Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

Ok dru...lets see:

1. Seedorf wears the #10 shirt, which traditionally indicates an attacking midfielder, or deep lying forward, depending on the interpretation.

2. Seedorf played behind Kaka and a striker for the most part of last season, in a role he prefers, and I think we saw the positive results of that, especially vs Bayern in the UCL qtr finals....an obstacle to overcome if we were to win the UCL title..so hardly an unimportant contribution to our 7th UCL title..to only give one instance

3. Did u see the assists by Clarence all season gone...can anyone dig up how many assists he did overall last term?

4. Did u see the assists by Clarence vs Lecco? Admittedly not first rate opposition, but clearly an example of what he likes to do...and does well IMO.

So, having said all that, why can you not get around him being an attacking player? Certainly he isnt a striker, but for all intents and purposes, one of the better #10s still playing at the moment.

I find the constant critique here of Clarence, one of the few players in history to win the UCL 4 times, to be a bit disingenius, and "scapegoat-seeking" in the extreme.

He was invaluable to us for all our accomplishments last term, scoring clutch goals in both UCL and Serie A.

He deserves more respect.

on dru's behalf, I think it's time I dropped the 'Ba' wildcard, which always does the trick in such situations:
"Instead of counting Seedorf as a forward, Galliani should have signed someone other than Ba."

i didnt see the rossi to villareal move comming. £6.5 mill? that it? shocking really milan didnt make a move. Oliviera trade next season maybe?

Graeme, in our (ie managements) defense, why buy Rossi when we are going so hard after Pato?

Originally Posted by Giorgos

Dru Quaresma is a good player but it doesn't fit at Milan squad, he cant do the work of Seedorf.... so he would be a replacement of Kaka?
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i see you have eaten warro and zlat's propaganda wholesale. Excuse me for thinking that we can actually improve

Originally Posted by zlatanov

on dru's behalf, I think it's time I dropped the 'Ba' wildcard, which always does the trick in such situations:
"Instead of counting Seedorf as a forward, Galliani should have signed someone other than Ba."

it would be more like...
"Ba can play in any position as long as he's not playing. So to increase our attacking force, we could use Ba as an attacker."

Warro i'm one of clarence's biggest fans here. You're missing the point (intentionally i suspect) the context of the discussion is a new striker. Those words imply that Seedorf IS a forward of some sort. Last time he spoke of a striker he mentioned kaka. Now that is augmented by his most recent inclusion

letting giuseppe rossi move to villareal was a big mistake by the milan administration. milan should have invested on this youngster. definitely he will be the best italian player in three years time. what a shame!!!

Pato at 17 is a better player than Rossi at 20. I've seen them both play on at least 5 matches and Pato is better in every single aspect, except for the more powerful shot Rossi has.

And i expect Pato to develop a lot in next 5 years, especially if he goes to Milan. As for Rossi ( i know a Milanista who really loves him and will kill me when he'll see what i'm saying) , i don't expect him to become a big player and my prediction is that he won't become much better than he is now.

If the choice was Pato or Rossi then Milan did fantastic job when they chose to give it all to get the young Brasilian

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Pato at 17 is a better player than Rossi at 20. I've seen them both play on at least 5 matches and Pato is better in every single aspect, except for the more powerful shot Rossi has.

And i expect Pato to develop a lot in next 5 years, especially if he goes to Milan. As for Rossi ( i know a Milanista who really loves him and will kill me when he'll see what i'm saying) , i don't expect him to become a big player and my prediction is that he won't become much better than he is now.

If the choice was Pato or Rossi then Milan did fantastic job when they chose to give it all to get the young Brasilian

we arent sure that we are going to sign Pato. anyhow i would have signed them both. definitely not Baptista, not even for one penny!

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Pato at 17 is a better player than Rossi at 20. I've seen them both play on at least 5 matches and Pato is better in every single aspect, except for the more powerful shot Rossi has.

And i expect Pato to develop a lot in next 5 years, especially if he goes to Milan. As for Rossi ( i know a Milanista who really loves him and will kill me when he'll see what i'm saying) , i don't expect him to become a big player and my prediction is that he won't become much better than he is now.

If the choice was Pato or Rossi then Milan did fantastic job when they chose to give it all to get the young Brasilian

me thinks the same.

Forza Milan, Forza FC Sarajevo

Originally Posted by drucurl

Warro i'm one of clarence's biggest fans here. You're missing the point (intentionally i suspect) the context of the discussion is a new striker. Those words imply that Seedorf IS a forward of some sort. Last time he spoke of a striker he mentioned kaka. Now that is augmented by his most recent inclusion

I stand corrected, if this was indeed the case...but my argumentative side seeks to pose this in response:

Its a bit of semantics if u ask me...we tend to play with one striker against stronger teams, and in this set up, Clarence is certainly an attacking player...aka a forward.

Now, when we revert to a two striker system, Clarence adopts a midfield role, with Kaka in the hole behind the strikers...or I believe we tend to play a more flexible formation, which sees both of them alternating in the "hole".

If we are to believe the transfer mkt speculation, we are signing another striker in Pato, an all purpose player in Baptista, and a possible Mr X, who is apparently yet another attacker...or not.

Bottom line: We are getting a striker, maybe in January, and his name is Pato...Galliani´s comments shouldnt be examined in minute detail, and then taken out of context....thats all I really wanted to say, but its a slow news/work day

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Pato at 17 is a better player than Rossi at 20. I've seen them both play on at least 5 matches and Pato is better in every single aspect, except for the more powerful shot Rossi has.

And i expect Pato to develop a lot in next 5 years, especially if he goes to Milan. As for Rossi ( i know a Milanista who really loves him and will kill me when he'll see what i'm saying) , i don't expect him to become a big player and my prediction is that he won't become much better than he is now.

If the choice was Pato or Rossi then Milan did fantastic job when they chose to give it all to get the young Brasilian

you should tell that Milanista to watch some more football and not go with the flow and you will be safe

some friendly games updates:

with Real's super display of one-touch football in their game vs Hannover 96 (3-0 for the Germans around the 82nd min of the game but could have been 4,5 and more), it's expected that two things will happen by the start of La Liga season:
1) Real will have a new coach ... and his name name will not be Schuster (unless of course he doesn't repeat "Kaka will play for Real" another 10 times at least.
and/or
2) Real will spend another 100 mil euros on new players - 35 mil for the permanently injured Robben, 35 mil for the 31 yo Ballack, and 30 for one of Makelele or Giannicheda - and the fans will be reasured once again of Calderon's sanity.

With Chelski about to win their game vs Brondby (2-0 by the 85th min), it is obvious that Mourinho has kept his word of playing a 4-3-3 formation in a bid to bring beautiful football back to the Bridge.
And the results were there to see - this time around, unlike in other games of the Blues, not all fans on the stadium were napping come the 50th minute of the game.
In fact, Chelsea TV showed footage of two Brondby fans caught on camera in the middle of a heated argument over a poker game.

+i'm bragging again

RC GENK - FC SARAJEVO 1-2

This is an INCREDIBLE result for my team, as Genk's players salaries are AT LEAST 15 times high as Sarajevo's players !!!! I'M SOOOOOOOOO HAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Lol Zlat, don't put so much attention to the friendlies. They never give the true picture. Actually, most of the times they give completely wrong picture.

Last year Liverpool was crushed by Mainz ( i don't remember the correct score but it was smthg like 5:0 for the Germans) and at the end Liverpool played in CL final while Mainz was relegated.

Inter were always pre-season best team in the world when they were winning all the friendlies for fun. During the season, when it counted, they choked. Last year it was the opposite for them - lost the pre-season friendlies, dominated in Italy.

Originally Posted by Stitch

+i'm bragging again

RC GENK - FC SARAJEVO 1-2

This is an INCREDIBLE result for my team, as Genk's players salaries are AT LEAST 15 times high as Sarajevo's players !!!! I'M SOOOOOOOOO HAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

I am also very happy for Sarajevo
In the other thread i said how i really like this team and i like what i've seen from them in the first round.

But i'm even more happy that i didn't put a single penny on Genk to win....unlike all of my fellow bettors who were sure that a poor Balkan team has no chances against a much reacher Western European team.

Forza Sarajevoooooo (and forza BiH in the ECQ)