All posts re: the Italian Football Scandal (Moggipoli)

Originally Posted by Egoistka

Jeasus Christ!!! Is Galliani an IDIOT? How much more money does he need to feel happy???? Its all about money, isnt it? If he had a deal with Moggi about Juve 1st and Milan 2d he got himself something out of that..couple of millions...or more? Idiot! Such a good team as Milan deserved f*cking first place!b If it appears to be truth, I might kill him..really!

i think you are overreacting big time on this one.
Franco just pointed it out as "logical proof" that Milan wasn't part of moggipoli becuase it simply makes no sense given the little we've won over the past decade in Serie A.

So many times in Football and in other scenarios, the easier option is taken and justice is not correctly served. Hopefully the Italian F.A. will have the courage to do what is right.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

i think you are overreacting big time on this one.
Franco just pointed it out as "logical proof" that Milan wasn't part of moggipoli becuase it simply makes no sense given the little we've won over the past decade in Serie A.

As I said it can be a question of money....big money...and if it is so - he is bastard! Hope it s not going to appear true...

Well if they(Juve) go down to Serie B they can take their scudetti with them. I wouldnt want any of it. It's like being offered gum someone already had a chew at.
Nor would I want any of their players who will get a free leave. That'll make us no better than swines and dogs who go after the slop and filthy scraps. We're Milan not dogs and to be deemed as Milan we should not get anything titles or players that will attach us to that club.

Kui, you seriously wouldn't want Buffon or Zambrotta for free if the situation arose ?

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

Kui, you seriously wouldn't want Buffon or Zambrotta for free if the situation arose ?

No. I dont revel in others downfall. Listen for us to take the high road on this we need to stay well the hecka far away from anything Juve. These guys are off to England or some team in Spain for all I could care. Yeah... lets sign a keeper with a taint at gambling on games. That's the kind of player we would love to have .

Source Football Italia

Luciano Moggi, the man at the centre of the Calciopoli scandal, has rejected an invitation to be questioned.

Francesco Saverio Borrelli, the judge leading the investigation, had asked Moggi to meet with him on Monday. However, the former Juventus director general's lawyer revealed: "Following the call for Luciano to appear before the Football Federation investigation, we point out that, in light of his resignation, he is outside the world of football. For these reasons he will not be present at the hearings currently underway."

The judge is expected to reach a verdict within the next month, and he has recently finished questioning former FIGC chief Franco Carraro. He has spent the past fortnight or so speaking to the various figures involved, and he is not surprised by Moggi's refusal to meet with him. "It is his right to not present himself," Borrelli stated. "What could he have offered? Only his interpretation of things."

He Cant Be helping Juve now he has done this. Can he?.

Nope, but it may very well be that Juve and Moggi are beyond help, and indeed, he would only be likely to hurt his and Juve´s cause, rather than help it, by allowing himself to be questioned.

I mean really, what do we expect him to do? Confess?

What about giving people second chances ? I would have thought Kui that with your high sense of morality that you'd be open to giving people a chance to redeem their mistakes. I guess not.

I also don't see it as revelling in the downfall of others by taking 1 or 2 of their players. It's not like the Milan management would be on camera laughing and slating Juventus or publicly humiliating them.

Considering that we gave them Abbiati when they ran out of keepers, I don't think that this would be revelling in their downfall. Milan is simply too classy to do that. And if Buffon and Zambrotta want to leave anyway, then what's the problem?

Originally Posted by Kui

No. I dont revel in others downfall. Listen for us to take the high road on this we need to stay well the hecka far away from anything Juve. These guys are off to England or some team in Spain for all I could care. Yeah... lets sign a keeper with a taint at gambling on games. That's the kind of player we would love to have .

So we let our domestic and European rivals strengthen themselves but we don't cos of some stupid principles....I don't understand this logic

Noone will ask us what do we want or don't want, but they'll do what they need is best for their careers !
And when Italian players in Juve are concerned, i believe that Italian clubs will be their destination ( if Juve goes down, which is highly possibile at the moment).
So, what we have is Buffon,Zambrotta,Camoranesi,Cannavaro,Del Piero,Chiellini,Marchioni, C.Zanetti, Blasi and few others !

Del Piero, Zanetti, Marchioni and Cannavaro said that they will not leave Juve if the team goes in B.
Even if this is true, it still leaves Buffon,Zambrotta,Camoranesi,Chiellini and Blasi.

As isaid in other topic here, i believe that Buffon in Milan is a done deal, and it was done since last August when Abbiati came in Juve.
Chiellini and Blasi will hardly find a place in the best clubs, so they might go to some minors, while Zambrotta and Camo are the only 2 stars left.
If they must stay in Italy, then i would chose Milan or Roma, since this are the only places where their career won't go downhill, but honestly , i don't know where they might end up !
I don't think they'll go abroad, since we all know that Italians are not keen on leaving their country !

About the others: Zlatan and Emerson will most probably go where Capello goes. Trez ( my favorite together with Nedved) will most probably go in England, Nedved might finish his carrer or try himself in Monaco with Koller. Thuram - too old for a big club, although Wenger wants him, and there is a huge interest for Vieira coming from England. Mutu even said he will play a season in Romania until Juve comes back ( i doubt this) and that's about everything.

I don't see anything wrong if Milan buys Juve players Kui. I don't think that Milan will be anyhow conected with Calciopoli, only because Zambrotta signed for your club.

And little sarcasm at the end: If you want to win anything finally, maybe buying Juventus' players is the best thing to do !

Eh, it hurts to write something like this, planning where will the players you love go after the team you love falls, but i wish as much of them to go in 1 or 2 clubs, so i will have some team to simpathize, while my team is beating the hell out of Fidelis Andria

Good luck !!!

Originally Posted by Tony 29

And little sarcasm at the end: If you want to win anything finally, maybe buying Juventus' players is the best thing to do !

A little more sarcasm: How come? it's not like Juve players have won anything with honest hard work. if Milan's and Juve's philosophies of winning coincided, then we could just buy us some refs, why care about players at all?

Originally Posted by zlatanov

A little more sarcasm: How come? it's not like Juve players have won anything with honest hard work. if Milan's and Juve's philosophies of winning coincided, then we could just buy us some refs, why care about players at all?

I knew it
from whole god damned post, you had to quote this part
It was a joke !
Milan can easily win even without Juve players ....if Juve's not around
kidding again, don't kill me !

I'm trying my new signature right now, i will kill myself if it won't work !!!

Originally Posted by zlatanov

. if Milan's and Juve's philosophies of winning coincided, then we could just buy us some refs, why care about players at all?

If we take what Moggi was doing as a fact, and that it was Juve's philosophy of winning, then what was Milan's philosophy ?

Hello, Meani on the phone, send me these refs on Sunday !
This ?

Don't give me Moggi's dirty work. He was doing it, and more than everybody else. Juve is dirty because of Moggi, but i will never be convinced that Milan was clean, especially not after "send me these refs" thing !
It can't be more clear, and if i was on your place, i would keep quiet about the whole scandal, knowing that my team isn't clean also, i would be happy because my team got away with it, and be more happy because the best are down, and now we will be the best finally !