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It was a fvck up sporting week for me

First, Milan lost the CL final after dominating the game. Then, McLaren sufferred what is their worst race weekend of the F1 season

Kimi lost the race after leading in the FINAL lap due to a failed right front suspension, which led to a blown tyre, handing the win on a silver platter to his nearest championship contender Fernando Alonso. Just what does Kimi have to do to finish a race, let alone win at Nurburgring Remember he was leading by a big margin at Nurburgring in 2003 too, before being forced to retire due to mechanical failure.

Montoya had a great start and was third going to the first corner before some stupidities by Mark Webber forced him off the track and to the back of the pack It'll be interesting to see Montoya having a blast at Webber at the press conference after the race. Fvck you Webber!!!

If it was written in the stars that Liverpool will win the CL, then it's destined that Alonso will be WDC & Renault will win the Constructor's championship

Im a Ferrari supporter but really... one MUST feel sorry for Kimi Raikkonen. He did everything right up till that point but the right tyre just gave out, the vibration was visible. And he was SO, SO close to getting first. Now he ends up with NO point (I think) at all which is totally unfair after leading the whole race.

Alonso's lucky. Reminds me of the race sometime back when Mika was leading only to lose it in the final moments as his car stopped or something and Schumi got no. 1. The jinx of McLaren

Sauber needs to repair their fvckin brakes.

Fvckin McL was so close to another victory, but then The God woke up and corrected what was wrong. HAHAHA Kimi was out due his stupid mistakes during the race when he blocked his tyre in right hand turns. He was driving like a child. He got what he was worth to get.

I recall that super Catalunya GP in 2001 when mika spoiled his motor and it breoke down in the middle of last lap. What a memory .

JPM and Ralf made a stupid situation in the first turn so that Webber was hit out and Schumi lost many positions. And they remained unpunished

Ferrari starts to perform in race like they used to do earlier. Even though Schumi had problems in first corner. Anyway, nice win by Nadito! Again [now four fingers]

Forza Schumi
Forza Ferrari

Originally Posted by rae

I recall that super Catalunya GP in 2001 when mika spoiled his motor and it breoke down in the middle of last lap. What a memory .

Yes I remember that too :LOL: ohhhhh the satisfaction when schumi went past his car .....

Weird race. I do not know how to rate them. Just really quaint one. Schumi started second but soon he found himslef in sixth position However soon he started to show his speed. Three pit stop tactic was quite risky but it paid dividends.

I am exteremley happy for Rubinho. He was so unlucky to start his race from pit lane, however in the end he finished on podium That is a real achievement!

I wanted rain eventually interrupt the race however it did not happen. But the race was quite interesting even without it. Many crashes [especially Button's - Champions Wall] and brakedowns made it more interesting. Stupid maitake by jpm made him retire from the race being one of the leaders

I bet that next race will be even better for my team. I hope it will be the first victory

Forza Schumi
Forza Ferrari

What a fvcked up season for Juancho

First the oil rig failure in Catalunya caused him a potential podium finish. Then a 10 grid demotion in Monte Carlo for an "accident" caused in practice. In Nurburgring, it was Webber taking him out in the first corner when he was in third position. Now it's a dubious black flag fiasco cooked up by the race stewards for exiting the pit lanes when the red lights were on

The Safety Car ruined McLaren & Juancho's race this weekend. Both Juancho & Kimi were having a big lead over 3rd place Button before he crashed and the Safety Car ate up their lead they had bulit over the race It could have easily been Juancho's first victory for the Silver Knights and a McLaren 1-2

The Evil Empire stole an undeserved 14 points in Juve fashion

The only positive result for the Knights this weekend is the retirement of both Renaults.

Originally Posted by ilgenio

The Evil Empire stole an undeserved 14 points in Juve fashion

WTF... hey, you shut up

I bet Ron Dennis was guilty for jpm's disqualification... he ordered to take finn in front of jpm to the pit lane, so that colombian was forced to make a stupid mistake... I guess the leader should be invited first to load the fuel not the second driver

I am sorry for what had happened... really sorry... even as Ferrari fan I have to say that we were not a team without fault however I am very sorry for those who say that the main reason of this is Ferrari... it is so stupid... how can you say that when there not only Ferrari paricipating in that race... and Jordan and Miandri were the teams which did not boycott the race... if one of then have said strong NO to the race... I bet FIA will be canceled it. However everyone shut their eyes infront of this and say what they want to say. It is ludicous and foolish. Only stupid can say that most guilty are Ferrari... they are not the only team who rules everything...

I would say that the main part of fault should carry Michelin. They did not commit the pionts in their contracts to produce safe and competatvive tyres for every race.

The second most guilty is FIA. They did not nothing to stop this boycott and spectators were the victims of that. They MUST have done something to make a compromise to stop this fake race. They did nothing.

End.

God hates Montoya (& McLaren)

More bad luck hit Juan Pablo Montoya at Magny-Cours as the Colombian driver suffered yet another mechanical failure in his McLaren career. JPM was running strong in 3rd place before a transmission (??) failure forced him to park his car at the tyre wall and prematurely ended what could have been a great weekend for McLaren. Kimi Raikkonen drove a strong race to finish in 2nd place after starting from 13 on the grid, but would have challenged Alonso for the race win had he not been given a -10 grid penalty due to an engine failure

McLaren's bad luck in 2005:

Imola - Pole position for Raikkonen and the Finn opened a sizable lead over 2nd placed Alonso by lap 9 before a driveshaft failure ruined what would have been a great weekend for him

Catalunya - A refuelling rig failure caused JPM to make an extra pit stop and McLaren lost a potential podium finish

Monaco - JPM was hit with a -10 grid penalty for an accident in practice cooked up by the race stewards, though Juancho drove superb race to finish 5th from the back of the grid JPM was robbed of a possible podium finish

Nurburging - Raikkonen's last lap suspension failure when he was on course for a race victory Nuff said And JPM's race was screwed by Mark Webber when the Aussie took out Juancho (who was in 3rd place) at the first corner in Lap 1 JPM had to fight his way back to finish in 7th place from the back

Montreal - JPM & Kimi were on course for a 1-2 finish and had a 30+ second lead over 3rd place Jenson Button, before the Brit crashed and the Safety Car ate up the lead of the McLaren drivers :eyepatch: Montoya was then given a dubious Black Flag for exiting the pit lane when the red lights were on, another incident cooked up by the race stewards



Nonetheless, I'm confident the Silver Knights will bounce back in their home race at Silverstone next week It's a track where Kimi, JPM and McLaren have always excelled on

A Spanish speaking driver finished top of the podium and it's not Alonso Just as I expected, the Silver Knights dominated their home race at Silverstone and if not for another grid penalty for Raikkonen could easily have taken a 1-2 finish

Superb start by Montoya taking the outside line under-breaking into Copse before pushing on the throttle early and taking lead from Alonso going into Becketts Obi-Juan simply controlled the race from then on and even with Alonso cutting his lead to just a little over 1 second at one stage, never looked in danger of losing his 1st position.

Kimi again got stuck behind traffic today but drove another marvellous race, coupled with a slice of good luck with Fisichella stalling in the pits on his 2nd pit stop and scored a much needed podium finish both for him and McLaren.

Great gesture from the podium finishers for not celebrating with the customary champagne spraying after what happened in London few days before the race

McLaren won at their home race, and the next race at Hockenheim is Mercedes' home race. Obi-Juan absolutely loves that circuit (He won by almost a lap over 2nd place DC in 2003 ) and with the monkey now off his back, I expect another stellar performance from him in a fortnight

F*CK

(Sorry... I dislike Montoya the MOST)

Michael Schumacher has taken his first pole position of the season for Sunday's Hungarian GP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FORZA SCHUMI !!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Michael Schumacher - 1:19.882
2. Juan Pablo Montoya - 1:20.779
3. Jarno Trulli -----------1:20.839
4. Kimi Raikkonen -------1:20.891
5. Ralf Schumacher -----1:20.964
6. Fernando Alonso -----1:21.141
7. Rubens Barrichello ---1:21.158
8. Jenson Button -------1:21.302
9. Giancarlo Fisichella --1:21.333
10. Takuma Sato ------1:21.787

Qualifying Report: Kimi triumphs while others falter


After an error-strewn qualifying session, McLaren's Kimi Raikkonen will start from pole position in the Turkish Grand Prix.
Renault duo Giancarlo Fisichella and Fernando Alonso are next on the grid after Jenson Button, Ralf Schumacher and Michael Schumacher all ruined promising laps with off-track excursions.

Biggest winner was Juan Montoya, who despite qualifying early, claimed an impressive P4. The loser was Takuma Sato who ruined both his own lap and slowed Mark Webber's.

Qualifying report: Most of the runners had gone for harder, more durable tyre compounds to cope with the new track and the demands of the high speed and hugely challenging Turn 8, which would put a lot of pressure on the right front tyre in the race.

And so the challenge was to go fast on the outlap to get heat into the tyres. The ambient was 29C and the track was only 42C, much lower than expected by the teams and the tyre companies.

David Coulthard in the Red Bull was cautious through Turn 8 and ended up posting a slow 1:29.764 – his car hampered by the very dusty track conditions.
“It wasn’t wonderful,” said DC afterwards. “I got wide in 8 and 9 and I lost a lot of time there. The really tricky thing is the amount of bumps, when it unloads over those it can get interesting.”

Red Bull team-mate Christian Klien was out next and managed a much better 1:28.963, a massive eight tenths quicker than Coulthard. When qualifying finished, though, there was only one car in the gap between himself and DC.

Robert Dornbos had got the better of Minardi team-mate Cristijan Albers so far but had a couple of lock-ups on his hot lap. There was clearly something off with the braking of the Minardi as he was over six seconds down on Klien’s time before the end of the lap. He dived down the pitlane and his rear brakes promptly caught on fire.

Next up McLaren’s Juan-Pablo Montoya put in a 1:27.352 – (1.6 quicker than Klien) Though he’s been quicker than Raikkonen during the weekend, there have been small errors creeping in.
“The early slot will probably cost me 5 or 6 places on the grid,” said Juan halfway through the session. “It’s tough, but I’m happy I’ve got a good race car.”
As it turned out, it was a lot better than he thought it was going to be.

Jacques Villeneuve lost control of his Sauber on the way through the tricky Turn 8. The car twitched wide onto the bright green run-off, and rather than run all the way along the run-off JV decided to try and get it back on the track straight away. He looked to have successfully regained the track, but then the car twitched again and slewed sideways across the track to a halt. The steering wheel was levered off and Jacques was out of the car – the anti-stall seemingly not working. Ironically earlier in the weekend Jacques had said, “I believe Turn 8 is the best corner in F1”

After Villeneuve’s car was recovered Minardi’s Cristijan Albers was allowed out again and there was no brake problem to be seen. 1:32.186 for the Dutchman.

Felipe Massa in the second Sauber had no problem in Turn 8, but finished a whole second down on Montoya’s time – 1:28.419 for the Brazilian, which would end up as a highly promising P8.

Tiago Monteiro (P15) showed that Jordan have got a distinct edge on Minardi in the back-of-the-grid battle, a 1:30.710 for the Portuguse. Team-mate Narain Karthikeyan had received a new engine and so toured round on a parade lap without setting a time and promptly stopped in the middle of the pitlane.

Renault’s Fernando Alonso was starting qualifying much earlier than he would have liked but despite running slightly wide in Turn 12 got ahead of Montoya’s time to give him provisional pole of 1:27.050. But there were still a lot of drivers to come.

Rubens Barrichello (P11), watched by Jean Todt in his Ferrari jumper (for those taking an interest) was not quick. Bridgestone weren’t able to bring the softer tyres that they used in Hockenheim and Budapest and so Ferrari times have suffered as a result. Rubens’ 1:29.369 was back between the two Red Bulls.

Giancarlo Fisichella was behind Renault team-mate Alonso’s time coming into the final sector, but managed the final segment of the race track two-tenths quicker. His 1:27.039 took provisional pole.

Under-pressure Takuma Sato needed a good lap in Turkey, but he didn’t manage to keep his car on the island through Turn 8 and swept onto the run-off. Unlike Villeneuve he went further out wide and regained the track without problem, but his lap was done for. He crossed the line with a 1:30.175. To make matters worse he didn’t get back to the pits quick enough.

BMW-Williams’ Mark Webber (P7) looked like he was having a good lap until he came across Takuma Sato in the place on the circuit he wanted to be. It looked like it made Mark take a tighter than he would have wanted and lost him a couple of tenths.
“What was Sato doing, for xxxx’s sake? Mark asked on the radio.

“I didn’t have update on the radio; (of Webber’s position) by the time I realised it was too late,” explained Taku afterwards. Though blaming the team for not telling him is probably not the best tactic for him right now.

Nick Heidfeld in the second BMW-Williams was only a fraction ahead of Webber by the end of his lap 1:27.929 for the German and P6.

Jenson Button (P13) was ahead of everyone in Sector 1 but like his team-mate couldn’t get Turn 8 right. He got through the first part of the corner with a flicked correction, but clipped the inside kerb in the second part, unsettled the car which then ran wide and got his tyres dirty on the verge. He also made a mess of Turn 9. A dreadful 1:30.063 for the Brit.

Jarno Trulli was only fractions behind Fisichella’s fastest time until the last two corners, which he didn’t hook up particularly well. It dropped him to P4 as he crossed the line with a 1:27.501 and P5 when the session finished.

Ralf Schumacher (P9) in the second Toyota made it through the perilous Turn 8 but he missed the apex and ran wide in Turn 9 and onto the run-off. The small detour cost him and he finished with a 1:28.594 - a whole second behind Trulli.

Brother Michael had a task on his hands to qualify well with his underperforming Bridgestone tyres. He’d gone off in Turn 8 in the morning and managed it this time with no problems. However, like his brother he got caught out in Turn 9 when the car suddenly swapped ends much to the amusement of the Turkish crowd. Michael came back into the pits without setting a lap time.

Finally it was time for Kimi Raikkonen to put his McLaren on pole. It seemed to be his for the taking with the fastest car of the weekend and the circuit at its most rubbered-in. The Finn took his car very near to the edges of Turn 8 but held it all together, and took a wary line through Turn 9.

He crossed the line with a 1:26.797, not a country mile ahead of Fisichella in P2, but importantly on the clean line at the start.

It had been a dramatic first qualifying session for the first Turkish Grand Prix. Hermann Tilke had set out to challenge F1 drivers with his new track and he had certainly achieved his aims, with Villeneuve, Sato, Button and both Schumachers all falling victim.

There will surely be more upsets to come in the race on Sunday.

Times
1 K. Räikkönen McLaren 1:26.797
2 G. Fisichella Renault 1:27.039
3 F. Alonso Renault 1:27.050
4 JP. Montoya McLaren 1:27.352
5 J. Trulli Toyota 1:27.501
6 N. Heidfeld Williams 1:27.929
7 M. Webber Williams 1:27.944
8 F. Massa Sauber 1:28.419
9 R. Schumacher Toyota 1:28.594
10 C. Klien Red Bull 1:28.963
11 R. Barrichello Ferrari 1:29.369
12 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:29.764
13 J. Button BAR 1:30.063
14 T. Sato BAR 1:30.175
15 T. Monteiro Jordan 1:30.710
16 C. Albers Minardi 1:32.186
17 R. Doornbos Minardi no time
18 J. Villeneuve Sauber no time
19 N. Karthikeyan Jordan no time
20 M. Schumacher Ferrari no time



New venue, new track, but the same old story Michael Spinmacher did what he does best at new circuits again Another BIG SPIN

He has done it in Shanghai last year and now repeated his spinning act again in Istanbul

Forza Spinmacher

Saturday wrap-up: McLaren & Renault

McLaren & Renault review Saturday's qualifying for the Turkish GP...
McLaren
Kimi Raikkonen 1st: I'm pleased to claim the first pole position for Formula 1 in Turkey. The lap was good but not perfect, and I lost a little bit of time in the last sector, but I knew I had some time in hand. We had made some changes to the car overnight and everything worked really well during practice this morning, so we knew we would have a strong chance for pole if everything went well. The circuit is great – it's so different from many of the others – especially with the ups and downs. It will be a tough race tomorrow, but I am really looking forward to it. We have a lot to fight for and hopefully we will be able to get the results we need and also put on a good show for the many Turkish spectators who will experience Formula 1 live for the first time

Juan Pablo Montoya 4th: My qualifying lap was OK, but I know my time would have been so much better if I had done it later in the session. The car is working well and I have been strong in all sessions so far this weekend. The track is great and good fun to drive particularly when you have a competitive package and everything just comes together. There is no reason why I can't be strong in the race

Renault
Giancarlo Fisichella 2nd: It is great to be on the front row for tomorrow’s race. We have worked hard this weekend to get a good set-up on the car, and the team has done a great job, which you can see from the grid positions. The only problem with my lap was when I came up on Barrichello at the end – we were very close through turns 12 and 13, and it disrupted my concentration, costing me a couple of tenths. Everything else went well though, so I am very positive for tomorrow.

Fernando Alonso 3rd: The conditions were much windier this afternoon than we had in practice, and we saw that it was a difficult qualifying session for all the drivers as lots of people went off. In that situation, you have to take the gamble of either taking some risks, or being conservative: I pushed hard and came through OK, so it is great to be third, on the clean side of the grid. The wind actually surprised me a little bit down the back straight – it was a strong tailwind, and I braked at my normal point but missed the apex, which cost me some time. We have both cars in the top three and I will go into the race with the aim of trying to beat Kimi.


Wrap-up for the top 4 cars on the grid So why bother reading other wrap-ups for the other teams now

Monty qualified 4th despite being out in the qualifying session early McLaren are looking strong all weekend and it could well be a McLaren 1-2 tomorrow

kimi should walke away with this race, motoya will be second, as long as their mclarens don't disentegrate, alonso will probably beat ou fisichella for fourth.

ferrari did not have such a great day, barrichello, nearly 3 seconds off the lead, and schumi span off whilst looking good for a top 6 quali spot, hopefully they'll provide some enternaitment through the race.

as for the new race track, turn 8 is amazing, its up there with eau rouge, bracketts and all the other great corners on the other f1 circuits. i'm looking forward to a great race tomorrow.