AC Milan Forums  

Go Back   AC Milan Forums > AC MILAN > Transfers

Notices

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-08-2007, 08:38   #7726

zlatanov

Moderator
 
zlatanov's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07 2003
Location: Nowhere near San Siro :(
Fave Players: Zinedine Zidane, Genarro Gattuso, Alessandro Nesta
zlatanov is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony29.
I didn't watch him a lot Tony and that's why i may be wrong. All i've seen from him were the Coppa America games where he wasn't playing as a RB and maximum 3 Sevilla matches where, although Alves did very good in attack, Sevilla's part of the field, the right part, was always empty because Alves was always going forward.

I've never even seen him defend, that's why i may have wrong opinion about him as a defender.
others have raised the same concerns about his defending but I think this is more of an issue, if you call it that, with Ramos' tactics (Sevilla's coach) rather than lack of tactical awareness by ALves as he is used as an extra attacking weapon over there and his official RB position is a little deceiving ... this has been the case especially since they got Gattuso's best buddy - Christian Poulsen - who plays a holding mid for them but his stamina allows him to cover CD (in case the CD is drawn to the right to cover for Alves) and even RB when Alves has gone forward.
Before Poulsen's arrival, I believe Alves was much more of a RB although he was still going forward but not as much.

Of course, to reach Milan and Italian standrads in defending, he has a lot left to learn but he is 23 yo or so and this is pretty much true for any young RB who hasn't played in Italy (including Cafu when he was making his debut for Roma).

As a defender, however, I think he is very, very good with the only real shortcoming that I see in him is his height. Other than that, he is a very tenacious player - a lot like Gattuso - and if the coach asks him to eliminate someone off the field, I wouldn't waste time trying to find out if R10, CR7 or whoever, is even playing
Also, ALves has that "dirty" side in his tackling and is surprisingly tough to deal with for a player that short and not very strong physically, at least that's how he looks.

I think ALves would be perfect for a defense comprised of two strong CDs and a defense-minded LB (like Maldini and Kaladze have been for us) which would allow Alves more freedom in going forward - very much like Cafu was for Milan in 2005 when Milan'sdefense was Cafu, Nesta, Stam/Kakha, Maldini.
If serginho or Janku are played at LB, however, a more defensive RB would be needed, like Oddo, for instance (or Stam as he played in a number of games for Milan).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel489
I used to like ALves, b/c he used to belive it or not, actually defend. But as he gets more hype, he tends to attack more, mainly b/c u get a more money that way(IMO).
So here he is now, someone who just attk, attk and attk. To be honest, I said it here before or in another thread, he is another Contra, period. All this Cinciho, Mancini and Alves as the next Cafu, well, first learn how to defend then u can say u are the heir of Cafu.
I think he attacks more because Sevilla's tactics have changed and he is asked to attack more.
In Cicinho's case, the guy attacks becuase he lacks even elementary tactical awareness, Alves is a much more disciplined player and he has shown that many times before Poulsen's arrival at Sevilla, which I think is the reason for Alves' more adventurous role on the field and not Alves growing stature of a star.
__________________
"Everyone creates his own luck" - Carlo Ancelotti

Last edited by zlatanov; 01-08-2007 at 09:23.
zlatanov is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 08:38   #7727

Ghost

Registered User
 
Ghost's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02 2007
Fave Players: Bergkamp, v.Basten, v.Persie
Ghost is on a distinguished road
Pato will choose Milan, his father will choose Madrid
Ghost is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 08:59   #7728

Tony29.

Registered User
 
Tony29.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 09 2006
Location: South Slavia
Tony29. is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by MedellínBandit®
Pato will choose Milan, his father will choose Madrid
Better pray his father is nothing close to my father
It was impossible to say no to that man !
__________________
People always call it luck when you've acted more sensibly than they have
Tony29. is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 09:12   #7729

Tony75

Registered User
 
Tony75's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05 1999
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Fave Players: Pato, Silva, Abate
Tony75 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by MedellínBandit®
Pato will choose Milan, his father will choose Madrid
Fine by me. False can have his father. We'll take Pato.
__________________
The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The next best time is right now.
Tony75 is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 10:17   #7730

Hasan Rossonero

Registered User
 
Hasan Rossonero's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12 2004
Location: Canada
Fave Players: Rivera, Maldini, Del Piero, Baggio, Nesta, Pirlo
Hasan Rossonero is on a distinguished road
Nesta said that Barzagli is a player he likes and considers very strong.

acmilan.com


Does anyone else think our "unsuspected" player can be a defender. I still believe in Zambrotta or Cannavaro.
Hasan Rossonero is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 10:35   #7731

Tony29.

Registered User
 
Tony29.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 09 2006
Location: South Slavia
Tony29. is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero
Nesta said that Barzagli is a player he likes and considers very strong.

acmilan.com


Does anyone else think our "unsuspected" player can be a defender. I still believe in Zambrotta or Cannavaro.
There was never a talk about a defender this summer because most of the time your board was concentrated on a forward.
But it doesn't mean that they don't intend to bring one defender.
You have far too many defenders though and you'll have to get rid of few in order to bring another one.

If you bring a very good DC that means that one of Kaladze-Bonera will have to spend a lot of time on the bench, because 4 other DC's will have an advantage over him.

Bringing a new DC depends mostly on the plans Milan has with Bonera, imo. Bonera is not a kid anymore and if Milan has big plans with him the time to put him in starting XI is now, when he is 26.
Cannavaro is such a short-term solution for such a sensitive spot in the team. If Milan buy Canna now you'll easily find yourselves in a very tough position after 2 years when both Maldini and Cannavaro will be retired and Nesta will be 33, with a big fitness question mark because of this last injury prone season.

If Milan buys a CD it will be a long-term classy solution like Alex.
Imo, i think you'll give the chance to Bonera and you won't buy a CD

As for Zambro. I still believe he is very much needed in Barcelona but i'm also still sure that if Milan wants him Barcelona will gladly sell.
So, it all depends if Milan are interested or not. And are you interested, i have absolutely no idea
__________________
People always call it luck when you've acted more sensibly than they have
Tony29. is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 10:42   #7732

Hasan Rossonero

Registered User
 
Hasan Rossonero's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12 2004
Location: Canada
Fave Players: Rivera, Maldini, Del Piero, Baggio, Nesta, Pirlo
Hasan Rossonero is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony29.
There was never a talk about a defender this summer because most of the time your board was concentrated on a forward.
But it doesn't mean that they don't intend to bring one defender.
You have far too many defenders though and you'll have to get rid of few in order to bring another one.

If you bring a very good DC that means that one of Kaladze-Bonera will have to spend a lot of time on the bench, because 4 other DC's will have an advantage over him.

Bringing a new DC depends mostly on the plans Milan has with Bonera, imo. Bonera is not a kid anymore and if Milan has big plans with him the time to put him in starting XI is now, when he is 26.
Cannavaro is such a short-term solution for such a sensitive spot in the team. If Milan buy Canna now you'll easily find yourselves in a very tough position after 2 years when both Maldini and Cannavaro will be retired and Nesta will be 33, with a big fitness question mark because of this last injury prone season.

If Milan buys a CD it will be a long-term classy solution like Alex.
Imo, i think you'll give the chance to Bonera and you won't buy a CD

As for Zambro. I still believe he is very much needed in Barcelona but i'm also still sure that if Milan wants him Barcelona will gladly sell.
So, it all depends if Milan are interested or not. And are you interested, i have absolutely no idea
Galliani confirmed his interest last year in Zambo but because of the scandal couldn't commit. I still hope...
Hasan Rossonero is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 10:47   #7733

Tony29.

Registered User
 
Tony29.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 09 2006
Location: South Slavia
Tony29. is on a distinguished road
And Zambro today criticized Barcelona for the Asian tour. He thinks it would have been much better if they stayed in Spain and prepared for the upcoming season instead of losing a week in Asia.

You know how these big-heads in Spanish top clubs don't want when their players go public and criticize their decisions.
Maybe it means nothing...but it may very well mean something and maybe now it's the time if someone wants to buy Zambrotta from Barca
__________________
People always call it luck when you've acted more sensibly than they have
Tony29. is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 10:50   #7734

Ghost

Registered User
 
Ghost's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02 2007
Fave Players: Bergkamp, v.Basten, v.Persie
Ghost is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony29.
Better pray his father is nothing close to my father
It was impossible to say no to that man !
Then again if you think about the whole religous situation im sure Milan is a good place for that with players like Kaka who dont do stupid things.

On another note Barca are tracking Makelele - Maybe free up a space in their squad?
Ghost is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 11:13   #7735

Tony29.

Registered User
 
Tony29.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 09 2006
Location: South Slavia
Tony29. is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by MedellínBandit®
On another note Barca are tracking Makelele - Maybe free up a space in their squad?
Yes, Motta or Edmilson

Barcelona, Juve and PSG are after Makelele and he's sooo gonna end up in PSG.
__________________
People always call it luck when you've acted more sensibly than they have
Tony29. is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 11:16   #7736

hitmannq8

Registered User
 
hitmannq8's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10 2004
Location: Montreal, Kuwait
Fave Players: Kaka, Nesta, Rui Costa, Pato, Robinho
hitmannq8 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero
Nesta said that Barzagli is a player he likes and considers very strong.

acmilan.com


Does anyone else think our "unsuspected" player can be a defender. I still believe in Zambrotta or Cannavaro.

He was probably talking about his replacement in the Italian NT..
hitmannq8 is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 11:19   #7737

Hasan Rossonero

Registered User
 
Hasan Rossonero's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12 2004
Location: Canada
Fave Players: Rivera, Maldini, Del Piero, Baggio, Nesta, Pirlo
Hasan Rossonero is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmannq8
He was probably talking about his replacement in the Italian NT..
No, he wasn't. I read it in Italian, and he was talking about the market in particular (for those who can understand Italian):

"Il mercato dei difensori? Per me Barzagli è un grande giocatore, non dico che deve venire al Milan sia chiaro, ma per me è molto forte."
Hasan Rossonero is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 11:29   #7738

Hasan Rossonero

Registered User
 
Hasan Rossonero's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12 2004
Location: Canada
Fave Players: Rivera, Maldini, Del Piero, Baggio, Nesta, Pirlo
Hasan Rossonero is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony29.
And Zambro today criticized Barcelona for the Asian tour. He thinks it would have been much better if they stayed in Spain and prepared for the upcoming season instead of losing a week in Asia.

You know how these big-heads in Spanish top clubs don't want when their players go public and criticize their decisions.
Maybe it means nothing...but it may very well mean something and maybe now it's the time if someone wants to buy Zambrotta from Barca
Where did you read the criticism of the Asian tour?
Hasan Rossonero is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 11:43   #7739

Tony29.

Registered User
 
Tony29.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 09 2006
Location: South Slavia
Tony29. is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero
Where did you read the criticism of the Asian tour?
Kakà Zambrotta '90 mln una cosa da pazzi'

16:30 del 01 agosto

''L'offerta di 90 milioni di euro fatta dal Real Madrid per Kakà? Penso sia una cosa da pazzi. Il calcio non è più lo stesso con tutti questi milioni di euro''. Gianluca Zambrotta commenta così la notizia della megaofferta dei 'Blancos' per il brasiliano del Milan. L'ex juventino critica anche il suo club per aver organizzato una tournee asiatica che impegnerà la squadra per una settimana. "Penso che sarebbe stato meglio rimanere a Barcellona e preparare bene la stagione. In più, avremo problemi a causa degli spostamenti e del jet-lag". Tuttavia le esibizioni in Asia consentiranno ai blaugrana di incassare diversi milioni di euro.

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=all&a=50217
__________________
People always call it luck when you've acted more sensibly than they have
Tony29. is offline  
Old 01-08-2007, 11:44   #7740

Hasan Rossonero

Registered User
 
Hasan Rossonero's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12 2004
Location: Canada
Fave Players: Rivera, Maldini, Del Piero, Baggio, Nesta, Pirlo
Hasan Rossonero is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony29.
Kakà Zambrotta '90 mln una cosa da pazzi'

16:30 del 01 agosto

''L'offerta di 90 milioni di euro fatta dal Real Madrid per Kakà? Penso sia una cosa da pazzi. Il calcio non è più lo stesso con tutti questi milioni di euro''. Gianluca Zambrotta commenta così la notizia della megaofferta dei 'Blancos' per il brasiliano del Milan. L'ex juventino critica anche il suo club per aver organizzato una tournee asiatica che impegnerà la squadra per una settimana. "Penso che sarebbe stato meglio rimanere a Barcellona e preparare bene la stagione. In più, avremo problemi a causa degli spostamenti e del jet-lag". Tuttavia le esibizioni in Asia consentiranno ai blaugrana di incassare diversi milioni di euro.

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=all&a=50217
Grazie amico mio!
Hasan Rossonero is offline  
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 18:15.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.