Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by zlatanov

well, don't resize it then ... why do extra work only to make things worse


btw, Milan fans recharge your "transfer speculation" batteries cause from tomorrow it will be a brand new round of summer activities.
there will be two new names and they will be among J. Baptista, Cannavaro, Emerson, Motta, Di Natale ... and remember that you heard it here first

Admit you added Cannavaro's name by yourself

Anyway ....

Cannavaro and Emerson - overrated filthy Juventini cheaters - you don't need them
Motta - Even the filthy Juventino Emerson took his place in the Brazilian NT - you don't need him
Di Natale- plays for a team that has the same colours as the filthy cheaters- you don't need him
Baptista - played for Arsenal where the filthy gobbo Vieira used to play and plays for Real where filthy Cannavaro and Emerson play - you don't need him

Give us another round of 5 new names Zlat !
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Seriously , you think Cannavaro will leave Real ?

The way I see it, Milan's approach to the transfer market, although somewhat conservative, has proven to deliver results over the years.

Obviously, on paper, having a world class starting eleven supported by a great bench pushing the starters for a first team place should be what every big club aims for. However, as we all know, this is practically impossible to achieve. Most great players find it very hard to accept being benched and this type of frustration can disrupt the overall unity of the team.

I must say that although I've been scouring the net daily with the hope of new transfers, when I stop to think about it, I genuinely agree with what the management says. It really is very difficult to improve our starting eleven. Going into this season, we are definitely looking much better than last year. Aside from the fact that the players are better rested and generally in better physical shape, they are also coming back mentally stronger. Given the obstacles the team overcame last year to achieve success and prove the skeptics wrong, they have matured as a unit - I'm sure this beats being crucified in the media for Calciopoli.

The general consensus seems to be that the success we've had in the past years will eventually fade away as the average age of the team continues to increase. No one can debate that. And there is absolutely no way that the management isn't aware of this fact. Some of the performances that our old veterans have been putting in are simply brilliant. Besides, signing Pato and showing reluctance to sign a midfielder in order to give Gourcuff a fair chance next season are very positive signs for the future. I agree that many of our starters have been prone to injury, but I don't think we can afford to sign high profile players just in case they do. In my opinion, this is a small sacrifice when you look at the trade-off: team spirit and a genuine understanding between the players.

That being said, it would be nice to get either one of Zambrotta or Cannavaro. And Julio Baptista could also be a useful addition because of his versatility, given the fact that Pato will not be able to play until January, and probably won't make an immediate impact on the team.

I'm not sure I've added anything new to this discussion, and have probably stated the obvious, but the point is, I think we're doing okay - barring a hardcore series of unfortunate events (i.e injuries), we can certainly challenge for the scudetto as well as put up a good defense of our CL title. To quote Warro.. "I Love Milan".

GK: Dida (Storari)
DF: Oddo - Nesta - Maldini - Janku (Cafu - Bonera - Kaladze - Serghino)
DM: Gattuso - Pirlo - Ambro (Brocchi - Gourcuff)
AM: Kaka (Seedorf)
FW: Gilardino - Ronaldo (Inzaghi - Pato)

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Admit you added Cannavaro's name by yourself

I won't admit even under torture ... truth is truth and nothing can change that

Give us another round of 5 new names Zlat !

Is this a joke to you ... what you think I am just shooting in the dark with those names

Seriously, you think Cannavaro will leave Real ?

If he keeps performing for Real like he has been for some time now, I don't think he will have a choice really

seriously, yes, I think if he doesn't find his old self - and it's prep period in a chaotic environment for him (the worst possible recipe for rediscovering his lost form) - it's only a question of a couple more friendlies before Schuster starts looking for another defender considering that last year it wasn't a successful one for Canna either (although for dif reasons but that doesn't mean Milan can't profit from Real's ineptness ... again )

Originally Posted by Tony29.

So far only this

it's our new jersey? Not as beautiful as last season. And last season is not as beautiful as Zafira, how come the 4 letters B w i n can be so ugly

About Emerson, I have read Tony and Mehdi's posts. I saw Brazil raped by France. But in fact, with Emerson, Brazil didn't play well in Group matches. You can say that it's because all of Brazil sucked but actually Emerson didn't do so much. With Australia, Croatia and especially we Asian's Japan, how can a team like Brazil be raped in the midfield? Ghana had better condition but if you can't say it was a interesting match even 3-0 for Brazil, both team did poorly, Ghana's attackers and defenders were simply too bad. And I accept the fact that Brazil did really well in 2002 and 2005, clearly better team and more beautiful football.

If we sign a DM I hope he is Poulsen or Gago.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Cannavaro was capped 108 times
So, either Maldini,Zoff, Trapattoni, Lippi and Donadoni know nothing about football, or Cannavaro is really a world class, or if not a world class, always among the best 2 defenders in Italy.
Nesta and Materazzi were never as regular as Cannavaro.

Because Nesta was often injuried. Cannavaro was never as good as Nesta was. In fact, i personally did Cannavaro didn't play that well for parma and inter, he only look good when panthering nesta and maldini. Juve was the only club he played really well for.

Originally Posted by hany.Egypt

Totaly disagree,look at our squad right now, you say that we have already 4 keepers, well IMO only 2 of them are good(Dida and Storari) while the other 2 are ....hmmmm lets say not Milan quality, and 2 on loan then I must say they dont have any experiance though I wont argue about them as I dont know them.
As for Serginho, you say that we have Favalli as his replacment, well again I have to say that both of them wont be able to run any more next season, so they have to be replace as Favalli if we are so optimistic would be the third shoice in his position and Janku is orginally LM not LB and even if he plays well as a LB he does make mistakes, though we cant blame him for it.
Cafu again when we bought Oddo we said he is an excellent player but not worldclass like Cafu , so we were in the opinion that the managment will buy us some one else young and strong in the summer,and no one said that Simic can replace him (dont try to cobvince me that we can rely on Simic againest Barca,Chelsea, ManUTd, Inter etc coppa Italia and some very weak Seria A games can suit him not CL matches if Oddo was Injuired.
Maldini is irreplacable and some how even if he did not retire I would say that we still need a CB not because of the quality or the quantityof the defenders you mentioned, but because they get injuired alot(Maldini always has problems in his knee Kaladze and Nesta get injuired alot) Bonera is very good and despite being unexperianced (in CL) we can rely on him.
Inzagi would probably retire next season, he is a legend if I can say so,Pato of course can replace him but not in the near future,may be after two or three years, he is just 17 dont forget that.

Do you even realise we can only field 1 keeper in any games? And most teams actually have only 1 good keeper? Abbiati has no experience? Come on, don't kid me.

Milan won a UCL with Simic playing as a RB so i don't know where you can coming from when you say simic cannot make it. Moreover Oddo is still going to be the one most of the time.

Maldini is suppose to have an ops that fix his knees and as long as he doesn't have to play too often, he will be fine. Nesta is not alway injuried, he is only injuried when WC come around, since he already retire from international soccer, i am sure he will be perfectly fine and stay injury free all season. Kaladze with minimum playing time is going to be fine. And we still have Simic who doesn't get injuried.

Pato may be just 17 but ronaldo also started making his mark in PSV at exactly the same age, nobody say Pato can't be doing the same. He also get more time to gel and train with Milan before playing.

Originally Posted by Sleep

About Emerson, I have read Tony and Mehdi's posts. I saw Brazil raped by France. But in fact, with Emerson, Brazil didn't play well in Group matches. You can say that it's because all of Brazil sucked but actually Emerson didn't do so much. With Australia, Croatia and especially we Asian's Japan, how can a team like Brazil be raped in the midfield? Ghana had better condition but if you can't say it was a interesting match even 3-0 for Brazil, both team did poorly, Ghana's attackers and defenders were simply too bad. And I accept the fact that Brazil did really well in 2002 and 2005, clearly better team and more beautiful football.

Well, you said what i wanted to. i actually saw the Ghana's players having a highway straight to goal against brazil but Ghana just doesn't have a decent striker so saying emerson is so important for brazil is really pushing it. Emerson did very well in roma and juve so he was getting called up, it doesn't mean he did very well for brazil.

And saying Emerson is a cleaner player than Rino is laughable. Rino does a lot of tackles and opponents hate him but that doesn't mean he is a dirty player. Rino is the cleanest DM i ever see, his cards to tackles ratio is already very very low for a DM. He always go for clean tackles without trying to take his opponents legs off, sometimes he might make a few clumsy tackles and make some last ditch tackles that result in him getting cards but you cannot call him a dirty player for that. A dirty player is like ambro ( don't kill me for saying this but its true...), he always make dirty tackles and getting cards so often. I personally don't remember emerson as a dirty player.

But if given a choice, i would have love Diarra to be here.

Hello everyone i'm newbie here...

I am excited 'bout prospect of Pato wearing Milan's shirt but still we should reinforce ourself with 1-2 more players. If zlat right from those 5 names i would choose Baptista or Di Natale.

One more,where i can find latest news 'bout serie A in english?

Originally Posted by ea1899

Hello everyone i'm newbie here...

I am excited 'bout prospect of Pato wearing Milan's shirt but still we should reinforce ourself with 1-2 more players. If zlat right from those 5 names i would choose Baptista or Di Natale.

One more,where i can find latest news 'bout serie A in english?

try channel4.com or goal.com

Let's get Baptista, I'm warming to an idea. He can be a nice ST/AM/DM for us. Three in one

Originally Posted by Stitch

try channel4.com or goal.com
Thanks

Let's get Baptista, I'm warming to an idea. He can be a nice ST/AM/DM for us. Three in one

Considering this year summer market, Baptista would be good signing for us.Versatile player like him and his skill will always be useful.

Originally Posted by Mehdi

He's slow and he makes too many fouls. He can't tackle, he just kicks people and gets away with it because of the colour of the shirt he wears.

dont want to go into this heated debate, but i agree with this one 100%. Thats why i dont like him, he just kicks when someone is near, no matter what he hits. I dont say its not good (with that dirty tactics arsenal killed villareal last year in cl) but i can hardly stand it.

About Canna, i find it amusing when will real figure out he is just too slow for spanih league. Like Samuel the wall, like emerson... all of these would do good in italy since there is a different, more strong type of defensive play, where tactics and positining are above all. In spain the midfield floats up the field and fast counters 1vs1 with defender are something naural. That the case where young spanish wings just rush past Canna and make him look useless

Hello everyone i'm newbie here...

welcome to MM buddy

lets just get baptista...and a lb and i will be happy...

Originally Posted by hwmook

Do you even realise we can only field 1 keeper in any games? And most teams actually have only 1 good keeper? Abbiati has no experience? Come on, don't kid me.

Milan won a UCL with Simic playing as a RB so i don't know where you can coming from when you say simic cannot make it. Moreover Oddo is still going to be the one most of the time.

Maldini is suppose to have an ops that fix his knees and as long as he doesn't have to play too often, he will be fine. Nesta is not alway injuried, he is only injuried when WC come around, since he already retire from international soccer, i am sure he will be perfectly fine and stay injury free all season. Kaladze with minimum playing time is going to be fine. And we still have Simic who doesn't get injuried.

Pato may be just 17 but ronaldo also started making his mark in PSV at exactly the same age, nobody say Pato can't be doing the same. He also get more time to gel and train with Milan before playing.

Hmmmmm Abbiati is on loan (sorry I forget I thought its a young goalie
) I must apologize for that point .
As for Milan winning the UCL with Simic playing as a RB I have to say that as far as I can remmber Simic hasn't played any CL games and again I am asking you, can you rely on Simic againest Barca Roma Inter ManUtd Chelsea? As for Oddo yes he can have the job done,but he if got injuried then we are running out of options Cafu cant do it any more.
For the defence I agree that we do have excellent defence when the players are fit, hope that Nesta's retirement from Azzuri can help him.
As for Ronaldo having his mark in PSV at exactly the same age,then I must say there is a diffrence between Seria A and Dutch league
so I dont think Pato can do the same with milan.

Originally Posted by hwmook

Because Nesta was often injuried. Cannavaro was never as good as Nesta was.

this is well and beyond far so not connected with each other I can't phantom how you could say it. How can Nesta's being injuried a lot tell that he was better than Canna? Indeed I do think he actually was better than Canna, but that is hardly shameful on Cannavaro to have Nesta before him.

Originally Posted by hwmook

In fact, i personally did Cannavaro didn't play that well for parma and inter,

He didn't play that well for Inter, I believe most, including pundits can agree on that account. But you are the first I EVER seen that claims he didn't play good for Parma. That is totally going against what pretty much anyone have ever said about his career, he was a rock there.

Originally Posted by hwmook

he only look good when panthering nesta and maldini. Juve was the only club he played really well for.

He was great already in Napoli.