Summer mercato 2009

Originally Posted by Rossoneri Fuego

nicklas would be 10x cheaper and easier to discipline

come on listen arsenal did knock us out 2 yrs ago but

the fact is they are better than us now they were 2 wins away

from winning europe, dzeko had 1 good year it's not like he's gona

repeat the year he had or what about europe? dont get excited over

1 good year look at adebayor a yr ago he had gols like drogba this year

he dissapeard dont believe the hype

Arsenal is crap and they finished 4th in two last years. AND EVEN despite that, Bendtner is a crap amongst Arsenal players.

Come on, it's like said "Inter beat us four times to scudetto, so let's buy Julio Cruz".

Originally Posted by Rossoneri Fuego

thats perfect i always wonderd what about bendtnr

hes a 6'3"-6"2 " CF whose only like 22 or 23? he's like dzeko

and im sorry i trust bendtnr more than dzeko EPL you have

to make decisions 10x more faster than the bundesliga he would

not start as much because adebayor if you guys believe this guy

is trash your all idiots because pato and the team WE ALREADY HAVE

would make nicklas the next real sheva or next young luca toni

can you please stop writing everything in bold and leave the 'Enters' out between the lines and make sentences with . and , ! Its really annoying and difficult to read!!


And your points about getting bendter dont make sense. Dzeko is a much better player bendter is and it has nothing to do with our loss against arsenal.

BTW it looks like juve is getting Caceres! VERY talented defender if you ask me, he still has a lot to learn but he could be the future replacement of cannavaro.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Yeah, it's a deal fans from both clubs would hate.

On one side you have two players who missed huge part of the last season due to serious injuries so neither Juve nor Milan can feel safe.

Trezeguet is of course the better attacker of the two, but with one injury in every 2 and a half years ratio and soon to be 32 he's a huge risk for Milan. Then his huge salary must not be ignored. He's paid 4,5 mil in Juventus and being concidered a world class striker he won't accept anything less for that.
These are the negative aspects looking from Milan's side. Also, Borriello offers something else than Trez in terms of team play. Trezeguet, more often than not, is not useful at all without any service. Borriello can do things by himself, can open spaces and is better suited for faster pace.

From Juve's fan perspective, Trezeguet is a legend while Borriello is a one season wonder, who even in that particular season scored less goals than Trezeguet. Missed last year with a serious injury, was never any good apart from his season in Genoa, and was even banned from playing football 3 seasons ago. With healthy Trezeguet Juve can be sure of scoring many goals, while healthy Borriello does not guarantee that. Juve don't have a pure striker apart from Trezeguet. Milan already have Inzaghi.

There is a positive side of course. If Trez stays healthy Milan will get a goal machine.
Juve on the other hand will get rid of Trezeguet's huge salary and in Borriello they will get a player ready to sit on the bench instead of creating problems when he won't start the matches.

As you can see, there are positive and negative sides to this deal, but the negative overshadow the positive.

Tony29--good to see you here.

I think the Trez deal would be awesome! I wouldn't call him injury prone, just like Borriello isn't. These were exceptions to their careers. Owen is injury prone. Nesta is also.

For the current situation, Trez would be awesome. IMO, a trident of Dinho-Trez-Pato is phenomenal. Let's see what happens. We don't have money apparently, so let's make do.

Originally Posted by Luca03

Trezeguet is 31? And a scoring beast.
Inzaghi is 35 and a goal scoring beast still.

I'm not saying Trezeguet and Inzaghi are twins but, there is hope. I guess?

Trezeguet knows Serie A, not injury-prone, expirienced, and can give maybe another year or two.

Dzeko next year, and maybe Trezeguet will score and keep Milan comfortable for the year.

Thats being positive.

BUT, Berlusconi and Galliani still must purchase us Hernanes and a Full Back.

LOL, are you serious?

Originally Posted by Stitch

LOL, are you serious?

Yes.

You know why? Because the record says so. In 2005/06 he appeared 32 times. In 2006/07 he appeared 31 times. In 2007/08 he appeared 36 times.

One season does not make someone injury prone.

Not a record of someone who is injury prone. The above doesn't even take into account his European appearances.

trezeguet would be great amauri and iquinta were infront of em all season long

so that means hes fresh and ready for battle remember guys zigoni has to be

given a chance he will be in the 1st team next year he WILL PLAY GAMES

and filipez 182 it's not my problem you have difficulties reading english i know

in belgium you have 3 diffrent official languages french,german,dutch so any other

language is difficult no duh

Originally Posted by Hasan Rossonero

Yes.

You know why? Because the record says so. In 2005/06 he appeared 32 times. In 2006/07 he appeared 31 times. In 2007/08 he appeared 36 times.

One season does not make someone injury prone.

Not a record of someone who is injury prone. The above doesn't even take into account his European appearances.

Actually, he has the knee problem for a while Hasan. He had problems with his knee in 2002/03 and 2004/05. In both seasons he missed more than a half of the season.
Then he managed to play 3 full seasons but after season 2007/08 it was clear that he can't do it and he needs an operation. The operation should have been performed during the summer but Trezeguet insisted to go on. Then he made it even worse and he injured his knee in September 2008 for the third time.
His was out for 6 months and when he returned Ranieri decided not to start him.

To add to this, he also has problems with his other knee. It's not as serious, but from time to time he's missing matches due to that problem on the other knee.

But a healthy Trezeguet will be well worth for Milan. He was never someone who relied on his speed and work rate so age should not be a problem at all. Just like Inzaghi. The only age related problem might be that by getting older his body will be even less resitant to injuries.

For Juve though, there aren't many positives, except from the economic ones. Borriello is a player who can offer different things than Trez, but Juve already have Amauri and Iaquinta to do that. What Juve need is a Trez or Pippo type of player.
But this might be the last chance to get something out of him. The risk of another injury is big, his salary is huge, he's not accepting the bench. A businessman would sell Trezeguet this summer.
The fans though will never accept Trez to be sold, and even less, to be exchanged with Borriello.
Noone is asking the fans though

sorry, hasan, if you are going to pick his good years in terms of injury, everybody can me "not injury prone". Let's take a look at his appearances three years before that - 02/03-17, 03/04-25, 04/05-18. Not exactly the number of a healthy player.

plus, you are overlooking the importance of the last year - he appeared in only 4 games - and he's almost 32 - his body can't recover all that well anymore.

Intervistato telefonicamente dall'emittente lombarda Telelombardia, Irfan Redzepagic, agente di Edin Dzeko, non avrebbe escluso una nuova trattativa con la società rossonera. "Non escludo che il Wolfsburg non liberi Dzeko, in caso di arrivo di Nilmar. Tutto dipende dall'allenatore, Armin Veh, e dalla sua velocità nel cambiare opinione. In relazione alla situazione che si crea, noi siamo comunque pronti a risederci ad un tavolo per trattare".

http://www.milannews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=9735

Dzeko's agent says that it is not impossible that Wolfsburg won't sell him, if Nilmar arrives. It all depends on Veh.

But, Wolfsburg have said it before that Dzeko will stay with them and along with that they are looking for a first team striker. At that time they were looking at Bojinov, Crouch etc.)

So don't get your hopes too high.

No I am not overlooking the last year, during which he appeared only four times, but that shouldn't label him as an injury prone player.

So let's look at 2002/03 he appeared 27 times in all competitions. In 2003/04 he appeared 30 times in all competitions. In 2004/05 he appeared 23 times.

His record during those years is impressive too, far more impressive than Fabiano.

I think when people want to get rid of a player or when he is on the verge of leaving, we tend to justify it to ourselves. We did it with Kaka'. Of course, these justifications have an element of truth to them, but often leave out parts of the story that would make us uncomfortable.

Also, if during all those other years Trez was having problems with his knee, then he appeared more times than players who do not have any chronic problems, but pick up annoying injuries here and there.

I think Trez would give us precious options. It would mean we could rotate Borriello, Inzaghi, and Trez. Mark my words, if Trez comes he will score goals by the hatful.

Originally Posted by Rossoneri Fuego

trezeguet would be great amauri and iquinta were infront of em all season long

so that means hes fresh and ready for battle remember guys zigoni has to be

given a chance he will be in the 1st team next year he WILL PLAY GAMES

and filipez 182 it's not my problem you have difficulties reading english i know

in belgium you have 3 diffrent official languages french,german,dutch so any other

language is difficult no duh

wow its great to have such a friendly and understanding member here on the forum.
I asked you in a nice and friendly way... how old are you dude? doesnt matter, dont answer, as you get blocked anyway. I hate people who act like idiots.

Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

BTW it looks like juve is getting Caceres! VERY talented defender if you ask me, he still has a lot to learn but he could be the future replacement of cannavaro.

Whenever I watched this guy, I got this feeling that he was on the verge of getting a red card. Probably its just me who thinks that way.

Originally Posted by vivardo

Whenever I watched this guy, I got this feeling that he was on the verge of getting a red card. Probably its just me who thinks that way.

he did had a bad season last year. but he for sure has loads of talent and he's only 22 so he'll learn. Also Flamini in the beginning (at milan) always looked like he could get a red card.

Originally Posted by Filipéz 182

he did had a bad season last year. but he for sure has loads of talent and he's only 22 so he'll learn. Also Flamini in the beginning (at milan) always looked like he could get a red card.

I agree with the Flamini part. I really do not know much about Cacares anyway. IMO the center backs should be the most disciplined of the bunch, like Maldini or Nesta for example