Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by prifess

well inter have a very good squad. they just don't have the team spirit like milan.
but if milan won't change their transfer policy i fear the worst.

there will be a collective retirement in milan so milan should already buy a new squad. starting with buying now a few +- young players.

inter have youth + expierence.

and idd i don't see inter winning the scudetto for 4 years.

yeah If Milan doesnt invest i cant see us really challanging for the title for a while. This is something a few of us have been hinting at for a while. Next summer is looking like a big exit with Cafu, Serginho, Favalli, fiori, and with the possibility of Maldini and Inzaghi both retiring. This excludes adding more depth to the the squad which we havent done for a while. We could be looking at another clearout at the end of this season if we dont win anything. If we bought 3 players this season, we would only need 3 more next season. Not like 6 next summer.

Pato is good, but is very young and inex-experienced. Not a guaranteed big goal scorer which we have been needing since we lost sheva. Our wing backs have only been improved by Oddo, but we need more options (that being younger fasters players).

I heard that alot of fans were trying to protest this today as Pato arrived in Milan. Although i do moan a bit, i agree with them a 100%. Is it only the fans that can see how other teams have been reinforced, and we havent?

History repeats itself, year 2000 we only signed Redondo after fans protested that we needed reinforcements. The management then was wrong, and a year later we had a clearout.

Originally Posted by Graeme C

yeah If Milan doesnt invest i cant see us really challanging for the title for a while. This is something a few of us have been hinting at for a while. Next summer is looking like a big exit with Cafu, Serginho, Favalli, fiori, and with the possibility of Maldini and Inzaghi both retiring. This excludes adding more depth to the the squad which we havent done for a while. We could be looking at another clearout at the end of this season if we dont win anything. If we bought 3 players this season, we would only need 3 more next season. Not like 6 next summer.

Fiori---replacement? We have like 4 keepers now and 2 keepers out on loan.
Serginho---He has already been replace by Favalli last season when he was injuried for long period.
Favalli----Maybe Grimi would replace him after he is back from loan. If we manage to get a good LB then janku will become his replacement instead.
Cafu----we need a replacement for him else simic will be become the reserve RB while we get another CB.
Maldini---Even without maldini, we don't lack players as CB with Nesta, Bonera, Kaladze and Simic.
Inzaghi---Pato is incoming and we might still be going after Ronaldinho and the like if we don't get them this year.

The way i see it, we only need 2-4 players even if we don't get anymore player this year. Its certainly not like you make it out to be, we don't need to get another 6 players.

Graem how many times i said that we need players? you can see my statements in this forum. Sheva is injured? because he didn't play for Community shield against Manchester United.

hwmook:
ambrossini????
gattuso????
brocchi????
seedorf?
and u say for maldini : bonera, nesta, kala, simic

well simic is old, nesta is old, kala is old

we still have:
-ronaldo
-bonera
-grimi
-dingao
-pirlo
-kaka
-gourcuff
-willy
-gila
-pato
-dida (old GK is not bad)

so where is bench??? where is midfield? where is defence
I dont think we can hold with bonera and grimi....
our attack is safe for another 10 years: but the rest :| we should invest badly

----------dida------
RB?------bonera -----DC?------grimi
pirlo
----midfield?---groucuff-----
---------kaka---------
-----pato------gila

bench:
ronaldo and willy

we should really consider this protest and don't be blind and think our players can competite when they are 35YO

baptista considers milan again. since he is not part off the first team. he has plce on bench but he won't do that...

I hope we get em: 12mil£ isn't that much for him.
sign this 1


"Baptista reconsiders Rossoneri Sunday 5 August, 2007

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Julio Baptista is reconsidering a move to Milan after it became clear he was not going to get first team football at Real Madrid.

The Brazilian spent last season on loan at Arsenal and was determined to avoid another temporary spell overseas.


Milan have confirmed their interest in the player, although they only want to take him on loan with an option to buy rather than spend the requested £12m.


However, it is reported this weekend that Baptista has changed his mind after pre-season friendlies showed new Real boss Bernd Schuster is not counting on him to be a key figure.


“For the moment Julio Baptista is training with the team and is a Real Madrid player,” said Schuster. “The directors and I want to do what is best for the club.”


This would suggest a transfer is on the cards and Milan are in pole position, even though general manager Adriano Galliani stated that Alexandre Pato’s arrival has closed the transfer market.


Baptista made an impact in Brazil’s Copa America winning campaign this summer, scoring a sensational goal in the 3-0 Final victory over Argentina.""


source: channel4

Originally Posted by Graeme C

yeah If Milan doesnt invest i cant see us really challanging for the title for a while. This is something a few of us have been hinting at for a while. Next summer is looking like a big exit with Cafu, Serginho, Favalli, fiori, and with the possibility of Maldini and Inzaghi both retiring. This excludes adding more depth to the the squad which we havent done for a while. We could be looking at another clearout at the end of this season if we dont win anything. If we bought 3 players this season, we would only need 3 more next season. Not like 6 next summer.

Pato is good, but is very young and inex-experienced. Not a guaranteed big goal scorer which we have been needing since we lost sheva. Our wing backs have only been improved by Oddo, but we need more options (that being younger fasters players).

I heard that alot of fans were trying to protest this today as Pato arrived in Milan. Although i do moan a bit, i agree with them a 100%. Is it only the fans that can see how other teams have been reinforced, and we havent?

History repeats itself, year 2000 we only signed Redondo after fans protested that we needed reinforcements. The management then was wrong, and a year later we had a clearout.

Ronaldo is that replacement. Even in the little time he had he did well.

As for the fans protesting, I think it's unbelievably boorish, not to mention completely rude towards Pato.

it is not to be rude towards pato. it is towards the management.
they should give the suporters more then what they give.

the management is full of blahblahblah but at the end we sign 1 players.
they all have dreams that just won't happen. they just do what publicity does on TV: selling their product. ex: trying to buy ronaldinhio

I think no one mentioned this :

Juve, Inter e Milan corteggiano Makelele

15:30 del 05 agosto

Claude Makelele, nonostante i 34 anni suonati, resta un giocatore molto appetito, secondo l'autorevole quotidiano transalpino L'Equipe, dopo la Juventus, anche l'Inter e il Milan vorrebbero ingaggiare l'esperto mediano, che però avrebbe ricevuto anche una proposta di rinnovo da parte di Peter Kenyon, il direttore esecutivo del Chelsea. Il tecnico Mourinho lo ritiene ancora importante, pur non potendogli garantire un posto da titolare

After Juventus who, as reported, are after Claude Makelele, Milan and Inter also joined the race for the 34yo Frenchman. Chelsea also offers him a contract extension
(L'Equipe)

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So, would you like Makelele in Milan ?
I know Mrki likes him and i also wouldn't mind having him in my team.

provided that Emerson doesn't have some chronic injury, I'd take him over Makelele anyday, anyplace.

Emerson is 3 years younger, knows serie A inside out (especially on the inside thanks to Moggi ), has better ball distribution, as tough defensively as the Frenchman, and unlike the franchman is a danger in the air and possesses a powerful shot (has scored quite a few goals that way for Juve and Roma).

take that, mrki

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I think no one mentioned this :

Juve, Inter e Milan corteggiano Makelele

15:30 del 05 agosto

Claude Makelele, nonostante i 34 anni suonati, resta un giocatore molto appetito, secondo l'autorevole quotidiano transalpino L'Equipe, dopo la Juventus, anche l'Inter e il Milan vorrebbero ingaggiare l'esperto mediano, che però avrebbe ricevuto anche una proposta di rinnovo da parte di Peter Kenyon, il direttore esecutivo del Chelsea. Il tecnico Mourinho lo ritiene ancora importante, pur non potendogli garantire un posto da titolare

After Juventus who, as reported, are after Claude Makelele, Milan and Inter also joined the race for the 34yo Frenchman. Chelsea also offers him a contract extension
(L'Equipe)

---------------
So, would you like Makelele in Milan ?
I know Mrki likes him and i also wouldn't mind having him in my team.

He's a good back up for Gattuso and Ambrosini and still a lot better than that filthy Juventino Emerson. The difference between them? Makelele tackles, Emerson fouls. On the downside Makelele can't pass the ball more than 5 yards.

Originally Posted by Mehdi

He's a good back up for Gattuso and Ambrosini and still a lot better than that filthy Juventino Emerson. The difference between them? Makelele tackles, Emerson fouls. On the downside Makelele can't pass the ball more than 5 yards.

Take this, Zlat

lets get BAPTISTA....he can play either as a striker or attacking mid rigght..

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Take this, Zlat

he is only sayiung it cause he hates Emerson from his Juve days, like most people here.

take that Tony

Originally Posted by prifess

hwmook:
ambrossini????
gattuso????
brocchi????
seedorf?
and u say for maldini : bonera, nesta, kala, simic

well simic is old, nesta is old, kala is old

we still have:
-ronaldo
-bonera
-grimi
-dingao
-pirlo
-kaka
-gourcuff
-willy
-gila
-pato
-dida (old GK is not bad)

so where is bench??? where is midfield? where is defence
I dont think we can hold with bonera and grimi....
our attack is safe for another 10 years: but the rest :| we should invest badly

----------dida------
RB?------bonera -----DC?------grimi
pirlo
----midfield?---groucuff-----
---------kaka---------
-----pato------gila

bench:
ronaldo and willy

we should really consider this protest and don't be blind and think our players can competite when they are 35YO

Ambro has just reached his peak and has a couple of years minimum in him. Rino hasn't shown any sign of ageing either, so again has at least a couple of years. Brocchi isn't someone we use regularly and so his age becomes less of an issue and Seedorf already has his future replacement in a 21 yr old Frenchman called Gourcuff.

Simic, like Brocchi is a squad player (and quite far down the pecking order). Nesta is 31 which is a peak age for a defender (and with the national team done with, he'll be at best condition for Milan for at least 3-4 years). Kala is 29 and has a year or two before he'll be at his best at CB and Bonera is young (27 I think) and has a pretty bright future considering last season's form.

That's without considering the youth players like Darmian (those who read my posts will know I have high hopes for him personally and clearly so do management), Di Gennaro, Antonelli and Aubameyang. Many of these players are still under 20 whilst most players from Italy have a tendency to develop and reach fame later than players of other nations. Let's at least see where they are in 3 years when they'll all be around Gourcuff's age now.

I've also given a response to Tony some pages back with regards to our squad depth now, which is actually pretty strong. In the next 4-5 years, most of the players we have now will still be of value to the side/squad, with some fresh faces which will be gathered in the next few years.

Looking ahead 10 years? Do you seriously think any club in football will have planned out which players they'll have in 10 years? That would mean back when MVB, Gullit, Rijkaard, Baresi, Savicevic and Donadoni were still playing the management had already planned getting Shevchenko, Pirlo, Rino, Seedorf and Kaka (note how many of these had actually even made any sort of news back in the mid 90s).

It seems to me people seem to want us to buy youngsters to try and secure our future, when in reality the football world is too unpredictable to do that. We have a number of possibilities for the future and that is the most we can do. If they fail, we have to look to open our cheque book and spend a little on a proven player. Paolo Maldini's do not come along often.

edit: and please at least try to spell the players' names correctly.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

he is only sayiung it cause he hates Emerson from his Juve days, like most people here.

take that Tony

That's not the ONLY reason I'm saying him. He was awful for Brazil at the last World Cup and awful at Real Madrid.