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Old 18-03-2009, 16:03   #766

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Yep, definitely agree in the opinion of getting a top CB and imo a fullback. But imagine this scenario...

- We get Marchetti and in return we sell (or swap with Cagliari) Dida.
- We get Santacroce and sell Kaladze (maybe again look to make him part of the deal). In those terms, Kaladze should cover over at least half of what we'd pay for Santacroce.
- We get a top level fullback and we sell Oddo (I think we may be able to get a fair price for him). Like Santacroce, we can maybe look to fund much of this transfer with the sale of Oddo.
- We sell Emerson and get Mariga (maybe put Emerson up as part of the deal) from Parma, who looks a great prospect and shouldn't cost much as Parma are in Serie B right now.
- We bring back Gourcuff and Abate
- We get a new forward and sell Sheva. Whilst Sheva may not be the player he was before, he should bring in a little money considering his marketing value.

Let's see how much we're spending on the whole here. Personally, with these deals we're looking at here I can't imagine us spending more than around 25 million euros here and that's me being fairly pessimistic.
this looks very good transfer campaign but honestly i cant see it happening. btw kaladze is not a cheap player liverpool likes him so i think kaladze + 2 mil is a fair deal for agger.
the buy out clause in oddos deal is 7.5 mil. we desperately need a left full back, maxwell can do the trick but i absolutely prefer clichy over any other lb . and for oddo i believe we are going to exchange him with lucio, i would pay anything to get breno but bayern aint this stupid.
our sponsor pays us good when we win a trophy so i dont think we will have a good budget for transfers, maybe 10 mil tops which is the budget of a midtable team in english coca cola division. once again the way we reinforce will define our goals and objectives and off course our results. last year adidas paid us 190 mil to sponsor us till 2017, our tv deals is around 80 mil a year. in short milan got the resources but they are living in denial.
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Old 18-03-2009, 17:23   #767

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I read the previous page and it is "funny":

- Galliani says no new GK (some of you cry for that)
- At the same time, Marchetti seems to be on his way to Milan (rumors)

- Galliani says we won't spend a lot
- We've never been linked with so many players at the same time

The next months are going to be interesting for us and, I think, for Galliani (because I'm sure he loves to say things in medias even when he thinks the contrary).

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Old 18-03-2009, 20:00   #768

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Well we have to refresh whole back line and if boriello doesn't recover one powerful striker, the midfield is pretty much solved as
genaro comes back. as for the keepers I go with galliani, as it would be nicer to invest in top sideback and two central backs
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Old 18-03-2009, 20:40   #769

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Whatever he says, the objective is clera:

1) 1 world-class DC
2) 1 world-class LC
3) 1 world-class box-to-box player
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Old 18-03-2009, 21:08   #770

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The objective is clear to whom though? To us or to them?
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Old 19-03-2009, 03:50   #771

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I like the ideas there, but I am not too sure that Kaladze would take off half the price of Santacroce! Napoli is not stupid. They have one of the most promising defenders in Italy starting for them and doing very well. He is thought by many to become the next great defender. (even though many before him have failed to actually achieve the end result....that name tag alone will hold the price up) Let's not forget that Kaladze has had a terrible season and is at the very wrong side of 30. He just suffered a huge injury as well. - so even though he will knock down a lot of money, we will still have to come up with a large ammount of cash for Santacroce. My own oppinion is that a number of around 20 mil should do the trick. So something around 14mil + Kala can be enough.

BUT...here is where the tricky part comes in. Kala earns so much with us that Napoli will never be able to give him anywhere near that kind of money. It makes everything so much worse. This is the kind of stuff that makes selling bench-warmers like Sheva, Emerson and Dida so hard to do. These players make so much with us, that no other mid-table Serie A team can even come close to even as a starter salary.
Fair point, my point was we can get fair amount of Santacroce's transfer down by including Kala. The other option I mentioned is to sell Kala and use that money for the deal. We know outside of Italy, especially England, teams will likely spend and despite his season Kala's market value shouldn't be less than around 7m euros imo. Santacroce would be between 15-20m euros in the current climate, so I don't think we'd need to break the bank to get him. I think your figure of 14m+Kala is the most we'd have to give for Santacroce. Despite his reputation, we're not living in times where clubs are going to spend insane amounts on players (except in England) and we must remember that even with his status as one of the most promising defenders around, he's still not a star yet, he's not even part of the Italian set up.

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Whatever he says, the objective is clera:

1) 1 world-class DC
2) 1 world-class LC
3) 1 world-class box-to-box player
Has Galliani come out and set this? The only people I've heard speaking about these objectives are the fans.
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Old 19-03-2009, 04:40   #772

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No one thinks that a WC striker (physical one) is also much needed? We can't only depend on Pato. If he's out and boom!, we have no striker except Boriello who is average player (despite his overrated season with Genoa) and injury prone Inzaghi who plays only 10-15 games in a season.

If Pato is fit, we still have problem to break a defensive-minded tactcic from mediocre teams. As many have mentioned, a big striker could help us to do better against such teams.
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i'm with you siregar

i think we need at least 2 world class player ; one as target man (partnering with pato as support striker) and another one as center back.
Then we need 1 great box to box midfielder with capacity like the old seedorf.
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Old 19-03-2009, 05:18   #774

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what r u talking about ? why do we need another striker ?
we have the best in-box , or target man striker in the world, pippo inzaghi, and the best attacker in the world (pato), so why the f*ck we need a striker , when already we have the best attack in the world ?
and ofcourse, now u will complain about pippo's age... ok, sure, he will be like this for maybe 2 more seasons, and that's it... but we have Boriello, don't we ?
boriello is like luca toni, but younger, .. he is even stronger than Toni, and i think that he is faster and technically better... so what the f*ck r u talking about that we need a strong target men, if we already have that ?
and also, even if we really need a new striker, we surely don't need it now, when we have pippo and pato in top form... so this summer we don't need to buy a striker... maybe next summer u should talk about this, but not now for god sakes... do u see how our attack is actually good, ?
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I thought you all should learn by now that, never trust Galli's words.
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Old 19-03-2009, 05:55   #776

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what r u talking about ? why do we need another striker ?
we have the best in-box , or target man striker in the world, pippo inzaghi, and the best attacker in the world (pato), so why the f*ck we need a striker , when already we have the best attack in the world ?
and ofcourse, now u will complain about pippo's age... ok, sure, he will be like this for maybe 2 more seasons, and that's it... but we have Boriello, don't we ?
boriello is like luca toni, but younger, .. he is even stronger than Toni, and i think that he is faster and technically better... so what the f*ck r u talking about that we need a strong target men, if we already have that ?
and also, even if we really need a new striker, we surely don't need it now, when we have pippo and pato in top form... so this summer we don't need to buy a striker... maybe next summer u should talk about this, but not now for god sakes... do u see how our attack is actually good, ?
if you still want us to just compete for the 3rd spot in the league, pato, pippo , & 'invisible' borriello are enough, but friend, we need to build a team to fight for each & every season ,(starting this summer) not just merely a season ..

how long do you think pippo will last? he's great , yes everyone knows that but - as siregar mentioned, he'd be available for 10-15 games a season, I remember the total matches of serie A + champions' league + coppa itali are not in the range of 10-15 games?are they?

borriello? he's younger, stronger ,technically better than toni (though I disagree) so what? if he could only get injured again & again & again..

pato? he's extraordinary, but come on he's just 18 , we cant just depend on this kid to carry us thru each & every game.. he's still developing , & let him be, dont spoil his future by giving extraordinary pressure too !

we definitely need a WC striker.


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Old 19-03-2009, 06:09   #777

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We get a new forward and sell Sheva. Whilst Sheva may not be the player he was before, he should bring in a little money considering his marketing value.
If I am not mistaken, Sheva is not our player he's Chelsea's one so we can't sell him!
I f he was ours then the right stip would be trying to sell him in the Gulf area (Saudi Arabia or Qatar) these people are rich, more rich than what you can imagine, and you can easly convince them to pay around 10 to 15 Mil for Sheva and some kind of 6 or 8 mil for Kaladze, the US league is also another good opion.
P.S. Selling to Arabian & American clubs depends heavily on the players will, so some players may refuse to go.
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Old 19-03-2009, 06:24   #778

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We get a new forward and sell Sheva.
Wasn't he on a loan? He's still owned by Chelsea..

Sorry for the repeat. Just saw hany.Egypt's post.
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Wasn't he on a loan? He's still owned by Chelsea..

Sorry for the repeat. Just saw hany.Egypt's post.
Sheva is at Milan on loan. There has long been a lot of confusion on that point because the details of the transfer were very murky, but just after Milan's exit from the UEFA Cup the official Chelsea website listed Sheva as a player on loan in a roundup of how their on-loan players are doing:

http://www.chelseafc.com/page/Latest...577208,00.html
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theres not a team in the world that would pay for shevchenko. This guy is an ex-player! I really hope we loaned him and not bought him in the summer.
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