Sheva went and i laughed and look what happned.

More proof that this is the most boring transfer campaign ever: the main article on Gazzetta's website is that Brazil now exports more footballers than bananas

Originally Posted by Kaka1899

in a way i dont think he is he said this when Sheva went and i laughed and look what happned.

I hope your dad you be wrong that time.

Er...Ancelotti was talking about the offer.

In the last 20 years or so, Milan have eclipsed Real's success.

In the last 10 years, yes, Real have done one better in Europe.

But even they can't match this:

2003- Winners
2004- QF
2005- Final
2006- SF
2007- Winners

His dad probably heard ( actually didn't hear) that Real is offering 90m euro ( 60m BP) for Kaka, but he didn't understand and thought Real bought Kaka.

Kaka isn't sold to Real and he won't be sold this year.

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Er...Ancelotti was talking about the offer.

I know what was he talking about. "Real's money weigh less than our trophies". That's what he said and he meant that winning trophies with Milan is worth it much more than only getting huge money in Real.

But the thing is Real also has a lot of trophies, more than any other team in Europe and it's not a guarantee that with Milan he'll win trophies while with Real he won't.

Lets be honest. The last trophy was all-Kaka. If he brought a CL trophy to Milan ( and a bad Milan may i remind you) then i see no reason why he shouldn't bring a CL trophy to Real.
And it's not like Real is an underdog and underachiever in champions league. They were bad in last 4 years but it doesn't mean they'll continue being bad in CL while Milan will still be the best in CL in next 5 years (actually, i expect the opposite. I expect really strong Real again)

I'm confident Kaka will be the heart and 'image' of milan for many years to come.
In response to my earlier post re: signing an american, I wasn't thinking of it as a way to 'break' the US market-i don't think Milan really care about that the way that a ManU or Chelsea do. Especially with ManU, we don't have the debt, plus I don't think it's the way we are. After 2005 when Milan went to Chicago and New York, i think they're happy to not be jetting all over in august, but to prepare in the best manner possible. I do have some old forza milan magazines with photos of milan in israel, i believe!
Even though this is in another thread, the new training gear on acmilan.com is pretty sharp (albeit the same templates as the other adidas teams) especially the tracksuits.
Back to signing americans, agreed with the earlier response about loaning out and then seeing what happens-i never thought or intended that an american would walk into the squad. but i do think we've got the hard work and given the right football environment, an american could succeed. i'd just like to walk into work one day and say to all my b-ball and nfl-loving pals about an american in milan.
again off-topic, anyone venture a guess as to the worth of a full autographed page of the 89-90 team?

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I know what was he talking about. "Real's money weigh less than our trophies". That's what he said and he meant that winning trophies with Milan is worth it much more than only getting huge money in Real.

But the thing is Real also has a lot of trophies, more than any other team in Europe and it's not a guarantee that with Milan he'll win trophies while with Real he won't.

Lets be honest. The last trophy was all-Kaka. If he brought a CL trophy to Milan ( and a bad Milan may i remind you) then i see no reason why he shouldn't bring a CL trophy to Real.
And it's not like Real is an underdog and underachiever in champions league. They were bad in last 4 years but it doesn't mean they'll continue being bad in CL while Milan will still be the best in CL in next 5 years (actually, i expect the opposite. I expect really strong Real again)

Admit you really hate the fact that we have a player like Kaka .

It's natural for a Juventino. But recently Real have been a circus and Milan have been a club who have done very well in Europe. Who can deny that Real's history is better? But I think Ancelotti was also referring to recent history, and, of course, the fact that Milan have more international trophies than Real (than anyone I think).

And Kaka was not THE only reason Milan won. Nesta was imperious, and Seedorf played his part too. Inzaghi scored a brace in the Final. Kaka was definitely our star man, but to say he won the CL single-handedly is a bit unfair.

Yes i agree with you Tony. Something like that should have been and Kaka1899's dad maybe doesn't heared it very well or the news was just a fantasy news like tribals.

Indeed Hasan, when Berlu was talking that way, he was really the only one doing that, as he was the "Abramovitch" of that era.

@ Dru: Where would Quaresma play bro? Would you bench/loan Gourcuff? Just asking....

Originally Posted by Kaka1899

in a way i dont think he is he said this when Sheva went and i laughed and look what happned.

Your dad is always calling you to tell you about which players we sold?.... .

Bye bye Riquelme!



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Even if I would want him here, I dont think he would fit in...unless he would be a willing sub for Kaka...and he couldnt play Pirlo´s role, becaue he doesnt tackle.

Still rate him as one of the best players in the world though...

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I know what was he talking about. "Real's money weigh less than our trophies". That's what he said and he meant that winning trophies with Milan is worth it much more than only getting huge money in Real.

But the thing is Real also has a lot of trophies, more than any other team in Europe and it's not a guarantee that with Milan he'll win trophies while with Real he won't.

Lets be honest. The last trophy was all-Kaka. If he brought a CL trophy to Milan ( and a bad Milan may i remind you) then i see no reason why he shouldn't bring a CL trophy to Real.
And it's not like Real is an underdog and underachiever in champions league. They were bad in last 4 years but it doesn't mean they'll continue being bad in CL while Milan will still be the best in CL in next 5 years (actually, i expect the opposite. I expect really strong Real again)

the way to guarantee this is take a recent enough and long enough period, like the last 20 years ... a "sample" like this gurantees that not only the past and present are successful but the near future too (and that's what Kaka cares about as his career will be nearing it's end in the next 7 years or so, which is pretty much the time since Real's last Cl trophy or memorable CL season for that matter).

And the antics and perfomances, or lack ther of, of Real's current management is a safe bet that Real's domestic and CL fortunes will hardly change for the better unless some drastic chenge in approach takes place ... of course there is always the possibility that things will change, but there is also the possibility that I would one day win the lottery and I am yet to see that day

More likely, however, we'll witness the curent management be kicked out at the next ellections and then god knows what lies infront of Real ... one thing's for sure, there will be a lot of uncertainty in their future and the chance that unless they hit the bullseye with their next management, they'd be looking at the possibility of another 38-year-long drought in the CL like the one between the galactico period and that streak in the late 50s ... whateevr it is, the only cetain thing is the uncertainty.

As for Milan, they have and plan on keeping the same management that has made them the most successful club over the past 20 years ... so, not much guessing involved there.

Regarding domestic perfomances, let's not go there 'cause unlike Milan, Real didn't have to play in a doctored league where the real winners are only an assumption in the eye of the beholder ... so, we can't really say what Milan could/would/should have won or not

P.S. a bit too early for that game, set, and match ... after all, it's EZ you are dealing with