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Old 12-11-2008, 13:00   #766

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i dont really think corluka is that big a star yet. the big clubs in england arent eying him. ManCity let him walk, he's attainable. Spurs have been awful, wont be in europe (unless they pull another carling miracle) and will probably try to reload.

Midtable english teams never seem to value defenders either. He's alot more attainable then say a chelsea defender..
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Old 13-11-2008, 06:01   #767

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I'm not sure if you'd have seen the Spurs v Liverpool game mrki, but you might have done because of Corluka. I hope you did see it, if only to see how horrible Dossena has become right now!

Unfortunately for him he was partly/fully to blame for all of the goals.
-Goal 1, he should have been much tighter to Pavlyuchenko, although Hyypia should have been alot stronger in seeing the ball out.

-Goal 2, he could possibly have been a bit stronger on the ball to see off Campbell, but it wasn't his fault the GK decided to go mental and try and tackle everyone at once.

-Goal 3, he let Campbell head the ball almost unchallenged.

-Goal 4, again this was partly the keeper in that he rolled the ball straight to Plessis who was tackled instantly. Zokora took a shot and Pavlyuchenko got the tap in, however in the replays Dossena is seen just standing still and letting the Russian run past him instead of trying to stay in front of the striker. Poor defending.

Maybe the Premier League is just too demanding for him and too quick, he's already been complaining about the lifestyle. Not to mention when the credit crunch first started up he said something along the lines of "If i knew this financial situation would happen i'm not sure i'd have moved". To me that says he doesn't want to really be there. The only comfort he can have from last night is that Degen, Hyypia & the GK were just as bad as him in defence.

mrki, we should not sign Dossena.
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Old 13-11-2008, 06:18   #768

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There are reports that we are after Breno.
I know he his the next bc of Brazil but his he good?
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Old 13-11-2008, 06:23   #769

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Sorry for double but how much Napoli want for Hamsik?
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Old 13-11-2008, 07:56   #770

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I'm not sure if you'd have seen the Spurs v Liverpool game mrki, but you might have done because of Corluka. I hope you did see it, if only to see how horrible Dossena has become right now!

Unfortunately for him he was partly/fully to blame for all of the goals.
-Goal 1, he should have been much tighter to Pavlyuchenko, although Hyypia should have been alot stronger in seeing the ball out.

-Goal 2, he could possibly have been a bit stronger on the ball to see off Campbell, but it wasn't his fault the GK decided to go mental and try and tackle everyone at once.

-Goal 3, he let Campbell head the ball almost unchallenged.

-Goal 4, again this was partly the keeper in that he rolled the ball straight to Plessis who was tackled instantly. Zokora took a shot and Pavlyuchenko got the tap in, however in the replays Dossena is seen just standing still and letting the Russian run past him instead of trying to stay in front of the striker. Poor defending.

Maybe the Premier League is just too demanding for him and too quick, he's already been complaining about the lifestyle. Not to mention when the credit crunch first started up he said something along the lines of "If i knew this financial situation would happen i'm not sure i'd have moved". To me that says he doesn't want to really be there. The only comfort he can have from last night is that Degen, Hyypia & the GK were just as bad as him in defence.

mrki, we should not sign Dossena.

Thanx for the info, I havent seen the game unfortunately. I've herad that Dossena has a period of bad games and is benched by Benitez. From what I've seen from him in udinese, fot Italy NT and the beggining of L'pool, he was great. But I believe what you say about his games now... I dont know why it happened. Maybe he is not up to the tempo of EPL...

How did Corluka do in that game? Tottenham was the only club I supported in England, but since the old days, not now coz of Modric and Corluka...I dont know why exactly that started in the beggining, it just happened. So it did with Nantes and Herta Berlin...

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corluka is ont a star defender, but that is even better for Milan. Burdisso is a star defender

Breno - hasnt been that good this year, but for sure will be a to class defender as he is only 18!

Hamsik - Napoli would ask for Kaka'+ San Siro most likely for him...
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Old 13-11-2008, 11:35   #771

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Ancelotti should get Lukaz Fabianski, 2nd choice keeper of Arsenal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Ld9iOlqh8
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Old 13-11-2008, 14:14   #772

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Ancelotti should get Lukaz Fabianski, 2nd choice keeper of Arsenal
because of 1 double save? I think it's a bit early to judge a player who hardly ever plays. Speaking of GKs though, Trappatoni has apparently told Given to move to Italy. I think Given could be a great keeper for us, he's incredibly consistent and i don't think he'd be overly expensive. Just a thought.

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I've herad that Dossena has a period of bad games and is benched by Benitez. From what I've seen from him in udinese, fot Italy NT and the beggining of L'pool, he was great. But I believe what you say about his games now... I dont know why it happened. Maybe he is not up to the tempo of EPL...

How did Corluka do in that game?
I honestly think Benitez wanted him to be his first choice LB, £7.8 million for the Italian is a big investment. But as the season has progressed he's played him less and less in the big games and instead opted for Aurelio. Right now i'm guessing Benitez doesn't trust him and is trying to give him time to settle into England. Wether the tempo is too quick for him (i doubt he'll have faced as many speedy wide players in Italy as he has done so far in the Premier League) or wether he doesn't like the lifestyle in England, i wouldn't be surprised to see him move back to Italy, possibly in January but more likely in the summer.

I didn't see much of Corluka, i only saw the highlights & analysis and unfortunately it was all about the Liverpool defence and Dossena in particular. Corluka didn't have alot to do as he was facing Ngog (too inexperienced to be any threat) and Torres who was starting his first game for 6 weeks, so he was no threat either. Also Corluka was practically in a first choice Spurs defence (Gomes, Bale, Corluka, Dawson, Hutton), Dawson aside (because i think King or Woodgate would be ahead of him normally) so he had a much easier ride than Dossena.
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Old 13-11-2008, 14:35   #773

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I never quite understood the team that invests 100mln in one summer and has 2 good defenders: King and Corluka. The rest of them are just normal EPL defenders ( Woodgate?? he is not even a defender anymore, he is a suicide!), in my oppinion. And the funny thing is that they bought their best defender for almost nothing compared to forwards and midfielders they payed for. Even more, Gomes is worse then I thought. All of the blame went to the coach ( Ramos ) that created numerous very good and great players with Sevilla, won UEFA cup 2 times and one euro supercup, and played brilliant football... Aguess they just werent clicking with eachother at the beggining and then everything went into depression and here you go. I highly doubt Rednapp is a better coach then Ramos.

And more, to create a big team, you cannot sell 4,5 of your great players. And TWO of yout best forwards and expect Bent and Pavlyinichenko(spelling??) to play as well as Keane and Berbatov instantly.

As a Tottenham simpathiser in EPl, I have to say I dont think thy did such a good job with that 100 mln they spent. Bent, Pavlynichenko, Modric, Corluka, Bentley ( 20 or so mln??)...Gomes... Give Moggi 100 mln and you get a dream team You cant go for 1st or CL place in EPL and sell Berbatov and Keane.

Just a quick comment on their mercato and season planning.
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Old 13-11-2008, 15:00   #774

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Why are Juve playing against Genoa tonight? I mean in the midweek. Anyone knows why?

Btw they are leading 2 goals.
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mrki, i think Redknapp is a better man manager than Ramos. He's very good at boosting a player's ego and making them play with more confidence, but i think Ramos is the better manager tactically/technically. You don't do what he's done with Sevilla and become a bad manager over night. Unfortunately it was probably just a communication issue that caused the problems.
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Old 13-11-2008, 17:12   #776

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Thanks to our management, we don't have all these problems of coach as we have one of the best coachs in world ...
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Old 13-11-2008, 21:33   #777

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Why are Juve playing against Genoa tonight? I mean in the midweek. Anyone knows why?

Btw they are leading 2 goals.
Its because Italy rugby team is playing against Argentina rugby team on Stadio Olimpico. They play on Saturday I think
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There are reports that we are after Breno.
I know he his the next bc of Brazil but his he good?
I've read it to, he is benched often coz of the stif competion in Bayern, I think it's going to be the same with us.
Is he good?
I can't judge him I haven't seen enough games. But before he went to Bayern he had a solid deal with Real.
But when Real asked him to go an age determiningtest he refused. Why would an 18 year old brazilian defender that get's a chance of playing for such a great team refuse that? Coz he has something to hide! He had the opportunity to prove for once and for all that his age was as he said it was. Coz there were and are rumors that he is in fact older than he claims to be. If you take a look at him back then or even right now it's pretty hard to believe his age. So I wouldn't sign until he gets that bonescan
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Old 15-11-2008, 11:52   #779

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Karim Benzema: There are many clubs interested, such as Barēa [Barcelona] or Real [Madrid], but we should not forget clubs like Manchester [United] or [AC] Milan,” he said, “All are big clubs that footballers dream of playing for.

Lyon president also said that he want to sign Gourcuff.

If there no place for Gourcuff in Milan then put him and more 10 mil and bring Benzema.
I think that Kaka-R80-Pato-Benzema or something like this would be huge!!!
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Milan after Zapata! Galliani after Eto...
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