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seriousley there must be some truth about the Ronaldinho rumours even if its 10% truth and the rest is fictional. all these sources cant make up rumours all at the same time with out truth, ye some are more far fetched than others but thats them makin use of there poetic license.

ahh this ronaldinho stories are so unneccesary. i hoped after the pato deal they would vanish but seems i was completly wrong.

i'd like one of those clown journalists to show me where ronaldinho would fit in. the way i see it there is simply no space for him.


Ronaldo, Kaka, Pirlo and Gattuso are sure starters which leaves 2 spots where he could play. the second striker position or seedorf's spot. don't come with the age argument when talking about ronaldo. if he stays fit he can easily play for another 2 years on the highest level. i'm sure wc 2010 is a target of his.

i can't imagine that we bought one of the most coveted youngsters for 22 million euros just to put ronaldinho in front of his nose and for seedorf's spot he is way, way, way too offensive. i know many people don't rate seedorf but he does a lot of backtracking and he is very strong on the ball and can't be pushed aside easily. none of this can be said about dinho. he isa great player but if he would play in this midfield we would struggle against any team the has a bit of midfield steel and cl would be impossible to win. all the recent cl winners had a very tight midfield and worked very hard to minimize spaces for the opponent. even barca played completely different to what their usual style is.

Ronaldo is not a first choice player IMO. Only Kaka, Pirlo & Rino could stake that claim, and R10 could easily fit in to any of forward roles, depending on who else is there.

Originally Posted by Tony75

Ronaldo is not a first choice player IMO. Only Kaka, Pirlo & Rino could stake that claim, and R10 could easily fit in to any of forward roles, depending on who else is there.

I cant see Ancelotti not playing a fully fit R99, never.

As Acdc mentioned above the only guaranteed starters are Ronaldo, Kaka, Gattuso & Pirlo, all we can do is wait and see what happens.

i truely hope gila will prove himself. and that carlo will have confidence in him

Milan Giants Join Da Costa Hunt
(http://goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=375987)
The Manuel Da Costa appreciation club is getting bigger by the day as Milan and Inter have become the latest clubs to approach PSV Eindhoven about the availability of his services.

Despite the fact that his contract runs until 2011, the Dutch champions will be sweating on whether they can hold on to the 8m-euro-rated 21-year-old defender, who can also count Juventus, Fiorentina and Atletico Madrid amongst his suitors.

Any club that are seriously interested will have to significantly up the 3,5m euro bid that the ‘Old Lady’ reportedly made just days ago for the stylish centre-back, who caught the eye with some assured performances in the heart of Portugal’s defense during the U-21 European Championships in the Netherlands earlier this summer.

Milan are said to have weighed in with an 5m euro offer, while Inter allegedly matched their ever-fiercer city rivals on the money front but sugar-coated their bid further by offering that Da Costa could stay in Eindhoven for one more season.

( please translate this )
Baptista-Milan: il brasiliano sul mercato 'nonostante' Schuster

11:37 del 08 agosto

Dopo il mancato arrivo di Ballack ed il colloquio con il giocatore, Schuster ha cambiato idea ed ora vorrebbe tenere Julio Baptista. Il tecnico tedesco ha dato una precisa indicazione a Mijatovic, ma il Real Madrid continua a cercare una sistemazione al brasiliano. Mentre sembrano essere in calo le quotazioni del Milan, si sta facendo largo l'ipotesi Villareal.

It says that even though Schuster had changed his mind regards Baptista after the talks with Ballack failed, and Schuster gave precise indications to Mijatovic to keep Baptista, Real are still looking to offload the Brazilian.
While Milan's quotations are going down, those of Villareal going higher.

Well Tony,
Imagine Barca fail to qualify for 1/8, remember they almost were knocked out last december!!!!Then the concept of R10 join Milan it will be highly likely in exactly January!!!

Originally Posted by Tony29.

I know, but how logical is Milan to try to sign him in January ? They won't succeed and there's no reason to try
Some sort of deal between Milan and Barcelona about Dinho going to Milan in 2008 may happen during the year, but why would it be in January? They can make such deal in December, February, March.

What i am obviously trying to say, even though i'm putting it between the lines, ( ) is that Gazzetta was most probably selling not enough papers in last 10 days when the rumors "Dinho to Milan" stopped and now they must play the good old card again and with "January" they are even securing themselves for the next 3-4 months.

My position about Dinho is well known by now. I believe, actually i'm sure, he'll end up in Milan some day, probably even in 2008/09, but i give 0% chances Dinho to play in Milan in 2007/08.
I think that Gazzetta is selling You false hope and some of you are even buying it.

Originally Posted by acdc81

i'd like one of those clown journalists to show me where ronaldinho would fit in. the way i see it there is simply no space for him.

Ronaldo, Kaka, Pirlo and Gattuso are sure starters which leaves 2 spots where he could play. the second striker position or seedorf's spot.

You answered your own question! R10 could play EITHER one of those "free" positions. Talk about versatility - depending on matchups, you could play R10 at Seedorf's spot and bring in an Inzaghi or Gila as a 2nd striker. If you need to play more conservative, you could play R10 as a second striker and keep Seedorf (or put in Ambro) at the MF.

I certainly won't get my hopes about him coming and I could certainly understand, though not agree, with criticism of R10 as not being a team player or not fitting well with Kaka. BUT to say there is no room for him is just plain wrong!

I can't believe that people are questioning R10. Let's keep the brocchi's & favalli's of this world then, and forget about players who could take us to another level, instead of allowing other's to keep pace with us.

Originally Posted by Tony75

I can't believe that people are questioning R10. Let's keep the brocchi's & favalli's of this world then, and forget about players who could take us to another level, instead of allowing other's to keep pace with us.

just because i don't think we don't need r10 this does not mean i want more mediocre players. i just don't think that with the players we have r10 would be an overall improvement for us. he would bring imbalance to a working team and i think he could harm the team spirit, the one that brought us no. 7.

if we wanna improve the team that is fine with me but lets start somewhere we really need improvement. if we wanna shop in barcelona that is fine with me either but let them keep ronaldinho. we should buy zambrotta and motta from them. that would really help improve the team.

the way i see it our first 11 is fine apart from janku who in my eyes is to shaky in defense. other from that we only need quality in width.

just like you said, replace players like favalli, serginho, cafu, brocchi, kalac with stronger players. that is what this milan needs, not r10.

R10 wouldn't harm the balance. Ambro & Rino give the defensive balance, R10,& Kaka the flair, and R9 the finishing power. At the moment Seedorf is a hard worker, but doesn't score enough. R10 would add about 35 goals a season overall if you include assists in all comps, never mind the merchandise we could sell with him, kaka, & ronaldo in same team. Dream big guys, you support Milan.

i cant see what ronaldinho would really do to improve our game for the money he will cost. We could get barzagli, zambrotta/chiellini, motta and a striker for the price of ronaldinho.

Originally Posted by sveto

Well Tony,
Imagine Barca fail to qualify for 1/8, remember they almost were knocked out last december!!!!Then the concept of R10 join Milan it will be highly likely in exactly January!!!

Of course
but i have a feeling that UEFA will be ready even to change the rules so a team with Henry-Dinho-Messi-Eto'o will play in the knock-outs (i don't mean this literally but it is in UEFA best interest Barcelona to go as further as possible in CL. And frankly, it's hard to imagine this team to have hard time again in the group stage)

Originally Posted by acdc81

just because i don't think we don't need r10 this does not mean i want more mediocre players. i just don't think that with the players we have r10 would be an overall improvement for us. he would bring imbalance to a working team and i think he could harm the team spirit, the one that brought us no. 7.

if we wanna improve the team that is fine with me but lets start somewhere we really need improvement. if we wanna shop in barcelona that is fine with me either but let them keep ronaldinho. we should buy zambrotta and motta from them. that would really help improve the team.

the way i see it our first 11 is fine apart from janku who in my eyes is to shaky in defense. other from that we only need quality in width.

just like you said, replace players like favalli, serginho, cafu, brocchi, kalac with stronger players. that is what this milan needs, not r10.

I agree with you but i agree with Tony even more
Man, it's Ronaldinho after all. You don't say NO to a player of his caliber.
And if Dinho wants to join Milan than he's probably aware that he won't enjoy the "greatest star of the team" status and he's ready to accept his new role.

And then again, we can't compare Milan with Brazil.
In the quarters, where they were really awful, Brazil had Ronaldo and 3 attacking midfielders in the team, with another offensive player in Ze Roberto.
In Milan the trident Ronaldo-Kaka-Ronaldinho will be well protected at the back , with 2 defensive midfielders, one of them being Gattuso.
I believe this will work very well.

Of course, you do have a very good point that 4 or 5 players with very good quality will also do miracles for Milan and it that case Dinho will not be desperately needed. I was supporting this idea from the beggining because i thought that with 100m you could have built an unbeatable team.
But many things changed since then. I thought you could buy Zambrotta, Buffon, Ribery and Alex with the money. Now all of them are out of the market and if i have to chose between Ronaldinho vs What's offered at the market this summer, i'll chose Dinho.

Originally Posted by Graeme C

i cant see what ronaldinho would really do to improve our game for the money he will cost. We could get barzagli, zambrotta/chiellini, motta and a striker for the price of ronaldinho.

Fine - I can accept this criticism of signing R10 as well. Some people think the team would be better served spending that much money on a couple of players instead - certainly that's a valid point. But I just CAN'T accept an argument saying there isn't any room in Milan for R10...