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Old 28-06-2005, 09:51   #856

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Milan, spunta Van Nistelrooy
Ci sarebbe accordo con il giocatore

Con l'affare Gilardino in piena situazione di stallo, il mercato del Milan potrebbe riservare una grossa sorpresa. Il club rossonero sarebbe infatti sul centravanti del Manchester United Ruud Van Nistelrooy con il quale avrebbe già raggiunto un accordo sulla parola. Alex Ferguson chiede 15 milioni di euro per l'olandese ma il costo potrebbe essere abbassato inserendo Jon Dahl Tomasson nella trattativa.

Dell'ipotesi Van Nistelrooy si era già parlato qualche tempo fa, quando i rapporti tra il giocatore olandese e il club inglese erano apparsi sempre più deteriorati. Messa in un cantuccio di fronte alla prima scelta Gilardino, ora pare essere tornata d'attualità. Sarebbero stati proprio i rappresentati del giocatore a venire a Milano ad offrire il loro assistito al club rossonero che si è mostrato molto interessato stabilendo una sorta di gentleman agreement. Il problema è sicuramente rappresentato dal costo del cartellino che, paradossalmente, è comunque più abbordabile di quello di Gilardino. Sono infatti 15 i milioni di euro richiesti, ma su questo piano ci potrebbe essere una strada d'accordo: Alex Ferguson si sarebbe infatti detto soddisfatto di avere con se Jon Dahl Tomasson, il cui cartellino verrebbe valutato attorno ai 10 milioni di euro. Alla fine quindi Van Nistelrooy potrebbe costare al Milan soltanto 5 milioni, un vero prezzo da saldo. In alternativa bisognerebbe cercare di cedere il danese a un'altra squadra per recuperare una parte di soldi per coprire le richeste degli inglesi. Perché il Manchester decida però di lasciar partire l'olandese senza troppi problemi è fondamentale che vada a buon fine la trattativa per portare Owen alla corte dei Red Devils.

Pare invece farsi sempre più complicata la strada per tenere Hernan Crespo in rossonero. I due club avrebbero riaperto i colloqui per il trasferimento a Londra di Kaladze ma, perso Kezman, passato all'Atletico Madrid, il Chelsea si trova ora con una preoccupante penuria di punte, e potrebbe quindi decidere di tenere l'argentino per una questione di necessità. In ogni caso il mercato del Milan appare in questo momento molto fluido e aperto a qualsiasi soluzione.

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Milan, dulls Van Nistelrooy would be agreement with the player With the Gilardino transaction in full situation of stall, the market del Milan could reserve one large surprise. The rossonero club would be in fact on the centravanti of the Manchester United Ruud Van Nistelrooy with which it would have already caught up an agreement on one's word. Alex Ferguson asks 15 million euro for the Dutch but the cost could be lowered inserting Jon Dahl Tomasson in the negotiation. Tomasson (Grace Black) Of the hypothesis Van Nistelrooy already some time had been spoken ago, when the relationships between the Dutch player and the English club were appeared more and more deteriotate to you. Putting in a corner of forehead to first chosen Gilardino, hour seems to be returned of the present time. They would have been just represents to you of the player to come to Milan to offer theirs assisted to the rossonero club that has shown a lot interested establishing one risen of gentleman agreement. The problem sure is represented from the cost of the cartellino that, paradoxicalally, it is however more approachable than that one than Gilardino. The million euro demands are in fact 15, but on this plan us agreement road could be one: Alex Ferguson in fact would have said satisfied of having with if Jon Dahl Tomasson, whose cartellino it would come estimated around 10 million euro. To the fine therefore Van Nistelrooy it could cost to Milan only 5 million, a true price from balance. In alternative it would have to try to yield the Danish to an other square in order to recover a part of moneies in order to cover the richeste of English. Because the Manchester decides but to leave to leave the Dutch without too many problems is fundamental that the negotia
tion goes to good aim in order to carry Owen to the court of the Red Devils. He seems instead makes yourself complicated the road more and more in order to hold Hernan Crespo in rossonero. The two clubs would have reopened the talks for the transfer to London di Kaladze but, lost Kezman, passed to the Athletic Madrid, the Chelsea finds hour with one worrisome shortage of tips, and could therefore decide to hold the Argentine for one necessity issue. In any case the market of the Milan appears in this moment much opened fluid and to whichever solution.
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I guess, it would be a good decision by Milan......if they turned to RvN
only if Milan offered 5 Mil Euro plus JDT.....
Gila will come in January i suppose.....
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Old 28-06-2005, 11:47   #857

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God I hope RVN does not come...
I just want Gila, and then Milan can do whatever they want for the rest of the summer.

Regardless, this seems like a rumour...I have not read it anywhere else.
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Old 28-06-2005, 13:00   #858

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Now u have read it somewhere else,Here it is:

Rossoneri turn to Ruud Tuesday 28 June, 2005

With Alberto Gilardino’s price-tag still too expensive, Milan have reportedly turned their attention towards Ruud van Nistelrooy.

There are claims that the Dutchman has already given his verbal consent to the move after a disappointing and injury-ravaged campaign at Old Trafford.

Sir Alex Ferguson would allegedly be willing to part with van Nistelrooy for £10m, though that figure could be lowered by the inclusion of Jon Dahl Tomasson (pictured) as part of the deal.

Italian newspapers suggest that the former PSV Eindhoven hitman’s agents travelled to Milan in order to propose the switch and the Rossoneri are content with the financial package – considerably smoother than the £25m Parma have requested for Gilardino.

A new striker is needed at the San Siro, as Hernan Crespo is increasingly unlikely to extend his Serie A stay. Chelsea are finding it difficult to sign a replacement for the Argentine and are selling Mateja Kezman to Atletico Madrid.

“I am not relaxed at all,” revealed Crespo in the ‘Gazzetta dello Sport’. “I am trying not to think about it and wait to see what happens. I want to talk to Chelsea over the next few days, but my agent has told me to stay calm and is trying to set up a meeting.
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This seems to be true,what do u guys think of this?But i would personally prefer Gilardino over Ruud, but Vanistelrooy wont be a bad choice.Just look at his records.

Source:http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/jun28i.html
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Old 28-06-2005, 13:33   #859

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£10m, Ha! There's no chance Alec will let go of his prised striker that he rates as the best in Europe, let alone for £10m. Merely paper talk / diversion imho.
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Old 28-06-2005, 13:44   #860

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£10m, Ha! There's no chance Alec will let go of his prised striker that he rates as the best in Europe, let alone for £10m. Merely paper talk / diversion imho.
I agree with snapster and i also hope to god its not true, he's injury prone and can't score from more than 6 yards out either he has an impressive champs league record but only against minor teams (as utd always seem to get them, and up against a decent side they go out of europe) and most of his goals come from penalties, (12 in 1 league season if i remember right)
Milan are gonna lose out on gilla and thats gonna be a massive blow,
What the fu8k are the board doing why are they messing about, Gilla's not just an awesome buy he's an investment too, they sign him for 25 million now and in 2 years he'll be worth 50 or 60 maybe even more with the way football is going, i feel they keep all the money Milan earn to live the rich life for themselves, Inter never win anything but always have the money to spend, luckily up to now Milan haven't needed to be too extravagent in there spending but i think this time they will be making a big mistake if they don't splash out the cash, the simple fact is that Milan are an ageing side and need to buy proven younsters, there's no time to wait a few years for youth from the ranks. SIGN GILLARDINO YOU SH1T BAGS OR SELL THE CLUB TO SOME 1 WHO WILL AND SOME 1 WHO WILL SPEND SOME CASH

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Old 28-06-2005, 15:42   #861

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£10m, Ha! There's no chance Alec will let go of his prised striker that he rates as the best in Europe, let alone for £10m. Merely paper talk / diversion imho.
Indeed, I guess journalists take drugs and make up stories during silly season
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Old 28-06-2005, 15:42   #862

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I agree with snapster and i also hope to god its not true, he's injury prone and can't score from more than 6 yards out either he has an impressive champs league record but only against minor teams (as utd always seem to get them, and up against a decent side they go out of europe) and most of his goals come from penalties, (12 in 1 league season if i remember right)
Milan are gonna lose out on gilla and thats gonna be a massive blow,
What the fu8k are the board doing why are they messing about, Gilla's not just an awesome buy he's an investment too, they sign him for 25 million now and in 2 years he'll be worth 50 or 60 maybe even more with the way football is going, i feel they keep all the money Milan earn to live the rich life for themselves, Inter never win anything but always have the money to spend, luckily up to now Milan haven't needed to be too extravagent in there spending but i think this time they will be making a big mistake if they don't splash out the cash, the simple fact is that Milan are an ageing side and need to buy proven younsters, there's no time to wait a few years for youth from the ranks. SIGN GILLARDINO YOU SH1T BAGS OR SELL THE CLUB TO SOME 1 WHO WILL AND SOME 1 WHO WILL SPEND SOME CASH
well said we need to buy some players if we want to win europe one player could help us one more step in europe and we will win it
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Old 28-06-2005, 16:18   #863

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Calm down pirlo2004....really now, lets take a deep breath, hold, then exhale, and lets look at these points:


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Milan are gonna lose out on gilla and thats gonna be a massive blow,
1. How can you be so sure? Think positively, the negotiations are ongoing, and should be final by July 14, when Milan hope to conclude their transfer season.

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What the fu8k are the board doing why are they messing about, Gilla's not just an awesome buy he's an investment too, they sign him for 25 million now and in 2 years he'll be worth 50 or 60 maybe even more with the way football is going,
2. Trust me, I do not believe for a minute that they are messing about, and because we are not a "selling" club, it doesnt matter how much he will be worth in the future, as if he proves as much of an asset to the club as Sheva has, then he will never be sold...look at Weah...he could have been sold, but was allowed to leave on a free, so as to command higher wages at his new club...

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i feel they keep all the money Milan earn to live the rich life for themselves,,
3. Now that is a conspiracy theory if ever I heard one...please try to remember that the owner of the club, is also one of its biggest fans, he may be egotistical, but who wouldnt be with all his money? And to let you know, Milan has not, as a club, made a profit for years, and every year, Berlu makes up the difference from...you guessed it, his pocket. Think on this. Long and hard my friend...All of Milan´s recent major transfers have come from his wallet, not from the club´s income. Think Van Basten, Gullit, Sheva, Rui Costa, Inzahgi...and thank Berlu, dont curse him..after all, its his money, not ours, not yours.

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Inter never win anything but always have the money to spend, luckily up to now Milan haven't needed to be too extravagent in there spending but i think this time they will be making a big mistake if they don't splash out the cash, the simple fact is that Milan are an ageing side and need to buy proven younsters, there's no time to wait a few years for youth from the ranks. SIGN GILLARDINO YOU SH1T BAGS OR SELL THE CLUB TO SOME 1 WHO WILL AND SOME 1 WHO WILL SPEND SOME CASH
Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. I would rather Berlu than Mr "Change-a-Coach" Moratti anyday. Or would you want a Glaizer type..who dont know diddly about football, but want a shiny new toy for their sons to play with?...

If we can do the deal, it will be done, and dont count out player power.
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Old 28-06-2005, 23:24   #865

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warro banton, im just curious, you said that milan will conclude their transfer season by july 14... where did you get this info from? is the source reliable?

Braida has quoted today that they are working very hard to do a major signing.. its on acmilan.com
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Old 29-06-2005, 02:58   #866

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You make some good points warro my son, of course you do your a Milan fan and we know our sh1t but back home away from seri A i'm a Leeds fan and i know what a chairman and so called life long fan of a club can do with greed,
You mentioned all the players Belu had bought but over the span of what 8 -10 years its not really spending for a club that earns as much as milan, and like i said in my post its good they haven't always had to but every now and then it needs to be done and i think this is 1 of them occasions and how are you so sure about the Gilla deal and the date you say, Belu already said he's not going to pay the 25 millon asking price and now Parma have been taken over i can only see that price tag going up

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Old 29-06-2005, 05:18   #867

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i'm a Leeds fan and i know what a chairman and so called life long fan of a club can do with greed,
You mentioned all the players Belu had bought but over the span of what 8 -10 years its not really spending for a club that earns as much as milan, and like i said in my post its good they haven't always had to but every now and then it needs to be done and i think this is 1 of them occasions and how are you so sure about the Gilla deal and the date you say, Belu already said he's not going to pay the 25 millon asking price and now Parma have been taken over i can only see that price tag going up
Your way off. Milan could NOT have spent as much as we done without a rich owner that where prepared to pay. If you don't know it we have been working on a deficit that Berlusconi have payed up for several years in a row now. so saying that we don't really spend much is ridicoulus and stupid.

also, a point of advice, don't take to much heed into what they say when it comes to this. I would suggest you read a bit about the Nesta transfer for instance. they deny deny, say we won't buy any players, say we can't afford any players and so on. that is how it works and how they work. That is why I was very suspicious when Berlu junior said that Gilardino WOULD come, that is only sound business if everything is sealed and signed.
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Old 29-06-2005, 08:31   #868

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Totally agree with Kris... That is the normal mind games being played during the transfer period...
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If we miss on gila and get ruud we really ****ed up!! I mean, really.... Juve just signed maresca,miccoli,obodo and chiellini all of them for less than 5 mil!! How can it happen, now they have players to work with on the market! We have to do the same and not just rely on cash!! It seems like they are gonna buy 40% of robinho and bring him in in 2008 when del piero's contract expires! Galliani....do something smart about Gila, and pay the 20-25 mil for the love of god!! And sell some!! It realy goes on my nervs...
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Totally agree with Kris... That is the normal mind games being played during the transfer period...
which is fair enough but with Chelsea and all there money involved you can't be so cocky, don't get me wrong i hope your right but why take the chance????
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